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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 12:23:17 PM   
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Texas is different, the first big industry in the state was cattle.

oh... so you are saying they should have this bull run go down main street in some Texas city then???

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 12:36:44 PM   
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Inspired by Pamplona, Great Bull Run coming to US; organizers say events will be safe


Making it "safe" would kind of defeat the whole purpose.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 12:40:38 PM   
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oh... so you are saying they should have this bull run go down main street in some Texas city then??


Last time I was in Texas there was already enough bull running down the main streets. And all the other streets.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 12:47:47 PM   
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Texas is different, the first big industry in the state was cattle.

oh... so you are saying they should have this bull run go down main street in some Texas city then???



I say if they are going to do this, they should have it in the streets, not in some fenced arena. I mean forget the Americanization of the event unless you are going to limit the participants to career politicians, and replace the bulls with hungry cougars....

Is feeding politicians to hungry cougars animal abuse?

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 12:57:07 PM   
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Is feeding politicians to hungry cougars animal abuse?

I would be surprised if the hungry cougars would go near them.. animals have better senses than us humans...

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 1:57:13 PM   
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I'm with Aynne on this one. To put a bull into a human arena (in this case the streets) and have it fear for its life is nothing but cruel. Its done for adult entertainment and its pathetic. Bulls are animals of fight or flight instinct, so when cornered will fight to the death if necessary.

Bull runs in Spain are a common event every year and every year people get seriously hurt and killed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ko9jOYiNf4

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 2:19:04 PM   
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A public street isn't the right place. I thought about the HITS circuit but their fences aren't meant for cattle.

The only places I can think of are DFW where the AQHA World is held, OK City where AQHYA World is held and Columbus, OH where they hold the quarterhorse Congress.

There are penning areas on both ends of the arenas. Pens that do hold cattle for working cattle classes. You could easily enough put fences up in the arena to keep the cattle going straight.

Plus an added benefit for Columbus is that it's one of the most depressed cities I've ever been to. It could do with the money.


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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 2:31:39 PM   
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A public street isn't the right place. I thought about the HITS circuit but their fences aren't meant for cattle.

The only places I can think of are DFW where the AQHA World is held, OK City where AQHYA World is held and Columbus, OH where they hold the quarterhorse Congress.

There are penning areas on both ends of the arenas. Pens that do hold cattle for working cattle classes. You could easily enough put fences up in the arena to keep the cattle going straight.

Plus an added benefit for Columbus is that it's one of the most depressed cities I've ever been to. It could do with the money.




Des, I respect your reasoning and logic. but as has been pointed out, the techniques to get them running is cruel, now if we are going to use your ideas for venues, then it has to be cougars with politicians doing the running.

Now, if they really want to Americanize it, they should forget the bulls (introduced species) and use buffalo.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 2:40:54 PM   
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Cattle stampede during storms, don't they? God knows the speakers in OK and Columbus would have no trouble emitting a loud crack of thunder. Since my daughter only exhibited as a youth, I can't speak for World for Adults or Select.

But mountain lions are in short supply, and you can't use an endangered or threatened species.

How about outrunning coyote? And then the people would have to wear roadrunner costumes. And all vendors would be labeled Acme.

I'd be glad to donate the coyote that started singing a couple of weeks ago and kept it up for hours. Yip, yip, yip.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 6:15:16 PM   
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All I know about bulls is if you tenderize the meat, correctly, they taste pretty good with some bar-b-cue sauce and mashed taters.



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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 8:03:43 PM   
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boo...
Thats what I like about you Aynne...
You have convictions and stand firm in them...Thats what people of integrity...do.

Chew em up and spit em out!!!

Peace to you and yours...

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/4/2013 8:23:58 PM   
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FR......Stupid people and stupid ideas just to amuse themselves with animals who have no freakin choice in the madness.
Idiocy doesn't need much of a push, Stupidity and wilful ignorance should be PAINFUL



I am thinking in this case the stupidity not only could be painful, it might even be deadly if the runners don't run fast enough. Though I doubt I will spend an energy feeling sorry for anyone who gets caught in the path of one of the bulls. I will feel bad for the bulls however.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/16/2013 7:47:19 PM   
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boo...
Thats what I like about you Aynne...
You have convictions and stand firm in them...Thats what people of integrity...do.

Chew em up and spit em out!!!

Peace to you and yours...



Thanks so much sometimes being in the AR world is draining I appreciate the support here from you and the others that understood me xoxoxo huge love!

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/16/2013 7:50:29 PM   
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All I know about bulls is if you tenderize the meat, correctly, they taste pretty good with some bar-b-cue sauce and mashed taters.



Peace,



Graham Kerr




Why not eat them as a real carnivore does? raw and cold off the bone? Oh wait.....cos we aren't carnivores. duh. You know those pissant things you call canine teeth couldn't even begin to do that right? What you like is the flavor of the fire, the seasoning the sauces, not the decomposing carcass that begins to rot the minute its dead. Peace? Hardly.

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/16/2013 7:52:07 PM   
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Is feeding politicians to hungry cougars animal abuse?

I would be surprised if the hungry cougars would go near them.. animals have better senses than us humans...

And if they did the SPCA might intervene (poisoning)

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RE: Leave it to the Americans - 8/16/2013 7:53:41 PM   
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