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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 4:56:03 PM   
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Well, I think that those with nothing to hide have nothing to fear. Honest citizens will never object should anyone employed by the government in whatever way at all want to ram his or her fingers into any of his or her orifices for a vigorous rummaging around.

[That was irony, by the way. Just in case. Sometimes you can't tell with this board.]

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 4:57:53 PM   
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There are some days that I should be checked for hemroids. ^ LOL ya

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 5:06:03 PM   
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Staggering that this can happen, even in Texas.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 5:22:34 PM   
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I was just thinking: should we collect a list of names of people who say 'Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear' and forward it to Texas's Finest so members of that admirable organisation could pop round without delay to their houses for some hearty vaginal foraging and rectal rummaging?

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 5:28:17 PM   
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I was just thinking: should we collect a list of names of people who say 'Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear' and forward it to Texas's Finest so members of that admirable organisation could pop round without delay to their houses for some hearty vaginal foraging and rectal rummaging?



YES! Great idea!

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 5:38:07 PM   
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I was just thinking: should we collect a list of names of people who say 'Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear' and forward it to Texas's Finest so members of that admirable organisation could pop round without delay to their houses for some hearty vaginal foraging and rectal rummaging?

urethral tooo

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 5:57:01 PM   
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In one graphic video taken from a state trooper’s “dash cam” two women are probed in their vaginas and rectums by a female officer wearing gloves after a routine traffic stop near Dallas. Within a week a second video surfaced revealing a similar scenario during a traffic stop just outside Houston and with completely different Texas state troopers; there are at least five other reported incidents. In the first incident the women were pulled over for allegedly throwing a cigarette out of the window, and in the second two women were pulled over for allegedly speeding; all four women were subjected to body cavity searches by a female officer summoned to the scene by a male trooper. In the second video with clear audio, the women can be heard yelling as the female trooper shoves her gloved finger inside one woman, and in both rapes the female troopers did not change gloves between probes.

It is possible that the Texas troopers were devotees of the Republican belief that there is such a thing as “legitimate rape” and regarded rape under color of authority legal. Obviously if they were comfortable putting the sexual assaults on video, they truly believed they were well within their authority to summon and direct a female trooper to conduct the actual rape. For some reason, the culture of rape in America is much more prevalent than people living in a modern society want to believe, and there is a segment of the population (mostly men) who consider it their holy right to violate women. Last year when the Steubenville rape gang’s crimes were exposed a phalanx of men came to the rapists’ assistance to defend their actions and slander the victim; it is a common practice Republicans have spent the past two years encouraging.

Besides Republicans in Congress attempting to redefine rape as either legitimate or spurious, several Republican-controlled states have mandated medical professionals conduct “rape by medical instrument” or face the prospect of losing their license to practice as well as face possible jail time. In fact, Republicans have made inserting themselves into women’s vaginas their primary responsibility at the urging of the religious right, and it is all predicated on their belief that women are commanded by their deity to subject themselves to a man’s will. The deeply-held belief that women must subjugate themselves to men is part and parcel of the culture of rape a frightening number of men subscribe to, and is perpetuated by Republicans who could barely be bothered to pass the Violence Against Women Act while they promoted the vile concept of “legitimate rape.”

What is astonishing, and incomprehensible, is the number of women who vote for and support Republicans convinced their authority as men justifies mandating intrusion into a woman’s body as if it is their dog-given duty. One is hard-pressed to understand why any woman would support Republicans who regard women as livestock to be manipulated and abused, and it may be that they are so entrenched in the “women are subservient” mindset that they fail to see the atrocity of men violating women. It is also a mystery why any man would support and condone Republicans legislating that their wives, sisters, daughters, and mothers are free-game to other men, but it is possible they too are mesmerized by the thought that women exist as mere objects for men to abuse.



The incidents in Texas are not isolated and are rape under any interpretation of the law regardless it is during a traffic stop on a public highway, or in a doctor’s office to satisfy perverse Republicans and their evangelical support group. The culture of rape in America is but one expression of the ideology that men have a right to dominate women and it is high time that decent men stand up and fight alongside America’s women for their rights. Regardless it is the right to equal pay for equal work, equity in healthcare expense, or freedom to drive in Texas without fear of being raped by state troopers, the misogyny and culture of rape plaguing America must end


Republicans Seek to Decriminalize Rape and Other Crimes Against Women was written by Rmuse for PoliticusUSA.
© PoliticusUSA, Aug. 6th, 2013 — All Rights Reserved
America is home to a misogynistic sect that holds women in such low esteem that, despite making up over half the population, women are systematically treated as second-class citizens and complicit in their maltreatment are Republicans and evangelical Christians. Although women are subjected to institutionalized discrimination in the labor force, teaching, healthcare, and insurance industry, it is the nation’s love affair with the culture of rape that defines America’s hostility toward women. Rape culture is a concept which links rape and sexual violence to the ethos of a society in which prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone rape in all its forms. Since teabaggers helped Republicans take control of the House and several state legislatures, they have established themselves as the primary progenitors of America’s rape culture with their words and deeds.

For two-and-a-half years Republicans sought to assuage the crime of rape whether it was redefining it to prevent women from abortion services, claiming it is a blessing from a malevolent deity, or legislating medical instrument rape to teach women their place and dissuade them from choosing their own reproductive health. This week another form of rape was exposed and it is little surprise it occurred in Texas where Republicans have made it their business to insert themselves into women’s vaginas against their will and deny them the right to choose when they give birth.

There are multiple reports of Texas highway patrol officers captured by dashboard cameras performing unconstitutional cavity searches on women’s genitals during traffic stops that lawyers and civil rights advocates claim are all too common. In two separate cases hundreds of miles and six weeks apart, women reported, and video-tapes confirm, that Texas state troopers pulled women over for questionable traffic violations and summoned female troopers to perform anal and vaginal cavity searches hunting for marijuana. To make matters worse, the trooper-rapes were committed on camera on public highways, and are deemed illegal by Texas law and any civilized human being outside conservative misogyny circles. According to the Texas Penal Code Section 22.011, Sexual Assualt; “(a) A person commits an offense if the person: (1) intentionally or knowingly: (A) causes the penetration of the anus or sexual organ of another person by any means, without that person’s consent.” In the Penal Code it specifically cites the illegality of a “public servant who coerces the other person to submit or participate,” and it makes both the physical rapist and the trooper directing the rape guilty of what Texas Penal Code labels “sexual assault” that is legalese for “forcible rape.”

The particulars of why the Texas troopers called in reinforcements to commit the actual rape are inconsequential and dubious, but suffice it to say the rapes were committed without the women’s consent and under “color of authority” that makes the crimes all the more heinous. There is also the violation of the women’s 4th Amendment rights at play and in each case the trooper who directed the sexual assaults clearly had no reason to believe the women hid marijuana in vaginas or anal cavities. The fact that the incidents were not isolated and committed by different troopers at different times and locations across Texas suggest a pattern despite there is no written policy directing troopers to forcibly violate women during traffic stops.

In one graphic video taken from a state trooper’s “dash cam” two women are probed in their vaginas and rectums by a female officer wearing gloves after a routine traffic stop near Dallas. Within a week a second video surfaced revealing a similar scenario during a traffic stop just outside Houston and with completely different Texas state troopers; there are at least five other reported incidents. In the first incident the women were pulled over for allegedly throwing a cigarette out of the window, and in the second two women were pulled over for allegedly speeding; all four women were subjected to body cavity searches by a female officer summoned to the scene by a male trooper. In the second video with clear audio, the women can be heard yelling as the female trooper shoves her gloved finger inside one woman, and in both rapes the female troopers did not change gloves between probes.

It is possible that the Texas troopers were devotees of the Republican belief that there is such a thing as “legitimate rape” and regarded rape under color of authority legal. Obviously if they were comfortable putting the sexual assaults on video, they truly believed they were well within their authority to summon and direct a female trooper to conduct the actual rape. For some reason, the culture of rape in America is much more prevalent than people living in a modern society want to believe, and there is a segment of the population (mostly men) who consider it their holy right to violate women. Last year when the Steubenville rape gang’s crimes were exposed a phalanx of men came to the rapists’ assistance to defend their actions and slander the victim; it is a common practice Republicans have spent the past two years encouraging.

Besides Republicans in Congress attempting to redefine rape as either legitimate or spurious, several Republican-controlled states have mandated medical professionals conduct “rape by medical instrument” or face the prospect of losing their license to practice as well as face possible jail time. In fact, Republicans have made inserting themselves into women’s vaginas their primary responsibility at the urging of the religious right, and it is all predicated on their belief that women are commanded by their deity to subject themselves to a man’s will. The deeply-held belief that women must subjugate themselves to men is part and parcel of the culture of rape a frightening number of men subscribe to, and is perpetuated by Republicans who could barely be bothered to pass the Violence Against Women Act while they promoted the vile concept of “legitimate rape.”

What is astonishing, and incomprehensible, is the number of women who vote for and support Republicans convinced their authority as men justifies mandating intrusion into a woman’s body as if it is their dog-given duty. One is hard-pressed to understand why any woman would support Republicans who regard women as livestock to be manipulated and abused, and it may be that they are so entrenched in the “women are subservient” mindset that they fail to see the atrocity of men violating women. It is also a mystery why any man would support and condone Republicans legislating that their wives, sisters, daughters, and mothers are free-game to other men, but it is possible they too are mesmerized by the thought that women exist as mere objects for men to abuse.

The incidents in Texas are not isolated and are rape under any interpretation of the law regardless it is during a traffic stop on a public highway, or in a doctor’s office to satisfy perverse Republicans and their evangelical support group. The culture of rape in America is but one expression of the ideology that men have a right to dominate women and it is high time that decent men stand up and fight alongside America’s women for their rights. Regardless it is the right to equal pay for equal work, equity in healthcare expense, or freedom to drive in Texas without fear of being raped by state troopers, the misogyny and culture of rape plaguing America must end


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/06/republicans-seek-decriminalize-rape-crimes-women.html


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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 6:02:51 PM   
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they are EXCELLENT women

Perhaps my all-time favorite book!

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 6:04:11 PM   
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I was just thinking: should we collect a list of names of people who say 'Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear' and forward it to Texas's Finest so members of that admirable organisation could pop round without delay to their houses for some hearty vaginal foraging and rectal rummaging?

Splendid idea!

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 6:53:30 PM   
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Indeed. Any and every orifice!

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 6:57:19 PM   
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What is astonishing, and incomprehensible, is the number of women who vote for and support Republicans convinced their authority as men justifies mandating intrusion into a woman’s body as if it is their dog-given duty. One is hard-pressed to understand why any woman would support Republicans who regard women as livestock to be manipulated and abused, and it may be that they are so entrenched in the “women are subservient” mindset that they fail to see the atrocity of men violating women. It is also a mystery why any man would support and condone Republicans legislating that their wives, sisters, daughters, and mothers are free-game to other men, but it is possible they too are mesmerized by the thought that women exist as mere objects for men to abuse.


It's a bit less astonishing, I think, when people really get some understanding on what authoritarianism is, how it works, and how powerful and pervasive an effect it has.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:00:34 PM   
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they are EXCELLENT women

Perhaps my all-time favorite book!

Barbara Pym shout out from dc!


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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:06:05 PM   
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It's really a terribly depressing and frightening story.
One wonders how the leap from threw a cig out the window
so she must have marijuana packed in her ass and vag is made?
And where are the anal probes for the men who threw cigs
out their car windows? Didn't get those on tape? No need to
call the female trooper for that. Bubba can just put the glove
on himself.

Wonder if there have been any indications that some women
were targeted for this? Meaning trooper sees attractive woman
and comes up with a reason to stop her.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:19:38 PM   
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It's really a terribly depressing and frightening story.
One wonders how the leap from threw a cig out the window
so she must have marijuana packed in her ass and vag is made?
And where are the anal probes for the men who threw cigs
out their car windows? Didn't get those on tape? No need to
call the female trooper for that. Bubba can just put the glove
on himself.

Wonder if there have been any indications that some women
were targeted for this? Meaning trooper sees attractive woman
and comes up with a reason to stop her.



I spoke with a friend who is a DPS officer (state Trooper) and according to him, there is a lot of rumors going around within the ranks, and many officers do not agree with what happened.

That being said, Texas DPS officers are notorious for putting up a united front to the public. Which means that these officers may find themselves suspended or terminated for some bizarre or petty incident. It has happened in the past.

What surprises me is that the Democrats in Austin seem to be staying quiet, and Governor Perry who is always quick to jump on something is not saying much either.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:25:53 PM   
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What do you mean - exactly that they dont agree with what happened?


it is either official policy or it is not.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:30:11 PM   
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What do you mean - exactly that they dont agree with what happened?


it is either official policy or it is not.


It is neither official policy, unless there is probable cause, which is usually down on the border, not that far in state, and they feel that the searches were excessive.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:50:12 PM   
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Are things so boring here you have to bring up old news ?


While these incidents did happen last year, new developments may have prompted recent coverage: one case was settled and another brought before a grand jury.

"The Department of Public Safety fired Bui on June 29. Turner was suspended pending an administrative review."


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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 7:59:41 PM   
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Look, I dont say this too loudly, because I do not want Governor Perry's secret anti-moderate and liberal elimination squads to track me down, but this is Texas, just what the hell did you expect? Law Enforcement Officers showing a bit of sensitivity? They did that when they had female officers do the search.

No. But law enforcement officers obeying the law would be a really pleasant surprise.

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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 8:10:09 PM   
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RE: Texas state troopers caught on camera probing women... - 8/6/2013 8:15:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Look, I dont say this too loudly, because I do not want Governor Perry's secret anti-moderate and liberal elimination squads to track me down, but this is Texas, just what the hell did you expect? Law Enforcement Officers showing a bit of sensitivity? They did that when they had female officers do the search.

No. But law enforcement officers obeying the law would be a really pleasant surprise.



This is Texas, the legal system is a mix of the 1800's, the John Wayne code of manhood, the common law system and insanity, mostly insanity.

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