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Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/14/2013 8:50:31 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fL9RmVtMP0&feature=player_embedded

In western societies, such blatant discrimination wouldn't be allowed if it was directed against blacks, muslims, or women in this day and age.
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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/14/2013 10:37:52 PM   
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This is a year old. Its interesting to note the US Airlines do not have this policy.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/14/2013 11:07:54 PM   
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I'm sure in the US the police *DO* profile sexual predators as male. Now, I wonder why that is?

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/14/2013 11:29:01 PM   
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I'm sure in the US the police *DO* profile sexual predators as male. Now, I wonder why that is?


Most terrorists are muslims. I suppose using your logic, it would be okay to have special phobic policies towards muslims in the airlines.

Oh wait, that wouldn't be allowed to begin with.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 12:26:47 AM   
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To add, another good example how society views men.

Men are ebil, I tell ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A


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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:03:43 AM   
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Misandry is the direct result of feminism? (btw, that video is old, even my spell check has the word included)

might be interesting for you to note that the word is just a smidge older than the use of "feminism" or "feminist".

The only hate here is your hatred of women, Nick. You hate them so badly you want to blame everything on them.

Why is that?

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:13:27 AM   
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I have no interest in having some jackass try to paint me as a victim simply because I'm a man. What kind of weak-minded bullshit is that? Men are violent, power hungry animals. That's what makes us successful hunters, leaders, and protectors.

Bury an axe in their head and drink a beer over their corpse...partytime!

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:21:14 AM   
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Misandry is the direct result of feminism? (btw, that video is old, even my spell check has the word included)


Because western societies focus on men's suffering is only still catching up compared to the very advanced focus on women's suffering. In fact, the female victim status is what I would define as an obsessive social trend in today's society while on the other hand, pointing out that men can be victims of sexism and discrimination too will more likely make a person a social outcast.

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The only hate here is your hatred of women, Nick. You hate them so badly you want to blame everything on them.


Care to quote where I do?

Do the same standards apply to patriarchy blamers? Ya know the types that blame anything negative on the world on patriarchy?

It's funny how many people don't consider that sexist and yet when the tables are turned, OMG sexism within a split second.




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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:27:26 AM   
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Molestations of children have happened on planes.

http://www.sfweekly.com/2009-07-15/news/predators-are-free-to-move-about-the-cabin/1/

This one admitted to it. I cannot say its only been caused by men. But those seem to be the one's who are reported.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:29:34 AM   
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Because western societies focus on men's suffering is only still catching up compared to the very advanced focus on women's suffering. In fact, the female victim status is what I would define as an obsessive social trend in today's society while on the other hand, pointing out that men can be victims of sexism and discrimination too will more likely make a person a social outcast.


Could that be because, for centuries, the "suffering of men" you claim to be happening didnt exist? Im all for equal rights for everyone. I am not for equal blaming simply because men now find themselves displaced to a lower rung on a totem pole they made themselves.

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Care to quote where I do?


Every post you blame women for the ills and worries of men.

Every post.

There is no reason for any sane person on these boards to believe you dont.

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Do the same standards apply to patriarchy blamers? Ya know the types that blame anything negative on the world on patriarchy?

It's funny how many people don't consider that sexist and yet when the tables are turned, OMG sexism within a split second.


I have YET to come across a single post of yours that is in any way complimentary to any woman. Unless you can point one out, you just proved my argument for me.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:36:44 AM   
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This one admitted to it. I cannot say its only been caused by men. But those seem to be the one's who are reported.


Firstly, how many times has it happened when comparing it to every flight that has happened in the world? Every flight as for the millions and millions? Would it be like even less than 1 percent?

So do you think this is going a bit too far considering the percentage of time it actually happens?

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Every post you blame women for the ills and worries of men.


I am yet to see a quote.

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I have YET to come across a single post of yours that is in any way complimentary to any woman.


Could it be that I am not here to pick up women? Oh the sexism!


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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:39:55 AM   
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Firstly, how many times has it happened when comparing it to every flight that has happened in the world? Every flight as for the millions and millions? Would it be like even less than 1 percent?

So do you think this is going a bit too far considering the percentage of time it actually happens?


What is the percentage of times it has happened? Do find out and get back to us.

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Could it be that I am not here to pick up women? Oh the sexism!


Im not here to pick up men. Yet I have complimented many men on these boards. Unless you can find one post that is complimentary to a woman, any woman, not just one who is a member here, my point remains.

You are here to bash women... period.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:44:15 AM   
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What is the percentage of times it has happened? Do find out and get back to us.


I'm the one claiming it hardly happens, it seems you are the one claiming it happens a lot. So it's your job to show us this... "a lot".

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Im not here to pick up men. Yet I have complimented many men on these boards. Unless you can find one post that is complimentary to a woman, any woman, not just one who is a member here, my point remains.


So in your faulty logic, just because I don't suck up to a woman, I'm a misogynist? Riiight.

If a woman doesn't agree with men's rights and doesn't say very nice things about men, she's a misandrist!




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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:53:52 AM   
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I'm the one claiming it hardly happens, it seems you are the one claiming it happens a lot. So it's your job to show us this... "a lot".


Do show me where I said "a lot". Do show me where I indicated in any way a mention of numbers in any form.

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So in your faulty logic, just because I don't suck up to a woman, I'm a misogynist? Riiight.

If a woman doesn't agree with men's rights and doesn't say very nice things about men, she's a misandrist!


Most women I know agree with men's rights. We also agree men are a major part of the blame for what is happening to men in that regards.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 4:57:02 AM   
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Men are violent, power hungry animals.


You just painted your self with that.

So how are you violent? Do you hurt and kill people? Who?

What power are you craving? Power over the whole world?

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 5:16:32 AM   
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oh dear! naughtynick has found a 'solution' to his problems.

Beware everyone - things have just taken a turn for the worse ...

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 5:21:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

You just painted your self with that.

In bright, vivid colors. I call it "war paint".



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So how are you violent?

Depends on circumstances.



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Do you hurt and kill people?

Not as a general rule but I'm more than capable of it...depending on circumstances.



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Who?

Usually animals but I'm also a firm believer in self-defense regarding most types of thuggery.


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What power are you craving? Power over the whole world?

Sounds okay to me. Can I have your vote?



What kind of men are they raising in Australia anyway?


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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 7:56:31 AM   
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The OP's apparent problems with women's rights aside, this is a form of bigotry and discrimination and one that I am well aware of.

A few years ago I would pick up my four year old grand niece from preschool and take her to my sister's (her grandmother's) house. I would get a lot of looks from other people. Sometimes I would take her out to lunch and I actually had people walk up to my niece and ask "are you okay, Honey? Do you need help?" There was, no doubt, a racial element to this... I'm white and my grand niece is black... but it still pissed the hell out of me.

The knowledge that as a male you are automatically suspect when around children is something you don't forget.

Almost every year I go to Stratford, Ontario for the Shakespeare Festival. Near the Festival Theater there is a playground next to a nice parking lot. Often, my gal pal and I will get there early and then hang loose for a bit, watching the children play, before heading over to the theater. Watching the delight of children as they play is an enjoyable way to kill some time.

This one time my gal pal didn't want to hang loose. There was an exhibition of famous costumes from past plays that she wanted to see before the show. She asked if I was coming along. I said yes. Truth be told, I didn't really care to see the costumes exhibit and would have been happy to watch the children play as usual. But of course I didn't. A lone, middle-aged man watching the kids at a playground... yeah... like I'm going to hang around for the outcome of that.

It sucks and, frankly, it hurts when society views you negatively for no good reason at all.

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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 8:01:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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Men are violent, power hungry animals.


You just painted your self with that.

So how are you violent? Do you hurt and kill people? Who?

What power are you craving? Power over the whole world?


I don't think all men actually crave power.

But when looking over the grand scale of history, we can see that there has been a lot of suffering by countless men, women, and children who have walked this Earth. You don't think Western society has focused on and considered the suffering of men? I disagree completely with that. Many wars, revolutions, and progressive reforms were brought about by men to help alleviate the suffering of men (and women and children, too).

Humans are a violent species. I disagree with the notion that violence is a male-only domain, as I think men and women have a shared responsibility for both the good and the bad about our species.

Do you have any solutions to any of this? I think you've effectively outlined the problem you're addressing in the numerous threads you've started on this subject, but what would you propose as a solution? I think just about everyone posting has agreed on the basic concept of equal rights for all, so if everyone seems to agree on that, what else is this argument about?


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RE: Anti male bigotry exposed - 8/15/2013 9:09:11 AM   
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...this is a form of bigotry and discrimination and one that I am well aware of.


As am I. The last girl I dated had a 10 year old daughter and I was the one who picked her up from school every day. For the first week I had to deal with teachers calling her mother to make sure it was okay for me to pick her up. It was probably another week or two before all the teachers began to remember me. But I didn't let that bother me. In fact, I was more pleased that they actually did check up on me just because I wanted to know they were watching out for her.

Fact is, men have been the primary suspect for every kind of crime since the dawn of civilization. If you haven't accepted that by now then you're way behind the curve and possibly being a little naive. My advice? Man up and deal with it or gracefully remove yourself from the situation.

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