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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/3/2004 1:43:39 PM   
masteroffire


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I understand your situation, and the spot you are in. The problem you are having with Doms not fulfilling their promises is answered in your profile and in the answer you have been given.

I am not knocking you or anyone who you have met on this site, but you are asking for someone to help you sneak around behind your husbands back. For someone to help you live a lie and in effect lie themselves. When what you seek is dishonesty, it would be hard to find honesty.

Don't take this as a put down, it is not meant to be. The truth is that you have a difficult decision to make, and though I normally don't give advice I have a suggestion. The easy thing to see is two choices, but there is a third though you allude to it's no existance. Many will see the two options, choose your husband or choose the lifestyle. I recommend subtly trying to interest your husband in trying it out with you. I realize that you said he's not interested, but you never know. When I first heard about the lifestyle, I told the person I was talking to that i wasn't interested. I said I wasn't interested in the idea many times before I even took the chance and read about it and met those in the LS, and found out that it was exactly what I always wanted.

However if you find out for sure that he is definitely not interested, that leaves you with the choice between him, the LS, or living a lie somewhere in between. I don't envy you, but I wish you the best. I hope that whatever decision you make works out for the best. But keep in mind, that with your current situation, you are unlikely to attract the "good" Doms that you seek.

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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/4/2004 2:01:46 PM   
XtraSpecialCpl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: princess4Sir

quote:

ORIGINAL: jillwfsub4blkdom

you talk about qualities you are seeking in a Dom. Qualities you find desirable and honorable but yet as others have pointed out you are married and seeking something that is clandestine. i find that a little bit at odds myself.



why do you assume it is clandestine?





Maybe it is the use of the word descretion in your profile.

"Discretion is of primary importance."

Now if your profile stated that husband is aware and approves of my activities, then one could interpret that the descretion that you seek is from your kids, relatives or other vanilla folks.


Tom and his $0.02 worth

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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/7/2004 3:42:17 PM   
Falcor64


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RealityFix


Sorry, but the best you are likely to attract is a "service Top"......And those sorts aren't exactly "serious" anyhow.

Regards,Terry


This sounds like the start of one of those endless "real Dom" flame wars.
There are no defining elements that make someone "real" or "serious."

For example, I am very much a "scene" dominant. My interest is in having a long-term relationship in which BDSM is a part, not the defining element of the relationship. Is that "serious" as you describe it? Your call. From my perspective, it is. For example, I'm scrupulous about being honest, knowing my own limits, and I ensure that I am skilled at the things I do. To me, that's serious. YMMV.

Regards,
Falcor

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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/7/2004 4:34:51 PM   
Falcor64


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ORIGINAL: princess4Sir

why do so many doms make promises that they can't and/or don't intend to keep? more than once i have begun exploring a relationship with someone who without me asking, tells me we will have daily contact - by phone, by email, by messenger - i am a sensitive and vulnerable person (which i wish i could change but haven't had much success) so when they fail to follow through, i am hurt

i am mature enough to know that there are always situations that can arise that would prevent the communication at any given time, but not time and time again - i have found that it not usually an attempt to "let me down easy" - it's just that he does not feel the importance of following through and that as the dominant, he is entitled to do as he pleases


princess,
A simple answer is that there's a lot of psychological distance between people online. That contributes to folks not thinking very much about their effects on others. So this dom may not consider skipping contact to be a big deal.
In addition, people are complex critters. Your perceptions and that of the Dom are crucial here. The Dom may think, "I can do what I want" as you said, or may have a looser definition of "daily" than you do. Perhaps you expect "daily" to be every 24 hours on the dot; that he must IM or email at exactly 10:42am each day. On the other hand, the Dom may thinks that as long as he contacts you each day, it is sufficient. This is a recipe for hurt and anger. I'm not saying that you are this way, just using it as an illustration.

Another example- I once worked for someone who had a loose definition of "on time." She'd get there generally within 10-15 minutes of when she said she'd be, but she was almost always late. She'd say, "I'll be there at 8"; I knew that meant anywhere from 8 to 8:15, & sometimes much later. I'm the sort who is on time, so this could have been a real pain. But, I just learned that this was who she is, & accepted it as such.

Definately get your expectations out there. So when J. Random Dom says "I'll contact you daily," let him know what that means to you, both emotionally and in terms of timing. Eg-"Since you've said that you'll contact me each day, please stick to that or let me know why. I feel hurt when someone tells me something & then does not do it." Especially if you have very precise expectations, like the "each day at 10:42" example, but in general, let him know.

I also echo the other folks who've said that your profile suggests dishonesty, & that can attract less honest Doms. I think it would be a good idea to change your profile & be more clear about what you mean by "discretion." As one of those good, upstanding, Doms you're looking for, I'd pass you by if your husband did not know and approve of what you want to do. It would fail my own personal ethics. So, let folks know what you mean & you might attract a better class of Dom!

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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/10/2004 2:06:32 PM   
MC2044


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A dom who is not true to his word can be considered inconsistant, and that lack of dependency can crush a D/s relationship.

Now being one of those who prefers daily contact from slave to master, I have to add that contact does not mean communication. Let me explain.

If you leave me a voicemail, email, or make a journal entry, that is contact. Remember the contact pleases me, and your failure to contact me displeases me. Now I realize you wish to be in communication with me, but I may choose to or not be able to communicate with you. I realize it is most likely my pleasure and in my best interest to communicate with you, but is my choice, isn't it?

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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/14/2004 7:12:02 AM   
RaeRae39


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Wow, what wonderful posts on this topic, it has really helped me to read the insight of other peoples views, and knowledge of the life style.
I understand Princess's disappointment. Although, I filed for divorce because I was sick of being miserable, and then discovered the lifestyle afterward. I am still legally separated because my ex won't sign off on the papers, which I am resolving in court in Jan. But, I am honest with any Dom or sub that I correspond with about my life. It really helps to have other subs like ourselves for friends by the way, to share experiences with and thoughts. {hey, it's helped me at least} To me, being true to myself at this point is worth it, and I am paying a huge price let me tell you~! I am financially struggling, have a little girl, and am still willing to go ahead, and deal with the being scared shitless at times with this new life. I want to have a quality relationship with the "one" special master that may come to me. To give all of me to him. And for those that say to suggest it to your husband, ah good luck. My ex would have been freaked out.
And as for relying on your Dom to keep his word. Well, this is a hard lesson for me as well. My old master was the worst. He never ever kept his word on anything. I would be ready to leave my house to come see him, say on a Friday, packed bags, literally leaving the house, and I would call him to let him know I was leaving. And you know what? He would say, hey, I've changed my mind, I'm not in the mood for you, your not worth my time or effort, and I'm leaving for a vacation for the weekend. How's that for unreliable behavior. {I would even have groceries packed to make him a special dinner!}
If you would like to write me Princess feel free too, it so helps to talk with other subs~!!
Raerae




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RE: seeking a "good" dom's input - 12/23/2004 9:47:27 PM   
Kinkypupper


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Unfortunately there are WAY to many wannabees who are just "playing" the field.
A "true" Dom personality will say what they mean and stand by it. They will also admit when they are wrong.
Things to "change" and to admit that also is what should occur.
They can also be very openly emotional about things..


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