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252 examples of obamas lies - 8/17/2013 10:33:51 PM   
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174) Secretly obtained phone records from Associated Press reporters and editors
In May 2013, Associated Press reported:
The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative’s top executive called a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into how news organizations gather the news.
The records obtained by the Justice Department listed outgoing calls for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP. It was not clear if the records also included incoming calls or the duration of calls.
In all, the government seized the records for more than 20 separate telephone lines assigned to AP and its journalists in April and May of 2012. The exact number of journalists who used the phone lines during that period is unknown but more than 100 journalists work in the offices where phone records were targeted, on a wide array of stories about government and other matters.
In a letter of protest sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, AP President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Pruitt said the government sought and obtained information far beyond anything that could be justified by any specific investigation. He demanded the return of the phone records and destruction of all copies.
“There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know,” Pruitt said.
Soon afterward, it was reported that obtaining these phone records had required approval from Eric Holder, Obama’s Attorney General.
This has had a very dangerous and harmful effect on the media’s ability to report the news. In June 2013, Gary Pruitt, the president and chief executive of Associated Press said:
“Some longtime trusted sources have become nervous and anxious about talking with us… In some cases, government employees we once checked in with regularly will no longer speak to us by phone. Others are reluctant to meet in person … This chilling effect on newsgathering is not just limited to AP… Journalists from other news organizations have personally told me that it has intimidated both official and nonofficial sources from speaking to them as well.”
175) Asked contractors to disclose their political donations before bidding on government contracts
In April 2011, Obama asked contractors to disclose their political donations before bidding on government contracts.

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The list is stunning. He is way worse then bush ever was.
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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/17/2013 10:42:32 PM   
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Some of the so called lies in this list are not lies but statements of Obama's actions.
Whether positive or negative, they do not constitute a lie.

For instance, how is it a lie that he "shut down an Amish farm?"

Just wondering.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/17/2013 10:59:40 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Center... explains it all.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/17/2013 11:34:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-supporters-will-go-hysterical-over-this-well-sourced-list-of-252-examples-of-his-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-etc/


174) Secretly obtained phone records from Associated Press reporters and editors
In May 2013, Associated Press reported:
The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative’s top executive called a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into how news organizations gather the news.
The records obtained by the Justice Department listed outgoing calls for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP. It was not clear if the records also included incoming calls or the duration of calls.
In all, the government seized the records for more than 20 separate telephone lines assigned to AP and its journalists in April and May of 2012. The exact number of journalists who used the phone lines during that period is unknown but more than 100 journalists work in the offices where phone records were targeted, on a wide array of stories about government and other matters.
In a letter of protest sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, AP President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Pruitt said the government sought and obtained information far beyond anything that could be justified by any specific investigation. He demanded the return of the phone records and destruction of all copies.
“There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know,” Pruitt said.
Soon afterward, it was reported that obtaining these phone records had required approval from Eric Holder, Obama’s Attorney General.
This has had a very dangerous and harmful effect on the media’s ability to report the news. In June 2013, Gary Pruitt, the president and chief executive of Associated Press said:
“Some longtime trusted sources have become nervous and anxious about talking with us… In some cases, government employees we once checked in with regularly will no longer speak to us by phone. Others are reluctant to meet in person … This chilling effect on newsgathering is not just limited to AP… Journalists from other news organizations have personally told me that it has intimidated both official and nonofficial sources from speaking to them as well.”
175) Asked contractors to disclose their political donations before bidding on government contracts
In April 2011, Obama asked contractors to disclose their political donations before bidding on government contracts.

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The list is stunning. He is way worse then bush ever was.



Well, ya got us on that one.

But Reagan's one big lie, "government is not the solution, government is the problem," has taken society on the long downhill slide that we find ourselves in today.

No question, the Republican lies are at least 252 times more efficient (by your count) than the Democrat's lies, regarding effective destruction of society.

And this before we even get to all that "supply side" crap.


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BTW, how's that silver thing working out for ya?




Yeah, that's why we all take you so seriously, you know.







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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 12:10:38 AM   
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information warfare..... Tactical deception

http://www.ausairpower.net/PDF-A/Deception-IWC7-06-Slides.pdf

It pays to cheat:
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2012/06/26/rsbl.2012.0435.full

Game theory

This dude is neat, "I am carry no gun, have no camouflage but I am a warrior"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdDlEX5q5Rs

http://www.ndu.edu/press/lib/pdf/strategic-perspectives/Strategic-Perspectives-11.pdf


Possibly someone will find some relevance.

I dunno

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 12:11:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Center... explains it all.

It explains nothing. The WJC piece is a reprint from Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog. The clue to this possibly obscure fact is hidden at the top of the story under the headline:

(Editor’s note: This commentary originally appeared at Dan from Squirrel Hill’s blog and is graciously reprinted here with permission.)

What have you got on Dan from Squirrel Hill? I mean, I dunno. I haven't read his blog. Maybe he's related to George Bush? That would certainly prove that anything he has to say is worthless.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 12:23:19 AM   
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 12:42:30 AM   
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I will assume the reply was to me only because I was the last person?

http://www.ithinkthereforeirant.com/2009/01/17/the-100-accomplishments-of-the-george-w-bush-administration/

Don't get me wrong I still support the immediate arrest of Bush. If convicted and was a legal viable option I would have no issue with the death penalty.

But, posting these stupid lists. Misses the point as much as the OP. I gave a bit on deception relevant to politics. Then replied to another in painful detail, if you look at the links relevant to IRAQ.

I think both combine in context with "leaked" information since June 6th 2013 paint a fascinating picture of our political system as a whole.

(What a strange first post too - BTW)

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 12:55:05 AM   
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There's plenty of material on both sides of this one...

A documented list of Obama's lies:
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

A long list of Obama's failures:
http://bismarcktribune.com/news/opinion/mailbag/obama-has-long-list-of-failures/article_c9ca69b4-7acc-11e1-8bd4-001a4bcf887a.html

Obama's multplying foreign policy failures:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/14/obamas-multiplying-foreign-policy-failures/

In other news, apparently some dimwit has screwed up the Reply to Message box so that it doesn't handle links or fonts correctly.

K.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 1:27:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: beautifulxbruise

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/



Yeah, he did win the Nobel Peace Prize for.........?

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 1:44:47 AM   
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Anyone who didn't know what Obama's game plan was in JULY OF 2008 simply had not paid attention at that time, so this faux-outrage at everything going exactly as everyone who DID PAY ATTENTION expected it to is really unwarranted.

But you know, the pearl-clutching nuts in the Repubican-Talbian just can't get over their fear of a black president and shit.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 2:24:35 AM   
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the Repubican-Talbian just can't get over their fear of a black president

I was wondering how long it would take before somebody played that card.

K.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 7:32:35 AM   
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I think 1 person has read the link.


For shame for shame.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:12:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Center... explains it all.

It explains nothing. The WJC piece is a reprint from Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog. The clue to this possibly obscure fact is hidden at the top of the story under the headline:

(Editor’s note: This commentary originally appeared at Dan from Squirrel Hill’s blog and is graciously reprinted here with permission.)

What have you got on Dan from Squirrel Hill? I mean, I dunno. I haven't read his blog. Maybe he's related to George Bush? That would certainly prove that anything he has to say is worthless.

K.



Thank you for reinforcing my point. A blogger's rant was reposted and people are stupid enough to buy into the rant without fact checking it. Amusing that you wouldnt have a problem with that.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:17:22 AM   
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1) Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval

In June 2011, U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) said that Obama had violated the Constitution when he launched military operations in Libyawithout Congressional approval.

Obama supporters will go hysterical over this well sourced list of 252 examples of his lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, etc.

2) Gave a no-bid contract to Halliburton – just like Bush did

In May 2010, it was reported that the Obama administration had selected KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton, for a no-bid contract worth as much as $568 million through 2011, just hours after the Justice Department had said it would pursue a lawsuit accusing the Houston-based company of using kickbacks to get foreign contracts.

3) Has an administration full of lobbyists, after promising he wouldn’t have any

While running for President, Obama had promised that, unlike Bush, he would not have any lobbyists working in his administration. However, by February 2010, he had more than 40 lobbyists working in his administration.

4) Has close ties to Wall St., but pretends to support Occupy Wall St.

Although Obama claims to support the Occupy Wall St. movement, the truth is that he has raised more money from Wall St. than any other candidate during the last 20 years. In early 2012, Obama held a fundraiser where Wall St. investment bankers and hedge fund managers each paid $35,800 to attend. In October 2011, Obama hired Broderick Johnson, a longtime Wall Street lobbyist, to be his new senior campaign adviser. Johnson had worked as a lobbyist for JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Fannie Mae, Comcast, Microsoft, and the oil industry.

5) Broke his promise to close Guantanamo Bay

Obama broke his promise to close Guantanamo Bay.

6) Supported the $700 billion TARP corporate-welfare bailout just like Bush

While Senator, Obama voted for the $700 billion TARP bank bailout bill. The bailout rewarded irresponsible and illegal behavior. It redirected resources from more productive uses to less productive uses. It punished the hard working taxpayers who had played by the rules and obeyed the law. It created horrible incentives, and sent the wrong message. The bailout was evil because it rewarded the bad people and punished the good people. No society that does this can expect to remain free or prosperous. Instead of bailing out these corrupt corporations, we should have let them cease to exist, like we did with Enron.

7) Waged the biggest war against medical marijuana of any president, which was the opposite of what he had promised

In May 2008, Obama campaign spokesperson Ben LaBolt said that Obama would end DEA raids on medical marijuana in states where it’s legal. Also in 2008, Obama said that he supported the “basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs” and that he was “not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws.”

However, in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana grower in Highlands Ranch in Colorado, a state where medical marijuana is legal. Also in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary in Culver City in California, a state where medical marijuana is legal. In July 2010, the DEA raided at least four medical marijuana growers in San Diego, California. Also in July 2010, the DEA raided a medical marijuana facility in Covelo, California. Then in September 2010, the DEA conducted raids on at least five medical marijuana dispensaries in Las Vegas, Nevada, where medical marijuana is legal. In 2011, the DEA conducted raids on medical marijuana in Seattle, Washington, West Hollywood, California, and Helena, Montana, all places where it is legal. In April 2012, the DEA carried out several raids on medical marijuana in Oakland, California.

In February 2012, Rolling Stone magazine wrote that Obama’s war against medical marijuana went “far beyond anything undertaken by George W. Bush.” In April 2012, Mother Jones magazine wrote: “The president campaigned on the promise that he’d stop federal raids on medical marijuana operations that were in compliance with state laws, a vow that Attorney General Eric Holder repeated after the election. But then the Obama administration raided more than 100 dispensaries in its first three years and is now poised to outpace the Bush administration’s crackdown record.” In May 2012, the Washington Post wrote: “Obama has become more hostile to medical marijuana patients than any president in U.S. history.” In May 2012, U.S. Congressperson Nancy Pelosi (D-California) said she had “strong concerns” about Obama’s forced closure of five medical marijuana facilities in Pelosi’s congressional district. In April 2012, commenting on Obama’s crackdown on medical marijuana, U.S. Congressman Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts) said, “I’m very disappointed… They look more like the Bush administration than the Clinton administration.”

In July 2012, federal prosecutors filed civil forfeiture actions against Harborside Health Center, a medical marijuana dispensary in Oakland, CA, which claims to be the world’s largest, and which claims to serve more than 100,000 medical marijuana patients. In April 2012, federal agents raidedOaksterdam University, an educational institution in Oakland, CA, which teaches people about medical marijuana. In April 2012, federal agents raideda medical marijuana facility which had been serving 1,500 patients near Lake Elsinore, CA. In June 2012, the Obama administration filed asset-forfeiture lawsuits against two landlords who rented their buildings to medical marijuana stores in Santa Fe Springs, CA. The Obama administration also sent warning letters which threatened similar legal action to dozens of other, nearby landlords. During the first seven months of 2012, the DEA shut down40 medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado, all of which had been operating in compliance with state and local law.

In July 2013, the DEA conducted multiple medical marijuana raids in Washington state, including the cities of Olympia, Tacoma, and Seattle.

In May 2012, ABC News reported that during Obama’s youth, he often smoked large quantities of recreational marijuana. Obama’s marijuana smoking wasn’t even medical – it was recreational. And yet now, he is taking large scale, widespread action to prevent people with AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, and other illnesses, who have prescriptions from their doctors, from using their prescription medicine – how cold hearted can a person be?

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Since no one read the link- which of these points are incorrect? I would like to know. Maybe I can learn from you.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:23:39 AM   
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252 examples of obamas lies

Post 252 of his lies.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:27:46 AM   
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252 examples of obamas lies

Post 252 of his lies.



252) Threatened internet service providers with contempt of court if they did not install surveillance software

In August 2013, it was reported that the Obama administration had pressured internet service providers to install surveillance software, so that it could monitor internet traffic without a warrant. Internet service providers who did not cave in to this pressure were threatened by the Obama administration with contempt of court. This violated the Constitution’s ban on warrantless searches. In addition, the executive branch does not have the legal authority to declare contempt of court, as this power is reserved exclusively for the judicial branch.
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Then Snowden should be no big deal then.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:30:14 AM   
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^He makes a valid point. I find it very hard to pick sides here since I have some Liberalish views and other Conservative views. Everyone seems to be way to the right or way to the left lol.

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:34:09 AM   
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1) Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval

How is that a lie?

2) Gave a no-bid contract to Halliburton – just like Bush did

6) Supported the $700 billion TARP corporate-welfare bailout just like Bush

8) Nominated a six-time tax cheater to head the government agency that enforces the tax laws

I mean.. hell... I could go on... they arent all lies as you claim in your OP... and frankly Im done with the fact checking for morons that seems to need to go with some of these so called blogger reports.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

They couldnt get 50 lies straight.. and you want me to believe in 252?

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RE: 252 examples of obamas lies - 8/18/2013 8:36:46 AM   
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Okay... let's say he's not a liar. So he's just a shitty president that is incapable of leading this country... K.

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