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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 8/31/2013 8:17:12 PM

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China and Russia have to sell their surpluss too so I say it's a no go area.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 8/31/2013 8:49:52 PM

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This report blames local rebels for the gas attack, using weapons supplied by Saudi Arabia. I have no idea of its accuracy.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 5:19:39 AM

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Where did I suggest this was a US responsibility? I didn't. Nor do I think it should be a US responsibility.
It is an international responsibility and can only work if the international community gets behind it. The UN is the obvious place to sponsor this initiative. Establishing a separate body with independent powers to enforce any agreement (possibly under the aegis of the World Court) would greatly enhance its effectiveness. It would remove enforcement from the political games played at the UN.

Creating a "Worlds Court" that could enforce any agreement, independent of any Nation... would remove sovereignty from every Nation, effectively. I'm not a NWO alarmist, but I would be if this independent body was created.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 7:57:35 AM

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This report blames local rebels for the gas attack, using weapons supplied by Saudi Arabia. I have no idea of its accuracy.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

We might find out for certain if only some bits of the bomb apparatus were to be found. Chances are slim and none, though.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 8:01:43 AM

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Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if the particular weapon used turns out to be something the US sold to Iraq?

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 8:04:23 AM

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There already is a World Court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice

The USA is not a participant:
"After the court ruled that the U.S.'s covert war against Nicaragua was in violation of international law (Nicaragua v. United States), the United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986."

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ETA: One of the main reasons for it ineffectiveness is that cases can only be referred by States, or the UN ie it is subject to political processes. The Court should have the power to initiate its own cases.
BTW if you don't know about Nicaragua and the 'dirty war' there, best you check it out.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 8:16:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There already is a World Court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice
The USA is not a participant:
"After the court ruled that the U.S.'s covert war against Nicaragua was in violation of international law (Nicaragua v. United States), the United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986."
same source

If ther already is one, why did you post: "Establishing a separate body with independent powers to enforce any agreement (possibly under the aegis of the World Court) would greatly enhance its effectiveness. It would remove enforcement from the political games played at the UN."

I can't even begin to imagine how quickly that would get corrupted/politicized.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 10:35:18 AM

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Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if the particular weapon used turns out to be something the US sold to Iraq?

It would.

Now, if I were a Syrian on the ground and saw a bit of, say, shell casing, I might - taking the proper safety precautions, natch - be tempted to hide it so that I could give to, say, a visiting UN inspection team. Said team would then be wise to keep quiet about it till it had left the country.

Well, maybe. But I do feel that we could become much clearer about this atrocity over the next few days.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 11:18:40 AM

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It shouldn't matter who did it because it's none of the US government's business. What is their business is US citizens. Why aren't US tax dollars being spent here at home? That's what governments of other developed countries do because they actually care about their own citizens.

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RE: Chemical weapons used in Syria - 9/1/2013 11:21:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Where did I suggest this was a US responsibility? I didn't. Nor do I think it should be a US responsibility.

It is an international responsibility and can only work if the international community gets behind it. The UN is the obvious place to sponsor this initiative. Establishing a separate body with independent powers to enforce any agreement (possibly under the aegis of the World Court) would greatly enhance its effectiveness. It would remove enforcement from the political games played at the UN.

Tweak, I wasn't referring to (you) specifically, correct you havn't suggested that this is a U.S. responsibility.
I really don't think it's anyone else's "responsibility."
If Australia were having a civil war I don't think anyone would want to see a million Chinese troops there. Or any other country for that matter.

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