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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 4:03:06 PM   
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How much many people forget

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 6:50:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Regarding the OP. They changed their minds. http://gma.yahoo.com/texas-church-epicenter-measles-outbreak-005340239--abc-news-topstories.html;_ylt=ApJG9zXUnkXj9S_Ds0fKz71.oFlH;_ylu=X3oDMTRmM2FpY2lmBGNjb2RlA3ZzaGFyZWFnMnVwcmVzdARtaXQDTmV3cyBmb3IgeW91BHBrZwMyZGFkMmFhZi1jNjU0LTMxOWMtYTI4Yy1mZTcxYTZhNDJhMmUEcG9zAzIEc2VjA25ld3NfZm9yX3lvdQR2ZXIDNjIwZGUzZTAtMGY3My0xMWUzLWI3YmItMTIzOWNjZGRjOTI0;_ylg=X3oDMTBxMWR1aGFvBGxhbmcDZW4tVVMEdGVzdANOYWNlbGxlX09u;_ylv=3

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 6:53:27 PM   
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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 6:54:32 PM   
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Its not the cash cow people believe it to be.

so what are the cash cows for Big Pharma? I am honestly curious about what they are, and why..

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 7:22:02 PM   
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Its not the cash cow people believe it to be.

so what are the cash cows for Big Pharma? I am honestly curious about what they are, and why..

New brand name drugs that are under patent. The ones being advertised on TV for instance.

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 7:31:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pharmaceutical companies, have these cash cows.

10: Effexor (Wyeth)
­An antidepressant, Effexor had $3.8 billion in sales in 2005 and an annual growth rate of 1.2 percent.

9: Prevacid (Abbott Labs/Takeda Pharmaceutical)
A popular drug that treats heartburn, Prevacid had global sales of $4 billion in 2005 and an annual growth rate of 0.9 percent.

8: Risperdal (Janssen)
This is the world's most commonly prescribed atypical antipsychotic medication. At $4 billion, its sales were lower than Zyprexa's, but it had a much larger annual growth rate at 12.6 percent.

7: Zyprexa (Eli Lilly)
Used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, Zyprexa is Eli Lilly's top-selling drug. In 2005, it had global sales of $4.7 billion. However, unlike other drugs on the list, Zyprexa experienced a significant decrease in annual growth -- a dismal 26.8 percent.

6: Norvasc (Pfizer)
The second biggest seller for manufacturer Pfizer, Norvasc is used to treat high blood pressure. It had global sales of $5 billion in 2005 and an annual growth rate of 2.5 percent.

5: Zocor (Merck)
This is another medication used to treat high cholesterol and prevent heart disease. In 2005, Zocor had global sales of $5.3 billion, and its annual growth wasn't shabby either, at 10.7 percent.

4: Seretide/Advair (GlaxoSmithKline)
Although it's ranked No. 4, this asthma inhaler is in the No. 1 spot when it comes to annual growth. GlaxoSmithKline must have been breathless with its 19 percent annual growth rate. Sales for Seretide/Advair were just slightly lower than those for Nexium, coming in at $5.6 billion.

3: Nexium (AstraZeneca)
You probably know this drug as "the purple pill," and its sales numbers certainly merit the royal hue. Nexium, prescribed for heartburn and acid reflux, had sales of $5.7 billion, with an annual growth of 16.7 percent.

2: Plavix (Bristol-Myers Squibb/Sanofi-Aventis)
This medication is used to prevent heart attacks and strokes. Although it has risen to the second spot on the list, its sales were a mere $5.9 billion, less than half those of Lipitor. However, Plavix had 2.5 times the annual growth of Lipitor.

1: Lipitor (Pfizer)
Consistently ranking No. 1, Lipitor holds the title by a wide margin. Its annual sales of $12.9 billion were more than twice those of the next drug on the list. Lipitor treats high cholesterol, which is a major risk factor for heart disease.




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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 7:32:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		That and anything technologically new. What was the recent one in the news in Arizona? An antidote for a scorpion venom. The hospital costs was around 4000 a vial.

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 7:45:29 PM   
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New brand name drugs that are under patent. The ones being advertised on TV for instance.

ah.. yes.. those adverts where they spend 3/4s of the commercial listing (in a calm soothing voice) all the (known) negative side effects & tell you to "ask your Doctor is this drug is right for you"..

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 8:07:39 PM   
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The pharmaceutical companies, have these cash cows.

hmmmm.. I wonder how many are truly necessary for the people that use them, if they were eating healthy and exercising like they are supposed to.. Yes, I know some do need various drugs even if they are doing what they are supposed to do.. some come with aging.. but I know myself several years ago the doc gave me a prescription for something.. I started taking it for a week or two until I started reading up on some of the side effects the drug co claimed the drug didn't have.. all well and good for them to deny those possible risks but I wasn't gonna take that risk that they were wrong! I stopped the pills and changed my diet, exercised religiously and got the health results without the pills.. for people that can make those changes but don't, they are forcing themselves to become pill poppers for the rest of their lives.. when they don't have to be.. not to mention, over time they will need pills for other possibly preventable ailments.. and then what interactions their meds have with each other and the food they eat... that could be doing more harm.. and shortening their life & the quality of it.. Doctors and meds have their place, when used properly... and not overused & abused.. I dunno, I guess people do things knowing they are bad for them, like smoking, etc.. and don't want to do what they already know they should be doing.. So Big Pharma has the "solution" for what ails ya.. but it will cost ya..

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 8:42:15 PM   
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That and anything technologically new. What was the recent one in the news in Arizona? An antidote for a scorpion venom. The hospital costs was around 4000 a vial.


Check the cost for the various rattle snake anti venoms

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RE: Irony - 8/27/2013 9:38:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can say that I truly do need some of those meds listed. Without them I would have shot myself by now.

I take Nexium. When I'm without it, I'm in tears all day and night because of the pain. I eat right so it's not the food I eat. A few years ago I got a bad stomach virus and since then my stomach has been a complete mess plus my family has a history of stomach cancer.

I take anti-depressants. When I forget to take them or I run out, I fall into a deep, dark black hole that feels impossible to crawl out from. Without the meds, someone may as well just put me out of my misery.

Yes, there are people out there who probably don't need them but I would say there's far more that actually do and not because of something they should or should not be doing.

I'm not going to stop taking them just because the big pharmas are making money off of me. I really don't care. All I care about is feeling well and if that means others getting rich from me, so be it. It's all part of living in a democracy, where businesses are allowed to make money if they want and can. I'm all for it.



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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 3:36:17 AM   
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Pst.. that was in the OP.


It cant have been......... Hillwill reads every post before replying, I am the only one who ever get it wrong.

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 5:54:52 AM   
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The pharmaceutical companies, have these cash cows.

Meanwhile, people are living longer and more comfortable lives.
Well, fuck those old folks. Letem suffer.

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 5:58:26 AM   
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< Message edited by Hillwilliam -- 8/28/2013 5:59:52 AM >

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 6:03:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		One of the great achievements of mass vaccines was the elimination of smallpox. I can barely see the scar on my arm after all these decades but I recall it hurt like hell. The batshit crazy ignorant, antivaccine, antiscience conspiracists ought to thank their luck stars they were vaccinated. My dad had smallpox marks on his face but not like this guy in 1881:






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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 10:11:50 PM   
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There was a measles outbreak in Texas over the last couple of weeks, and the health officials traced it back to a church...

The irony is that the megachurch is anti-vaccine.


That's not ironic. It's simply the inevitable consequence of the anti-vax idea. Tell people to stop getting vaccines, and the diseases that those vaccines prevent will reappear.

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 10:19:22 PM   
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Until you can control who you spread the disease to, vaccines are not a personal choice.


That's a little dramatic. Of course they are... Look at all the vaccines that they push, its not just measle or mumps. Big pharma is big business.


Do you think tetanus, polio, whooping cough, rubella, etc are just a walk in the park? These diseases are serious public health hazards that used to kill or disable large numbers of people (and still do in countries without effective vaccination programs).

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 10:27:23 PM   
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That's not ironic. It's simply the inevitable consequence of the anti-vax idea. Tell people to stop getting vaccines, and the diseases that those vaccines prevent will reappear.


It is ironic because they felt they didnt need the vaccines to prevent illness... they believed the vaccines caused illnesses.

Instead, they caught an illness because they werent vaccinated.

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RE: Irony - 8/28/2013 10:36:51 PM   
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And if someone refuses a vaccine for HPV, what right do you or the government have to cram it down their throat anyway? Its about personal choice... what I find a little ironic is a group based on personal choice and lifestyle being so not for personal choice. Lol.

Before I get slammed Ill reiterate again for the hearing impaired... I'm not anti vaccine but I am selective. Do I feel in order to enroll into public school children should be vaccinated, sure. If a parent chooses to not immunize, thats on them as their child is taking the greatest risk. They're little germ carriers! But to permit a government requiring vaccines is an incredibly scary thought to me and thats not control I'm interested in losing.


"The government" isn't forcing you to get any vaccines. If you don't want your children to get certain vaccines, you can home-school them. If you don't want to get certain vaccines, just don't work in jobs that require them (teacher, nurse, etc).

And let me put something out there for you to think about.

Polio still exists and disables people. There is ONE reason for this: some people in a few third-world countries have refused or been unable to get the vaccine. Those people keep spreading it around. If the governments of those countries had forced everyone to get vaccinated, polio would be extinct.

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