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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/1/2013 5:01:06 PM   
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Actually, groups of people have a right to exist under international law. If someone say's "it is racist that a white person only wants to be with white people", the person saying that is "racist", in a very real sense could be arrested and tried under international law with the crime of genocide or conspiracy to commit genocide, as "creating living conditions that contribute to the destruction in part or in whole of a group of people, is an act of genocide".


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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 5:22:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		A CM friend has told me she has been racially abused by PM, but I've never seen any racist views or comments on the forums. I would think Admin would stomp on them pretty sharpish anyway.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 5:37:20 AM   
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In her profile she states she is a FinDomme which could be part of her problem.



If I had to guess, I would say her problem is not enough hits on her profile and she thought starting a thread might generate a few more.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 7:07:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		freedomwarf1 I hate that this is the only thing used to condone racism- a word. Like this example exempts those who are racist. Let's be clear the definition of racism is, "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior." It is a belief not merely a use of a word. However if you believe you are superior than another and use words as a way to express that belief...then it is racist.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 7:14:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some believe, that non whites can't be racist, because they don't have the power to impose their will on another race. They will admit to being bigoted, though. Semantics?

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 7:23:28 AM   
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Some believe, that non whites can't be racist, because they don't have the power to impose their will on another race. They will admit to being bigoted, though. Semantics?


I tend to disagree with this ideology that non whites can't be racist they can and are. I know I am in so form or fashion. I think where there may be a difference is that some non whites believe that if you are white and racist you also have the power to discriminate and be prejudice. Meaning, the power to deny someone a job, to not serve someone in a store, and etc...many non whites have been conditioned to believe they are "the minority," or less than therefore when a white person IS racist the implications and the impact of it is much more powerful.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 7:54:09 AM   
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freedomwarf1 I hate that this is the only thing used to condone racism- a word. Like this example exempts those who are racist. Let's be clear the definition of racism is, "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior." It is a belief not merely a use of a word. However if you believe you are superior than another and use words as a way to express that belief...then it is racist.

Regardless of the legal definition, it's how the law and the courts interpret it.
And for the most part, it's the words being used that land people in court.

As in my examples - most of the racism is a 1-way street.
It's mainly applied when a white uses it against a non-white person.

Let's expand that slightly...
Two equally-qualified people go for the same job.
If the white person doesn't get it - it's tough luck. Better luck next time mate.
If the black person doesn't get it, many of them pull the racist card - and win!!!

**Two guys walking the street.
Both get found to have equal drugs and a knife.
The white man gets the knife confiscated and he's prosecuted for carrying a weapon.
He's also fined £100 for the drugs and gets a 6 month community order.
The black man claims his religion allows him to carry the knife - he's let off.
He gets the same fine and conviction for the drugs.
But he claims he was pulled on racist grounds and gets the sentence quoshed and the fined reduced to £20.

Where's the justice???
I've seen it many times - for real and in the media.

** This is a personal case - so don't tell me it didn't happen.
This was a case with my son and his coloured friend.
Both in the same court at the same time with the same judges.


You can apply that to many other situations across the spectrum.
The blacks pull the racist card and in many cases they win an appeal/conviction.
Seen it too many times for it to be a coincidence.


Racism is a two-faced bitch!

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 8:37:22 AM   
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A CM friend has told me she has been racially abused by PM, but I've never seen any racist views or comments on the forums. I would think Admin would stomp on them pretty sharpish anyway.


Yes, we would. Please use the Report Post feature if you see any.

ETA - additionally, racial/ethnic/religious slurs are not permitted under any circumstances, included, but not limited to:
- when they are not directed at anyone in particular
- when used in jest
- when partially redacted

Consequently, a number of posts have been removed from this thread.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 10:22:46 AM   
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Some believe, that non whites can't be racist, because they don't have the power to impose their will on another race. They will admit to being bigoted, though. Semantics?


I would agree that there's some semantics and wordsmithing taking place. If racism necessarily entails having the power to impose one's will on another race, then that's at the level of government and public policy, not the average person who wouldn't have such power.

Maybe there's two types of racism at work here. There's official policy and government level racism, and then there's street-level racism which might take place between ordinary citizens of different races. It's not just "white vs. black," but every race vs. every other race. Blacks vs. Hispanics, Asians vs. Hispanics, Asians vs. Blacks, Hispanics vs. Anglos, etc.

Individual nationalities may also go at each other. If two white nationalities hate each other, then is that called "racism" or what? Nationalism? Bigotry? Prejudice? Are these any different from racism? Is it considered less immoral to be bigoted than racist, and if so, why? What about conflicts between religions? Religion is not the same as race, but still, it's the same idea of wanting to impose one's will (even to the point of violence or murder) on someone just because of who and what they are.

Over the course of my lifetime, I've found discussions about race relations to be lacking in rationality or any objective reasoning. It's too emotionally charged at both ends of the spectrum. The voices of reason tend to get drowned out. It doesn't mean that they don't exist, but they just don't seem to be very prominent in the discussion.


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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 10:44:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		freedomwarf1 First I believe the race card is useful not always but useful. I cannot speak for your experiences. Sounds like from your point of view it was not fair. I would like to give you something to look at and read before you comment about who has it better than another: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/28/these-seven-charts-show-the-black-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/. This is a comparison for black and whites. Do I believe racism has something to do with this? Maybe. Watch this video: https://www.upworthy.com/one-easy-thing-all-white-people-could-do-that-would-make-the-world-a-better-place-5?c=cc2 This should help you understand real racism.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/2/2013 11:15:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		From my PoV, I do genuinely believe that blacks and other non-white people tend to get the raw end of the shitty stick when it comes to racism in general.

That said, you so rarely hear of a white person claiming racism compared to the non-whites that pull that stunt.

My son's solicitor tried to appeal on the grounds that both were the same age, charged with the same offence(s), at the same time/place, yet received different sentences because of the race card played by the other solicitor. Guess what.... the appeal was sumarilly dismissed because it was not deemed to be a race/racist issue!  WTF??!?

So while my case made me very bitter about that particular incident, I still think the whites get a better deal on the whole than other races.

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 8:49:31 AM   
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I have been on here for some years and I think I do not remember anyone here being racist towards me! Now I have been in words fight and
everyone knows I am black and they never said the "n" word to me ever and I found that many do not like anyone who is "paid" and or someone who
uses people in the wrong way!!

Some of us like it in different ways, colors and shapes, but racism not here! If someone has said something wrong towards you, you can go back and bring it up the whole quote, right everyone!

Show it and they will stand up and say whether it is wrong or not! Speak your mind this is where you can say what you feel and still be respected!

I could not write in a clear manner before, someone taught me how to write and I have my share of people not understanding me! Now, well I feel so good to be able to
be understood and heard!

Toucan, what in the world are you writing about? Who has done this action? Oh gosh I just read what you had written?

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 2:46:08 PM   
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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 3:00:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen some racist posts and comments. A lot of the comments are veiled so not to appear blatantly racist but they are there all the same. Disguised as "opinion" and what have you. There are also those who swear to god that they aren't racist and are unaware that the comments they make do indeed show them as racists. Sometimes it is ingrained in a person that they think their racist views and thoughts are normal but in fact they are not.


Just because someone feels some racism going on does not make them crazy or not know what they are talking about. Start a discussion and elaborate for what? For others to shout from the rooftops that everything is cool and hunky dorey? That the OP is just imagining things or/is being overly sensitive and not of thick skin, drumming up business, nothing but a filthy Fin Domme deserving of abuse, etc. Yeah right.

Yes, and this is all I am going to say on the subject. Know why? Because I will not be coming back to this thread. That is why.


Carry on............

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 3:02:42 PM   
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I've been apart (so....you've been separated from this?) of a lot of BDSM/fetish websites over the years, and I've never encountered such the ("the" is redundant in this example....not needed) blunt, random racism at other sites (comma) like I have on ("on" is redundant in this example....not needed) here. (Paragraph) What the fuck!


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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 3:04:42 PM   
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A CM friend has told me she has been racially abused by PM, but I've never seen any racist views or comments on the forums. I would think Admin would stomp on them pretty sharpish anyway.


Not if they were Norwegians.

Norwegians are well known for letting that kind of shit slip.

(It's a known fact).

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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 3:05:46 PM   
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Some believe, that non whites can't be racist, because they don't have the power to impose their will on another race. They will admit to being bigoted, though. Semantics?


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RE: What's with all the racism on here? - 9/3/2013 4:41:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		i havent been here long enough to see any racism on here...never heard of it on here btw

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