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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 2:32:08 PM   
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and this is yet another place where the US needs to come out of the Victorian period of history.

I can't say that I "approve" of a lot of things a lot of people do but as long as it's not in my face or in front of anyone's children, what the fuck should I care?

True enough, there are some people who may seem to be engaging in a D/s relationship when, in fact, they are in an abusive relationship. There's where we run into trouble.

Too many do-gooders want to poke their big bazzoo into other peoples' issues. I can sort of identify. I am something of a do-gooder, myself but my best friend gave me some advice, years ago, that haunts me, whenever I get in gear and decide I'm going to make someone else's life better.

She said: "Michael, before you run out the door to save the world, make sure it wants to be saved?"

Truer words have never been spoken.



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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 2:40:34 PM   
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I'm SO with you there Michael. One of the things I love about my new adopted country is that they "get it" that consensual SM exists... not completely but at least in domestic law they do.

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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 2:50:11 PM   
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Yes, it's something along those lines and you are right, the kids come first, always. They are lucky I love them more then sex! LOL


I guess I don't understand. The kids absolutely come first... but there's a real possibility they could find out, and it would embarass them. Your Master comes first...because you're uncomfortable with what you're doing but still not "nagging", even though you're concerned and he's "blowing you off". What you're doing makes you feel good... except that you're conflicted enough to start a thread about it. I'd say your feelings are mixed, at best.

Only one can come first. Unless you're doing something unethical, I don't think it much matters which. You obviously love your kids. You obviously love your master. But their needs are in conflict, forcing you to make a choice in this situation.

It is okay to choose your needs, or your master's needs, over your kids this time. It doesn't make you less of a mother. It doesn't mean you love them any less. It also doesn't make you less of a friend (or daughter, etc.) if by some chance your aquaintances find out. They will probably live. If your job's in jeopardy that's something to consider. Depending on your dynamic, it may also be okay for you to choose your kid's needs (or your needs, as the case may be) over everyone else's this time. If your objection is that strong, you should do what you feel is right. What it sounds like is you resent having to choose at all, and I'm afraid that's just life.

Choose one or the other but you must make a choice, and then be prepared to live with the consequences.


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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 5:19:26 PM   
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In other words, I am both a typical soccer mom and an owned submissive in a BDSM style relationship.


Were you under the impression that the rest of us live our lives dressed in leather, chained up with a big ole dog collar around our necks?

Most of us appear perfectly middle class vanilla to those who don't know. Other than an undercurrent of who is the leader in the relationship, there is absolutely no reason for those two worlds to "mix together", unless you do something to cause that to happen.

What happens in your sex life and the basis of your relationship dynamic is no one else's business. (And I feel that way, whether it's vanilla or kinky)


Besides, which, how in the hell do you know that the prim and proper Soccer Mom sitting next to you isn't stuff plum full of anal beads?

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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 5:24:48 PM   
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What I have been doing in and of itself doesn't make me feel bad. As a matter of fact I really get off on it which is part of the problem as there is a huge stigma attached to it. I do feel like he has blown off my feelings a little bit but I don't want to nag (a big no no in my house).


Uh, this sounds like you're willing to call off a relationship due to something. I'd rather get nagged about something than have a relationship broken.

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RE: Torn in two directions - 8/29/2013 5:42:53 PM   
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Uh, this sounds like you're willing to call off a relationship due to something. I'd rather get nagged about something than have a relationship broken.

ROFL... uh... yeah and I'd rather stub a toe than get hit by a freight train too. :)

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RE: Torn in two directions - 9/2/2013 7:53:06 AM   
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Thanks for all the advise and comments everyone. I'm still torn inside but I did get the courage to let my boyfriend know how I felt again and he said we should talk more about things once he thinks things over and can brainstorm a plan so keep my fears in mind. I guess it's a start but I didn't want anyone to feel like I had blown off your effort to help.

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RE: Torn in two directions - 9/2/2013 10:20:34 AM   
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If he doesn't have children, or has never been a single father with custody (which can be tenuous) he may not understand. You *might* have to call your safeword here in order to protect the custody of the children.

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RE: Torn in two directions - 9/2/2013 5:47:02 PM   
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I can't tell entirely from the OP whether the concerns are if someone found out her kids could be negatively affected (other people making fun of a 'weird' mom, or the scary thought of the douchebags they often have in children's services).

I can't speak for everyone, but there is always an element when you are different of fearing other people's reactions. It can be hard at times to reconcile the various facets we have in us, we are for example those middle class, soccer mom/dad parents, doing so much for our kids, and trying to get along in jobs and so forth....and then we have our other parts, the one that can be tied up and getting a vicious flogging, or getting all our holes filled up in a gangbang, the one that can dress up all slutty and doing all kinds of things...and we know this isn't what is 'acceptable' out there, and it causes conflict. My therapist (who was/is a scene person), said you can feel like you have a letter K on your forehead that tells everyone else "look, there goes a kinky bitch", it is self consciousness about being different.

Then, too, the same person the prior night who is getting heavy stuff done to her, the next day is singing a kid to bed at night, or is looking at a skinned knee or attending a parent/teacher conference...and it is like "how can I be these two people".

The answer is what my therapist told me, we all have roles, where we can be quite different. My therapist was a grandmother, mother of 4 kids, a caring therapist helping people through all kinds of shit, and yet she also could be out there at night finding some sweet young thing to corrupt....


The answer is those are all us, and it is perfectly fine, that the slut in the spike heels and mini skirt wearing person can be a guy talking about football with the guys in the office, it simply means we are all complex people.

I also understand fears of kids, even when they are grow up it is very uncomfortable to deal with sex and sexuality. My therapist had standing orders that if she suddenly passed away, she had a friend who would clean out her place before her kids got there, to get rid of certain things.....:).And yeah, parent sexuality is uncomfortable, but in reality all I can say is kids tend to look at us with the way we treated them, and even if they somehow found out mom was kinky or whatever, they will remember the other part:).

I am not saying don't be concerned about issues that could happen to the kids when they are living with you, it is prudent to try and keep it away from them and also to make sure it won't come out in a bad way, and I understand that feeling, been through it. I was there doubly so, having a relatively young son and transitioning, plus being into BD/SM, and one thing I can tell you is while it is wise to be cautious, a lot of the fears are well beyond the reality IME. Not saying throw caution to the wind, only telling you that a lot of the fears are our own self consciousness and such playing with our emotions, understandable, and it would be a pretty shitty mother or father who didn't think of the kids and the impact...but you also are a human being, and we sacrifice so much for our kids, but that doesn't mean we don't have our own needs and such> The kids come first, but that doesn't mean that in every instance of every time it is parents 0, kids everything:). You have to live too, and as long as what you are doing isn't foolishly impacting your kids, it is okay that your needs sometime take the front position. It probably won't be that many times, and it will be more than balanced out by everything else you probably do......

I am glad you are talking to your BF, the fact that you care means you are a good mom. My therapist always said you could tell a rotten parent, good parents are the ones who worry constantly if they are doing the right thing, they agonize, while the rotten ones are usually the ones who think they are great parents:)

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RE: Torn in two directions - 9/9/2013 11:02:55 AM   
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njlauren,

Thank's for the compliment cause I must be the worlds best mom since I worry about my kids constantly! LOL

Things are better. Again thanks everyone for listening and offering some non-judgmental advice! Unlike the crap that filled my mail box.

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