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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 8/31/2013 8:55:09 AM   
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Risk . . . "destructive direction" . . . ever heard of safe sex practices??? How can sharing passion, or sex, or orgasms be disregard or disrespect to your body? Orgasms are good, clinically proven even.

As far as sleeping with a hundred people, you better up that number considerably. I ain't no virgin or some prude. If you count the 70s, tack 1,000 or 1,500 onto your best guess because I was a performer in the music industry and we were all a loose bunch. Having sex with a couple of Master's female friends at a party . . . how is that the path to destruction?



Is this a serious question truly?

For me it is not about safe sex practices. I was only answering the extent I have for strange. The answer is zero. Its just a life code I live by.


So the "risk" and all that "destructive" talk are in reference to your happily married mental state, not physical health risks? Somehow it reads differently to me. My bad.

I'm not selling hedonism. I think it is a matter of personal perspectives. I am mainly relationship motivated, chasing strange tail is not a thrill for me. I was in my thirties when I realized I couldn't fuck all the women in the world because there was a new one born every 8 seconds. However, if hedonistic pleasures jump in my lamp, like the party situation I mentioned, I will partake or let my girl enjoy some human pleasures.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 8/31/2013 10:45:57 AM   
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Risk . . . "destructive direction" . . . ever heard of safe sex practices??? How can sharing passion, or sex, or orgasms be disregard or disrespect to your body? Orgasms are good, clinically proven even.

As far as sleeping with a hundred people, you better up that number considerably. I ain't no virgin or some prude. If you count the 70s, tack 1,000 or 1,500 onto your best guess because I was a performer in the music industry and we were all a loose bunch. Having sex with a couple of Master's female friends at a party . . . how is that the path to destruction?


That actually raises a good question about this scenario and to me, reading the other posts and looking at my own thoughts and feelings, a lot of this comes down to what levels of risk the dominant and sub have, the levels of trust, and so forth.

In the example RS gave, he was right there, and if his girl had freaked out, or he didn't like what the people were doing, he could stop it, the same way at a play party if he 'gave' his sub to another person to play with, he could stop it, if he saw the guy was a jerk or his sub was in trouble (and I would assume that had his sub totally freaked at the idea of being used by others, he would not have gone on). The key to me is that the dom and sub have trust enough that the sub knows they will be protected and more importantly, that the sub will protect themselves however the dom wanted them to.

For example, a friend of mine had a female slave she would lend out to male friends (her s was female, lesbian mostly, but occassionally liked to get fucked). She got pissed off when her s was given to a friend of hers, and they had sex without condoms, which was a guideline, and there was a serious breach there..and i can't blame my friend for being pissed.

Or as with Jeff and his Carol, he talks about she is so sub that she can be easily be made to do things (if I read it correctly) by someone who is her dominant.....and if that is the case, if a D 'borrows' or 'buys' someone's s and is with them out of the dom's sight, how does the dom protect them from being used in ways they don't want? Obviously, if a D tells an s there are boundaries (for example, they can play, and she could do a hand job or a blow job, but no vaginal or anal sex) you hope they follow them, but if you have someone like Jeff's Carol who tends to be so sub, they may 'forget' about that bound, and what do you do then? (and I don't have any answers, I bring it up as a question).

The key thing is obviously trusting the person you are giving them to. If it is a stranger at a play party, you are there as the D, plus DM's and such, to make sure it doesn't get out of hand...but if it is remote, there are issues. As others have said, including Jeff, it would have to be someone you know and trust, because someone could see a deep sub, and get tempted, because they are so malleable, and depending on the the s to say no is not always such a great answer. From a personal standpoint, I would suggest that unless the s was being lent out to someone they implicitly trusted (I agree with Jeff totally on that one,it should be), that that a safeword be applied to that situatuon, even though with a deep sub a safeword may not work, if they get into deep subspace they could forget about it and as others have pointed out, it is not absolute).

The fantasy of that is a common one for subs IME, and it is understandable, but the reality poses a lot of questions, and I suspect it is why a lot of people might fantasize about this but never do it. Of all the scenarios, lending someone out/allowing them to play with others at a public or private play party where the D is present to me isn't a big deal, the real situation is where the D doesn't have control over it.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 8/31/2013 11:29:51 AM   
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I'm curious RS if you would have handed over your car keys to those three or four women that you handed her over to.
For me, if he doesn't value me above his car or any material possession, then I'm not someone compatible for that relationship.



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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/1/2013 7:57:37 PM   
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Lmao. Yes Master would have loaned his car to at least 2 of the women that were between my legs. One of the reasons Master and i are such a good match is that I am a slut and He loves that about me. I was a bit nervous at first bc it was a new experience for me. That much attention focused on my girly parts. It was hot. I would never have done such a thing without Him there. But knowing He approved allowed me to relax and go with the flow.

Master also loaned me to a friend to practice artistic cutting on during a class at Beyond Leather in April. He knew it was a new experience for me. He also knew Her very well. I didnt bat an eye when He volunteered me to be Her victim. I know and trust that He would not allow any real harm to come to me. I am His property. He is responsible for me and takes that seriously. So if He trusts another with His property then so do I.

Master could lend me to another without worry. He would have a trust in them and also me. If He set limits I would stick to those even if the other person didnt. Master does allow me to go visit the couple I was serving when I met Him. My only limit is no permanent marks. I don't go often but we play hard when I do.

I guess you could say I also crave strange in my life. But I want to share it with Master. I am bi and love pussy. I crave that. I also crave being a family and having a sister. I do not crave other men or dominants at all. I also crave new experiences. But these I will get for
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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/1/2013 8:35:07 PM   
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I do apologize for typos but I am using my phone and don't have time to proof for errors.

I personally would worry less about Master loaning me to a friend than I would His car or money. He values me more than any material thing so He would have to really trust them. He is mostly an easy going guy and if someone broke His car He would be like oh well shit happens. I'll get another. Same with money. I'd they didnt pay it back just don't trust them again.

Also if it was me that he was loaning to someone I would be there to protect His interests. If at any time I felt unsafe I could leave. I wouldn't have to worry about being punished or disappointing Him. He would be proud of me for protecting His property. And God himself wouldn't be able to protect anyone that tried to stop me from leaving somewhere I felt I was in danger.



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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/15/2013 6:01:03 AM   
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I do apologize for typos but I am using my phone and don't have time to proof for errors.

I personally would worry less about Master loaning me to a friend than I would His car or money. He values me more than any material thing so He would have to really trust them. He is mostly an easy going guy and if someone broke His car He would be like oh well shit happens. I'll get another. Same with money. I'd they didnt pay it back just don't trust them again.

Also if it was me that he was loaning to someone I would be there to protect His interests. If at any time I felt unsafe I could leave. I wouldn't have to worry about being punished or disappointing Him. He would be proud of me for protecting His property. And God himself wouldn't be able to protect anyone that tried to stop me from leaving somewhere I felt I was in danger.


I am sure that is an incorrect statement. For the rest I have no comment on, but that needed cleared up.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/15/2013 7:50:54 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/15/2013 8:08:59 AM   
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Why not suggest to your Dom that he find a half dozen men or women of his choosing to attend a party. Then have you displayed fully clothed and have a bidding or raffle and as the prize you. But within certain guidelines.

For instance the winner would be allowed to strip you and kiss and fondle… even give you a bath if desired in public of course. But there would be no penetration. Licking and nibbling would be permitted you would be required to masturbate if asked and the winner could rub their genitals against you.

The winner could allow others to fondle you but would be in complete control of the scene.

If you wanted to go a little further then allow the winner to masturbate and shoot a load on your breasts... or even let all who participate cover your breasts in semen.

Harmless but erotic.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/15/2013 1:51:15 PM   
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FR,

I have zero interest in "strange" or new.

[My] Master has zero interest in sharing me.

win-win!



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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/15/2013 3:59:58 PM   
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I would not want a sub/slave who did not feel so utterly pair-bonded to me that he had any desire to ever be used or touched by another, nor for him to have no issue with sharing me with another man. In my book, fidelity in its myriad forms equates to loyalty. As for me, I don't even want strange while I'm between partners and normally choose to remain celibate rather than have a casual, meaningless encounter.

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No. Personally, I have zero interest in being handed over to strangers--or to anyone, really. The idea of anyone but my Master "using" me is incredibly unappealing to me, and even just the idea that he would allow or want anything like that is nothing short of hurtful. He is possessive and protective of me, in a way that makes me feel very secure and valued; those feelings would shatter if he were to all the sudden have no issue with others having me.

Thankfully, he and I are on the same page with this. He has no interest in and would never lend me out or hand me over to someone else.




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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/16/2013 8:02:58 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.


If I offended you, I apologize. It didn't matter to me who's slave I was addressing.
It is not a religious perspective, it is a God perspective, to correct that.
There was no violence associated with my statement, there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns, is what I meant.
No harm intended.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/18/2013 6:01:06 AM   
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Nor did I mean to offend. To me its just a saying.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 12:02:35 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.


If I offended you, I apologize. It didn't matter to me who's slave I was addressing.
It is not a religious perspective, it is a God perspective, to correct that.
There was no violence associated with my statement, there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns, is what I meant.
No harm intended.

No offense given or taken . . . I was only pointing out that it is a matter of faith no matter which God you pray to. It is also a matter of opinion that "there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns" . . . are you are talking about martial arts not divine intervention? I trained in martial arts and gun combat. Being familiar with both, I have more faith in Smith & Wesson than martial arts to save my ass in combat. If you are talking about some divine spiritual stuff, I still have more faith in Smith & Wesson to help me "leave somewhere I felt I was in danger" and someone was "trying to stop me".

The reason I pointed out that it was my girl is because she is always armed where many others on these forums aren't. So the perspective value of God's powers with another whom is unarmed and unable to overpower an aggressor is more valuable than to some one packed, loaded and trained to handle it.

Since we came this far, please explain what power God has that goes beyond guns and will help you against an aggressor trying to prevent you from leaving a situation in which your life is in danger?

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 1:02:27 AM   
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I have no interest in 'loaning' out my partner.
But when I were with my ex, two dominant males asked if they could 'borrow' her.
She might have agreed, perhaps with some hesitation, since she's poly. But I declined those suggestions on the spot.
One of them tried to talk me into the idea anyhow, saying how well trained she might become. And I lol'd quietly inside - he had no clue how submissive she were at home.
But yes, it's not for me since I happen to be very monogamous and borrowing the term from Tigresslily, very much "pair-bonded".

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 1:23:23 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.


If I offended you, I apologize. It didn't matter to me who's slave I was addressing.
It is not a religious perspective, it is a God perspective, to correct that.
There was no violence associated with my statement, there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns, is what I meant.
No harm intended.

No offense given or taken . . . I was only pointing out that it is a matter of faith no matter which God you pray to. It is also a matter of opinion that "there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns" . . . are you are talking about martial arts not divine intervention? I trained in martial arts and gun combat. Being familiar with both, I have more faith in Smith & Wesson than martial arts to save my ass in combat. If you are talking about some divine spiritual stuff, I still have more faith in Smith & Wesson to help me "leave somewhere I felt I was in danger" and someone was "trying to stop me".

The reason I pointed out that it was my girl is because she is always armed where many others on these forums aren't. So the perspective value of God's powers with another whom is unarmed and unable to overpower an aggressor is more valuable than to some one packed, loaded and trained to handle it.

Since we came this far, please explain what power God has that goes beyond guns and will help you against an aggressor trying to prevent you from leaving a situation in which your life is in danger?


Yes I am speaking of divine intervention. All kinds of different scenerios can take place to change a situation where one has a false sense of security with a gun or other means. It is good to protect ones self, I am not saying that. But when someones time is up it is up, nothing can change it. Its much like taking a butter knife to a gun fight when one is speaking of predetermined events based on an individuals choices through time. One has to be a believer in the truth in that, if one isn't a believer, well it sounds like utter nonsense to you.
I cant explain the power, it just is, it manifests anyway God sees fit and if he sees fit.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 4:46:19 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.

If I offended you, I apologize. It didn't matter to me who's slave I was addressing.
It is not a religious perspective, it is a God perspective, to correct that.
There was no violence associated with my statement, there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns, is what I meant.
No harm intended.

No offense given or taken . . . I was only pointing out that it is a matter of faith no matter which God you pray to. It is also a matter of opinion that "there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns" . . . are you are talking about martial arts not divine intervention? I trained in martial arts and gun combat. Being familiar with both, I have more faith in Smith & Wesson than martial arts to save my ass in combat. If you are talking about some divine spiritual stuff, I still have more faith in Smith & Wesson to help me "leave somewhere I felt I was in danger" and someone was "trying to stop me".

The reason I pointed out that it was my girl is because she is always armed where many others on these forums aren't. So the perspective value of God's powers with another whom is unarmed and unable to overpower an aggressor is more valuable than to some one packed, loaded and trained to handle it.

Since we came this far, please explain what power God has that goes beyond guns and will help you against an aggressor trying to prevent you from leaving a situation in which your life is in danger?

Yes I am speaking of divine intervention. All kinds of different scenerios can take place to change a situation where one has a false sense of security with a gun or other means. It is good to protect ones self, I am not saying that. But when someones time is up it is up, nothing can change it. Its much like taking a butter knife to a gun fight when one is speaking of predetermined events based on an individuals choices through time. One has to be a believer in the truth in that, if one isn't a believer, well it sounds like utter nonsense to you.
I cant explain the power, it just is, it manifests anyway God sees fit and if he sees fit.

OK, you're talking about a predestine fate controlled by a God coupled with divine intervention. Thank you for explaining the 'when your time is up' aspect. I was trying think of how you meant it and pictured someone stopping to pray for help or a Jehovah's Witness pelting their attacker with those pamphlets. I'll accept that most believe in predestine fate no matter which Gods or Goddesses they pray to. But, lets say that everything in all the religious texts are true and that God is here all around us. I still believe that if you send two people into a room to fight to the death, one is armed with God and the other with Smith & Wesson, I'll be betting on the one with the gun to survive.

I feel different than you and believe fate is what you make it, no divine intervention for me. My destiny is a result of my choices. No one can take responsibility for my outcome other than me. And this relates back to the part about letting friends play with my slave. Those friends are like minded. They are responsible people that also believe they are accountable for their own actions. This is why I had no fear letting my slave play with them or letting them play with her . . . and yes, to answer other replies, I had given money to one of them when they needed it. If they needed my car, I would have let them have that too.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 5:20:07 AM   
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I did this with Brad because he wished it...it was erotic at the time. He knew the three guys and the women well and they had all played well together before me. Though it had been a fantasy of mine I would not do it again. One of the guys has actual become my BFF after Brads death and he agrees also he would never do it again. I would say if there is a little voice in your head with any doubt at all....listen to it because what happens will become more than a little voice in your head....and will keep repeating itself the rest of your life.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/26/2013 10:04:23 AM   
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I think you forget who's slave we are talking about here. She is smart, well armed, well trained and has a very high level of situational awareness. Even if God was handing out bulletproof vests to her potential her abductors, it wouldn't save them from a head shot.

So lemme' just review this because your religious perspectives seem a bit skewed. It seems like you are saying that having God on your side verses a pissed off slave in fear for her life and armed with two 357 magnums is hands down in favor of God. Um . . . I beg to differ.

If I offended you, I apologize. It didn't matter to me who's slave I was addressing.
It is not a religious perspective, it is a God perspective, to correct that.
There was no violence associated with my statement, there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns, is what I meant.
No harm intended.

No offense given or taken . . . I was only pointing out that it is a matter of faith no matter which God you pray to. It is also a matter of opinion that "there is power beyond guns, way beyond guns" . . . are you are talking about martial arts not divine intervention? I trained in martial arts and gun combat. Being familiar with both, I have more faith in Smith & Wesson than martial arts to save my ass in combat. If you are talking about some divine spiritual stuff, I still have more faith in Smith & Wesson to help me "leave somewhere I felt I was in danger" and someone was "trying to stop me".

The reason I pointed out that it was my girl is because she is always armed where many others on these forums aren't. So the perspective value of God's powers with another whom is unarmed and unable to overpower an aggressor is more valuable than to some one packed, loaded and trained to handle it.

Since we came this far, please explain what power God has that goes beyond guns and will help you against an aggressor trying to prevent you from leaving a situation in which your life is in danger?

Yes I am speaking of divine intervention. All kinds of different scenerios can take place to change a situation where one has a false sense of security with a gun or other means. It is good to protect ones self, I am not saying that. But when someones time is up it is up, nothing can change it. Its much like taking a butter knife to a gun fight when one is speaking of predetermined events based on an individuals choices through time. One has to be a believer in the truth in that, if one isn't a believer, well it sounds like utter nonsense to you.
I cant explain the power, it just is, it manifests anyway God sees fit and if he sees fit.

OK, you're talking about a predestine fate controlled by a God coupled with divine intervention. Thank you for explaining the 'when your time is up' aspect. I was trying think of how you meant it and pictured someone stopping to pray for help or a Jehovah's Witness pelting their attacker with those pamphlets. I'll accept that most believe in predestine fate no matter which Gods or Goddesses they pray to. But, lets say that everything in all the religious texts are true and that God is here all around us. I still believe that if you send two people into a room to fight to the death, one is armed with God and the other with Smith & Wesson, I'll be betting on the one with the gun to survive.

I feel different than you and believe fate is what you make it, no divine intervention for me. My destiny is a result of my choices. No one can take responsibility for my outcome other than me. And this relates back to the part about letting friends play with my slave. Those friends are like minded. They are responsible people that also believe they are accountable for their own actions. This is why I had no fear letting my slave play with them or letting them play with her . . . and yes, to answer other replies, I had given money to one of them when they needed it. If they needed my car, I would have let them have that too.


The bolded part is really us believing the same thing. We have free will, and therefore we are responsible for our outcomes. We are given a few choices, A, B or C and by those choices we influence are destiny. Only difference I can see us disagreeing on One may bring divine intervention because of a poor choice or even a good choice. The predetermined comment is associated with the outcome of which path we choice, which all will have a different result. So I agree fate can be what one makes it.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/27/2013 8:10:32 PM   
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a bit of Strange Brew never goes astray, nor remains uncraved.

If folks are lazy they'll consider this a flippant micro-post.

If they listen to the lyrics of the song, by Cream, in accordance with the context of the thread,

they'll know that there will always be people with that certain wacky "something" that you'll encounter even when you think you've monogamously-got it "all sorted out" that awaken a certain part of you, sometimes only a creative or romantic part of you holding no eros at all.

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RE: To what extent would you crave a bit of 'strange' - 9/29/2013 6:49:29 AM   
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