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is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:03:41 PM   
kikim


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hi everyone,

i need at least an experienced mistress's advice, if not more, so please give me an opinion. i have little experience plus lots and lots of reading.
so the story is like that. i had no idea what this femdom and bdsm was all about, as in my country it's just very tabu and i was made to believe it's only for sick people. and then i met a guy, a wonderful person, intelligent, educated, well accomplished, everything i believed that people in this lifestyle are not. so we spent the most beautiful 2 days talking and talking and we didn't get a chance to do much but there was a real emotional connection and 100% honesty, at least on my side and he swears on his side too. he is a cuckold sissy, stuck in a vanilla relationship, craving for a mistress. he made me realize that life is not as i thought it was and now i am sure i am a dominant by nature, and was always trying to repress myself.
so, as his vanilla relationship has been going for more than 1 year, he keeps pleeding for my understanding that he can't end it because he is weak and can't break her heart and has to wait for the right moment or for her to dump him as he is a sissy and cannot please her (i really doubt that would ever happen if she still wants to have sex with him after more than 1 year).
i told him, as he told me also, that i have real feelings and that i want to be with him. oh, and he also lives in another country, not very close or easy to access for me... it's really hard for me to wait like that.
i also tried telling him to leave me alone and not contact me until he is free, he contacted me in 3 days again... i can't do this anymore, i really have no idea what to do, i don't want to put him on block either as i still hope he will call and give me the much expected news.
what do you think? could this be for real? i mean the connection was for real, but the rest? what would be your advice?
thank you in advance :)
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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:05:58 PM   
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I think BDSM is irrelevant here. He's just another guy who wants to cheat.

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:10:58 PM   
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1) Until you have met face to face, he is a complete stranger to you.

2) Why would you want to be with a man that would dump a woman to be with another woman? Why would you want to be with someone that lacks that amount of integrity?

3) I'm willing to bet he has no intention of leaving her and is enjoying the online wank sessions.

4) My advise is to tell him to leave you alone and block him if can't respect you enough to follow your wishes.

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:16:49 PM   
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1. we have met for real. that IS how we met in the first place.
2. he won't dump her, at least not that easy. but he would do it because he wants to be a cuck and she is only vanilla
3. no online wank sessions, we talk on the phone from time to time, normal chats abouw what we've been doing, how i am mostly, he always calls to see how i am and to tell me he misses me. so no sexual things were involved in this, none. except that we kissed when we were together. and we shared that intellectual emotional connection that is so rare...

< Message edited by kikim -- 8/30/2013 4:21:22 PM >

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:20:26 PM   
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yes, you may be right, except that no cheating was involved except a few kisses and hugs...
and calls since then, telling he misses me and he wants to be with me and asking me how i am, what have i been doing... normal things

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:22:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kikim

except that no cheating was involved except a few kisses and hugs...


You don't get to make that determination. It's up to the woman he is in a relationship with to determine whether she feels that is cheating or not. I'm willing to bet she would feel massively betrayed.


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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:30:30 PM   
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If you're into this guy, then why did you join the site four days ago looking for a 'sex slave'etc?

You look about as honest as him right now.



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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:30:52 PM   
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yeah, she probably would, but i care about what's in his mind, not hers... and he specifically told me he doesn't want to cheat her as it is not fair, this is probably one of the main reasons why nothing went any further than talking, and a few kisses and hugs

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:32:07 PM   
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i am into him but i am also trying to forget him on the other hand as it hurts too much to just wait :) i created this account maybe... 3-4 days ago?
and he is the one who actually told me everything about the femdom lifestyle means and how much he misses it

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:35:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kikim

yeah, she probably would, but i care about what's in his mind, not hers...


Well...then...how nice of you to not give a crap over allowing yourself to be the instrument in hurting another human being.......

Go for it. You probably deserve each other.




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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 4:37:59 PM   
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really, if he would be happier with me, as he is not happy with her, and i would be happy with him and she would then not be happy... i think 2 people happy and 1 not happy is better than 2 people unhappy for her partial happiness... it's just being realistic ;)

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 5:04:38 PM   
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You lack integrity.

May you get the submissive you deserve.

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 5:35:59 PM   
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He's in another country, and taken. get real, and look for someone who's available to you.

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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 5:36:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kikim "could this be for real?"

My, my, where to begin. Bravo on your first post; I'm a newcomer myself (not knowing how to do multiple quotes properly yet). MissKittyDeVine is so right--just another attached shlep looking to have his cake and eat it, too. There are all kinds of reasons why someone stays in an unhappy or unfulfilling marriage/relationship, not the least of which is socio-economic. (If there are children involved, then even more reason not to upset the apple cart.) From what you've described, this man isn't even married to his vanilla Significant Other he's "stuck" with and has only been with her for over a year. He's stringing you along, and you might not be the only iron he has in the fire either.

Honey, you sound like a young lady with your whole adult life ahead of you, so let me give you an important piece of advice. Face it, the general rule (albeit disputable) in long-term relationships is that women are ready to enter into them when they feel they have found the right man, but men enter into serious committed relationships based purely on timing. You could be his ideal woman but if he's not at the right place in his life, it won't happen. Think of the men you've known (or even celebrities you've only heard of) who have been engaged for years to one woman, but then turn around and suddenly get married, settle down, and have a child with a stranger out of nowhere (although not always in that sequence). It was his time to start a family.

Maybe it's this guy's time to either get his feet wet with his sissified cuckolding fantasies, or to find somebody to gratify those desires. That someone could be any sympathetic female. It just happens to be you right now that he's latched onto. What you're experiencing is so NOT REAL on so many levels. You are both located in different countries, so your never-fully-consummated fling became a remote phone-type affair of sorts where you are both feeding off of each other's fantasies or feelings of infatuation. Believe me, you are more emotionally invested in this pseudo-relationship than he is, no matter how desperate he sounds. You will discover in time there is no shortage of desperate submissives out there; they are a dime a dozen. (Not that there aren't Dominants who don't get desperate, but the D/s ratio is awfully disproportionate as it is.) Learn how to weed out the unworthy ones, like this guy seems to be. You are a relative newcomer into your Dominant Femaleness and are feeling a rush of power, but you cannot attribute this state of empowerment to any man, regardless of who he is. Your empowerment belongs to you and to you alone--it comes from within.

Take OsideGirl's sound advice. You are letting this man manipulate you and Top you from the bottom. He is not honoring your basic wishes; he is the one who is setting the conditions; and he continues to defy your clear-cut and reasonable instructions (choose between her & you)--what makes you think he would make a good sub? Your deserve much, much better, my dear.

< Message edited by TigressLily -- 8/30/2013 6:36:19 PM >


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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 8:52:59 PM   
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Let us know how it all works out. Relationships don't always follow an easy or conventional path.


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RE: is it for real? - 8/30/2013 9:01:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TigressLily

quote:

ORIGINAL: kikim "could this be for real?"

My, my, where to begin.


Once again, TL, right on the money. Gosh, I'm glad you joined the boards. It saves many of us so much typing!

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RE: is it for real? - 8/31/2013 1:30:18 AM   
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Thank you very much for your answer TigressLily, finally a reasonable piece of advice, that make sense. I did also realize that he is topping me from the bottom and i don't like that... anyway you do make a lot of sense in what you are saying, i was really confused between his words and my feelings... it's really hard though to get over it... good news is that i created this account and that i am trying. i still can't put him on block, i don't have the heart for it, but i really hope i find a sub to fit my desires and to have that connection which means so much to me

thank you again for taking the time to answer me and not just throw accusations that i lack integrity (which i think i do not) :)

< Message edited by kikim -- 8/31/2013 1:31:29 AM >

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RE: is it for real? - 8/31/2013 6:29:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kikim

hi everyone,

i need at least an experienced mistress's advice, if not more, so please give me an opinion. i have little experience plus lots and lots of reading.
so the story is like that. i had no idea what this femdom and bdsm was all about, as in my country it's just very tabu and i was made to believe it's only for sick people. and then i met a guy, a wonderful person, intelligent, educated, well accomplished, everything i believed that people in this lifestyle are not. so we spent the most beautiful 2 days talking and talking and we didn't get a chance to do much but there was a real emotional connection and 100% honesty, at least on my side and he swears on his side too. he is a cuckold sissy, stuck in a vanilla relationship, craving for a mistress. he made me realize that life is not as i thought it was and now i am sure i am a dominant by nature, and was always trying to repress myself.
so, as his vanilla relationship has been going for more than 1 year, he keeps pleeding for my understanding that he can't end it because he is weak and can't break her heart and has to wait for the right moment or for her to dump him as he is a sissy and cannot please her (i really doubt that would ever happen if she still wants to have sex with him after more than 1 year).
i told him, as he told me also, that i have real feelings and that i want to be with him. oh, and he also lives in another country, not very close or easy to access for me... it's really hard for me to wait like that.
i also tried telling him to leave me alone and not contact me until he is free, he contacted me in 3 days again... i can't do this anymore, i really have no idea what to do, i don't want to put him on block either as i still hope he will call and give me the much expected news.
what do you think? could this be for real? i mean the connection was for real, but the rest? what would be your advice?
thank you in advance :)



He has been lying to his girlfriend for a year now and yet you expect that he means everything he tells you? My advice would be to find someone who is local so you can actually play together and someone who hasn't already proved he is a liar. Now this won't guarantee success but it's better than sitting around waiting for this guy.

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RE: is it for real? - 8/31/2013 6:44:36 AM   
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quote:

I think BDSM is irrelevant here. He's just another guy who wants to cheat.


This ^

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RE: is it for real? - 8/31/2013 6:55:30 AM   
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quote:

en lying to his girlfriend for a year now and yet you expect that he means everything he tells you? My advice would be to find someone who is local so you can actually play together and someone who hasn't already proved he is a liar. Now this won't guarantee succ


thank you for your answer, but local is definitely not the choice, romanians are very narrowminded and even the ones who say they want to be slaves, have conditions and want to be slaves on their timing and their rules... so i am trying to find someone, i am willing to relocate, but definitely not a local :)

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