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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 4:21:13 PM   
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So would folks prefer that the President act without consulting Congress? Or not act at all?


Not act at all...provided the conflict stays within Syrian borders.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 5:44:28 PM   
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So would folks prefer that the President act without consulting Congress? Or not act at all?



I want us to stay the hell out of it, DC.

I'll be composing my letters to the California Senators tomorrow (for all the good they'll do with those two )

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 6:28:12 PM   
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Lest we forget this crap has been going on almost continually since the first Iraq war. The second Iraq war just opened the floodgates.


Even longer. Remember Grenada?

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 6:32:22 PM   
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I'll be composing my letters to the California Senators tomorrow (for all the good they'll do with those two )

At least you have senators to write to.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 6:33:23 PM   
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I think his actions are too much, too little too late.

President Obama has been all over the map throughout the entire "Arab Spring" movement and its after math and it seems, since he now seems like he was never willing to back it up, that his "line in the sand" about Syria's use of Chemical Weapons was of his worst mistakes as President.



So what the hell could he have done with any of the 'Arab Spring' situations, short of a general ramps-down invasion? (Been there, done that, got the sack cloth and ashes.) You Rightie foamers need to realize that there are limits to what any president can do in a mess like this, and he is, perforce, winging it with the best of 'em. So why don't you put your bigotry back in your pants and give Obama a little cred for trying to shovel against the tide, eh?

YOU couldn't do any better.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 6:37:22 PM   
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So would folks prefer that the President act without consulting Congress? Or not act at all?


Not act at all...provided the conflict stays within Syrian borders.


Thank you for re-posting this, Johnny.

I would prefer that we not use our miltary, at all, in a civil war, considering how well that's worked out for us in the past.

I would like to take this opportunity to do something that I don't think I've ever been able to do, before:

I would like to commend the president for the fact that he seems (and I stress that word because I know we've already had ground troops in Syria since my son was killed there) to be going about this next step in the crisis the correct, constitutional way.

For the first time that I can remember, he's acting more like a president than a monarch.



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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 6:59:19 PM   
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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.

I wonder if the President had any idea on what he was expected to do before he decided to derail Mrs Clinton from her Presidency???



President Says He Is Prepared to Order Military Action, but Wants Support First From Lawmakers


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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 7:09:58 PM   
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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.



No looking about it, he is.



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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 7:53:08 PM   
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At least you have senators to write to.



Yeah, but if I lived within a bus ride of the lobby, I'd make up for it... Until they banned me from the premises, anyway.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 8:15:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

So would folks prefer that the President act without consulting Congress? Or not act at all?


Not act at all...provided the conflict stays within Syrian borders.


Thank you for re-posting this, Johnny.

I would prefer that we not use our miltary, at all, in a civil war, considering how well that's worked out for us in the past.

I would like to take this opportunity to do something that I don't think I've ever been able to do, before:

I would like to commend the president for the fact that he seems (and I stress that word because I know we've already had ground troops in Syria since my son was killed there) to be going about this next step in the crisis the correct, constitutional way.

For the first time that I can remember, he's acting more like a president than a monarch.

Regards,

John Adams


You're welcome. And I'm sorry to hear about your son. You have my most sincere condolences.

I also agree with you that the President is taking the appropriate path by going to Congress. Whether he's required to or not shouldn't matter to anyone. The fact is that this decision is important enough to warrant the Congress having the opportunity to express their thoughts. This is how responsible leadership is done. But I'm only giving him 9 out of 10 since this also seems to have been a last minute thought instead of a modus operandi.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 8:37:16 PM   
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I'll be composing my letters to the California Senators tomorrow (for all the good they'll do with those two )

At least you have senators to write to.

It seems to me the Founding Fathers had something to say about being taxed without representation in the taxing body.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 10:50:10 PM   
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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.

I wonder if the President had any idea on what he was expected to do before he decided to derail Mrs Clinton from her Presidency???



President Says He Is Prepared to Order Military Action, but Wants Support First From Lawmakers

It's almost like someone's opinion changes based solely on opposing whatever the President does.

Less than 48 hours ago
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4533765/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4533970

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I think the United States really has no horse in this race and would be best served sitting it out or at best beefing up Israel's defenses. However,, should the President call a joint session of Congress and asked them to declare war, and should Congress vote to do so, I would firmily support the President and the war effort.





Well... is he calling for a joint session of Congress and asking them to declare war on Syria?


Please... speak right up?

I didn't think so.

If the President does that and the nation declares war, I shall support the war effort.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

However, the President isn't doing anything of the sort.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 10:55:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		so all those thinking that the united states should go over to Syria fantastic now join ur happy asses up in the military and go over there

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 10:59:50 PM   
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Well... is he calling for a joint session of Congress and asking them to declare war on Syria?
Please... speak right up?
I didn't think so.
If the President does that and the nation declares war, I shall support the war effort.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

However, the President isn't doing anything of the sort.
quote:



Apparently the House isn't doing anything of any sort since they refuse to cut their vacation short to address what's happening in Syria. "Thousands of people getting killed? OK, we'll get back to you on September 9th."

http://news.yahoo.com/house-members-will-not-return-early-to-debate-syria-attack-authorization-185043906.html

(edited to attempt to fix quote.)

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 11:02:01 PM   
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I'll be composing my letters to the California Senators tomorrow (for all the good they'll do with those two )

At least you have senators to write to.

It seems to me the Founding Fathers had something to say about being taxed without representation in the taxing body.



They also had something to say about creating a Capitol City. See Residence Act of 1790 and An Act Concerning the District of Columbia 1801.

Maryland would be more than willing to get her land back and the tax revenues that go with it though...and then Washington, MD would have it's voting members of Congress.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 11:51:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your condolences, Johnny.

On another subject that's popped up: People that live in New Jersey and work in NYC have been taxed for about 25 years in NYC. No one seems to be up in arms over that.



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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 11:57:06 PM   
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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.

I wonder if the President had any idea on what he was expected to do before he decided to derail Mrs Clinton from her Presidency???



President Says He Is Prepared to Order Military Action, but Wants Support First From Lawmakers

Just more unmitigated partisan bullshit. Better he lie through his teeth to the American people, get Kerry to lie to the UN like Bush and we send 500,000 troops hey ? I am sure it would be berry, berry profitable. The US is after Bush...a war economy now.

Who wants to join up and protect 'our' interests in Syria ? You all just still don't get it do you ? He's been told to intervene, so, he will intervene, Congress will vote it down, then they will vote for intervention.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 8/31/2013 11:58:16 PM   
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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.



No looking about it, he is.


Every president is an amateur.

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 9/1/2013 12:04:10 AM   
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Lest we forget this crap has been going on almost continually since the first Iraq war. The second Iraq war just opened the floodgates.


Even longer. Remember Grenada?


And...how about Reagan hitting Libya ? How about Bush hitting Panama ?

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RE: President Obama Looks to Congress Now On Syria - 9/1/2013 12:06:08 AM   
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Don't worry, Hillary Clinton will get her chance to be President, when she is elected President in 2016.

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Wow...he is all over the map!

He really looks like a amateur.

I wonder if the President had any idea on what he was expected to do before he decided to derail Mrs Clinton from her Presidency???



President Says He Is Prepared to Order Military Action, but Wants Support First From Lawmakers


.....and she will do what ALL presidents do, what they need to do...to stay alive.

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