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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 5:24:15 PM   
truesub4u


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Seeing others.. male or female... submitting.. doesn't bother me at all... and depending in what's going on... I find it to be erotic. Not in a sexual manner either... but it's not just submission.. it's the connection... seeing people happy with whom they are...and are with. 

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 5:26:57 PM   
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I would not want to watch a woman submit. I know that it happens, obviously, and I am fine with it in theory; I do not think there is anything wrong with it if the people are willing. I just would not want to physically see a woman in that position. I would not be uncomfortable seeing a man submit to another man, however.

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 5:48:44 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620
Is it odd for a submissive female/male to feel weird about seeing a person of the opposite sex submit?

It's fairly common.  "We" set up standards based on gender and then have trouble breaking out of those boxes.



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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 5:52:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620

I'm not feeling very creative this afternoon, so i didn't come up with a title.

Anyway, i wrote down this question last night while waiting for sleep to take me, and i didn't want to forget it; because in my own opinion, it's a pretty good question.

Is it odd for a submissive female/male to feel weird about seeing a person of the opposite sex submit?

THe same goes for dominant male/females. Is it odd to feel weird when they see someone of the opposite sex be dominant.

Note: this isn't how i'm feeling, just a general question i would like some feedback on.



At first, perhaps because I was just feeling out my own inner dominance and coming to grips with what that meant for me, I did feel uncomfortable seeing women in submission. It seemed so pat, so trite, so 1950s... (ain't it fun being that much of a know-it-all newbie?!?!)
But as I got more comfortable with my own sense of self, I started to enjoy watching powerexchange and submission/dominance regardless of who is doing it. I find things to enjoy in watching, things to learn... it's all just amazing for me.
Lynn

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 6:10:19 PM   
DoctorDubious


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

Some of us, and for sure that's me,   have zero "wiring" or desire to be a voyeur.



... how do you rectify the above statement with the fact that you list a 'love' of movies on your profile page? Aren't movie goers the ultimate voyeurs. ::chuckles::

I'm a huge voyeur .. I like watching damn near anything because if I can't participate myself, that's the next best thing ..  and I love going to the movies, so I'm just wondering how you can be so against voyeurism for yourself yet love movies.

Celeste


Hey Celeste,

The first thing to say is "touche"

That damnable profile of mine..... I wrote it fast just over the peak
of a manic rush of work and testosterone and arrogance and lust.

It's silly and pompous, conceited, lordly, pretentious.... arghhhh.

Every word is true, and heart-felt, but waaay too high-flying, ya know?

As for the click-boxes, I pushed a few wrong buttons there,
both on the screen... and elsewhere, if you follow my drift.

Along with the movie cock-up, it also says I like "dressing up as maids and butlers."
If you saw my desk now, peals of laughter would ring out, rightfully so.
Also, I suspect a white frilly apron isn't the best look for this shaven-headed 51 year old...

The name has gotta go too.  I kept it out of momentum, as DD has been
on Yahoo for almost a decade.... and in other corners of the internet as well.

I've had a remarkable amount of email from folks here who still think I'm a practicing
clinical psychologist, even though I "went legit" 20 years ago and started a tennis club.
Some from folks who feared I was here to analyze them,
and even worse... some were pleas for "help" from me.... a total stranger ... and a kinky one to boot!

In conclusion, C .... I say to you

Touche!

DD, for now


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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 7:05:14 PM   
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Nah...I see it more as you have a certain feeling of X, Y or Z and gender does not play a part in it. 

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 7:07:31 PM   
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I'm hangin with this girl.............


I..........................wanna soak up the sun..............


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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 6/30/2006 9:25:17 PM   
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Has never seemed weird to me at all.  I love sititng back in the dungeon and watching all of the different interactions.  I've never really given any thought to if it was a female dominant, a male sub, or a purple kangaroo.  Just watching the interaction tends to excite me and start my thoughts and energy flowing. 

K

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 7/1/2006 3:22:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mp072004

I'm bisexual, polyamorous, dominant, and my primary partner is a man who is also dominant. My head would probably explode if I found male dominants or female submissives weird.

However, I have known people who do seem to object to or feel uncomfortable with people of different genders taking on their roles. These people have uniformly been heterosexual, believers in innate, if not gender-defined predisposition to dominance or submission, and vehemently opposed to the idea that they would do anything that would not be consonant with the typical version of their roles. Most were male dominants or female submissives. Some were also very nice people.

Monica


Yep.  I'm one of those people.  Not necessarily nice, but I do have innate world views that include male-Dom female-sub as the norm.

But that's just me, I know there's a world of different possibilities out there.

And as for watching it happen - I WISH I could.  One of the reasons I joined here was to get into the public scene.  So until I do, and until I see all the great stuff happen that I'm longing to see, I can't answer the OP's questions.

But one day.... one day I'll find out if it really does seem weird or not.

Btw, you say 'weird' as if it's a BAD thing.  I find many things weird.  It's part of the fun of moving through life.

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 7/1/2006 4:04:56 AM   
vield


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It is very interesting how we try to make rules and roles for everyone even though we ourselves may not know everyone and all their needs, limits and desires. I have known a number of successful dom/dom or sub/sub partnerships that worked well as well as any dom/sub pairing.

My thought is that the energy flow between myself and another determines who is dom, who is sub. This will not translate the same way to other potential partners. My partner is my sub, but she is dominant to most others.  Our energy flows in our own pattern.

I attended a BD/SM gathering some years ago with the BD/SM family I was then part of. This consisted of A. myself, B. my Mistress, C. her Master, and D. our slavegirl. I am sure there was some confusion among onlookers, but we all were fine in this relationship. C was dominant to B and D, A was dom to D and sub to B, B was dom to A and sub to C, and D was sub to all of us. That is how the energy flowed.

I expect onlookers became even more confused when Mistress ordered me to paddle her ass well ( I am more skilled than her Master) at the dungeon party. LOL that was not our problem, we all knew and consented and enjoyed our time together.

vield 

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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 7/1/2006 9:51:54 AM   
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The energy flow and dynamics of power exchange is a turn on for me, regardless of the gender.  To witness this amazing act between two people that are comfortable in the roles is an erotic experience.  I think too much emphasis is placed on gender.

LOKI


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RE: Hmmmmmmmmmm - 7/1/2006 9:52:50 AM   
Brosco


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Not a turn-on ....  but certainly not uncomfortable.  There is a delight in seeing people who are happy with each other and the relationship they have established.

Brosco

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