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RE: The scum is dead - 9/4/2013 5:11:36 PM

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And, here is where I don't quite understand the sentence. What's the point of allowing this guy to continue to live? Life in prison without parole + 1000 years? Does that mean his body is going to be in a cell for the next 1000 years?

I understand the concept of paying one's debt to society, but how was this guy supposed to do that?

I think the 1,000 years was meant to underscore that there was absolutely, positively no hope--ever--of parole. But I'm no expert.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/4/2013 5:11:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

The number of tears I shed after reading this story was uncountable. But. the chopped onions sure went well in the omelet.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/4/2013 5:17:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-man-held-3-women-captive-commits-suicide-043500304.html

Saved the taxpayers a lot of money.

I was reading about this earlier. I have somewhat mixed feelings about it. I agree it saves the taxpayers money, although part of me wishes he could have suffered a little longer. It's almost like he got off easy.

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I was reading about this earlier. I have somewhat mixed feelings about it. I agree it saves the taxpayers money, although part of me wishes he could have suffered a little longer. It's almost like he got off easy.

i don't understand that point of view. it's such a gross and unappealing notion of justice. a monster has been removed, permanently, from humanity. that's the most that could happen to him and it's what will happen to all of us.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/4/2013 5:38:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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What was the debt to society this guy was going to pay? Was his debt to live out the rest of his natural life on the dime of society? If there was labor to be extracted from those inmates, that's one thing, but what was there truly to be gained? Is it truly justice for society to support this guy for the rest of his life (which they did, I point out in a darkly humorous way)?

I understand perfectly what you're saying. As taxpayers, we don't want to pay to support these scumbags; I get that. He's dead now, and the taxpayers won't have to support him. But the thing is, society didn't order his execution. He wasn't given the death penalty, so in the eyes of the law and society, he was expected to serve out his sentence. That's what was decided in court. He chose his demise, as a way of saying "fuck you" to society and to his victims. (I suppose I might feel differently if another inmate killed him, as what happened with Dahmer.)

And, here is where I don't quite understand the sentence. What's the point of allowing this guy to continue to live? Life in prison without parole + 1000 years? Does that mean his body is going to be in a cell for the next 1000 years?

I understand the concept of paying one's debt to society, but how was this guy supposed to do that?

Yeah, I know. Sometimes the criminal justice system can be a bit weird, but when they're dealing with extraordinarily heinous crimes like this, they must have to try to improvise some way. I don't really have a perfect answer here.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/4/2013 10:08:23 PM

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Imagine if you were a really hardcore Sadist and someone told you that SSC and RACK are out the window. If your toy dies, don't worry about it he did these things so you're just saving the taxpayers money.

Beating induced abortions, a Letter of Marque, and an indulgence from the Church? I'm on my way. Just give me time to swing by Harbor Freight.

Ok. Couldn't resist.

The part that bothers me is that the man who did these things still had enough freedom in his imprisonment to make this choice.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/5/2013 6:29:54 AM

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I'm glad it happened, although I'm surprised they didn't think he was suicidal. I got that impression just reading his statements. And that's the second hanging suicide there in a month? Don't they review incidents?

Maybe they did and were sitting back hoping.

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RE: The scum is dead - 9/5/2013 9:22:34 AM

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well.. yah.. sure.. if he really did do himself in but I sorta wonder about that.. his sense of reality, of the harm he did, was so skewed.. imo, if the death penalty hadn't been a bargaining chip to get him to agree to a plea deal, I think he definately would have gone all the way with a trial & he would have enjoyed doing that, imo.. so I really question if he wasn't helped along.. yah, yah.. I know.. that kinda thing happens only in movieland..