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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/4/2013 4:02:51 PM   
lizi


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Status: offline 		There's no way I'd provide an ID to use this site and would just cancel my account. There's way too much risk for too little gain, if I want people to talk to or have sex with I can open my front door. Looking for a partner is harder, I'd still prefer to do it in person rather than have my information go to an entity that I had no control over.

At the point that I'd have to identify myself to use this site, I'd call it not worth the risk and what for? If someone isn't who he says he is, why is that such a big deal? What was "wasted"? The time to type a few messages and an hour to go meet for coffee? Big deal. So someone doesn't look like their driver's license picture, I just don't see the why this is so cataclysmic. Knowing that their picture is "verified" doesn't tell me the things that are harder to find out anyway, like marital status, lifestyle experience, or general asshattery.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/4/2013 4:04:34 PM   
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Edit: the verification requirement I'd like to see added here is IQ above room temperature.

Room temperature IQ level? There are times I'd glad to see them that high...some on the internet have shoe sized ones....

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/4/2013 6:01:42 PM   
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Edit: the verification requirement I'd like to see added here is IQ above room temperature.

Room temperature IQ level? There are times I'd glad to see them that high...some on the internet have shoe sized ones....

Agreed. I was straining myself to be polite

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:09:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think everyone is misunderstanding me here... Your real information would never be open to other members other then have a text or image on your profile saying verified. Anyone that has an issue with that is the type of person I would avoid because they are clearing hiding something or are doing something wrong.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:18:04 AM   
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1) There's no way in hell I'm sending in my personal information just to able to chat on a forum.

2) This site is free and staffed by volunteers. What you're suggesting means that you'd have to pay a fee to be here, because volunteers wouldn't be able to handle the load. And I'm not paying a fee just to able to chat on a forum.

3) Providing an ID doesn't solve the issue. Some people won't post a photo on a kink site, so you can't provide a photo verification. And let's face it, it wouldn't stop people from presenting themselves as something they're not. They can still claim to be experienced, they can still claim to be single, they can still claim to be the Uber dominant/submissive/master/slave....and I would find those items to be far more important than whether the impossibly hot, kinky, 18 year old woman who is willing to be with any man is real. Because if you can't figure out that profile is fake, you need to start typing with BOTH hands.


1). I didn't say that you would need to be verified to use any services here, it would just be a text or image on your profile showing you sent in information to provide proof that you are the person on the pictures in your profile to help cut down on all the fake profiles here which there seam to be quite a few of.

2). No one said anything about paying for anything... Again your putting words in my mouth.

3). In this case they just don't have a verification badge or text on their profile. No problem here for people that don't care about it.

It seams to me that the people who have issues with this suggestion are reading in between the lines & putting their own reasons to why it should not happen. In this case to me it seams you all have something to hide & if your so ashamed of the lifestyle that you have to hide from it, why the hell are you here?

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:41:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

1) There's no way in hell I'm sending in my personal information just to able to chat on a forum.

2) This site is free and staffed by volunteers. What you're suggesting means that you'd have to pay a fee to be here, because volunteers wouldn't be able to handle the load. And I'm not paying a fee just to able to chat on a forum.

3) Providing an ID doesn't solve the issue. Some people won't post a photo on a kink site, so you can't provide a photo verification. And let's face it, it wouldn't stop people from presenting themselves as something they're not. They can still claim to be experienced, they can still claim to be single, they can still claim to be the Uber dominant/submissive/master/slave....and I would find those items to be far more important than whether the impossibly hot, kinky, 18 year old woman who is willing to be with any man is real. Because if you can't figure out that profile is fake, you need to start typing with BOTH hands.


1). I didn't say that you would need to be verified to use any services here, it would just be a text or image on your profile showing you sent in information to provide proof that you are the person on the pictures in your profile to help cut down on all the fake profiles here which there seam to be quite a few of.

So you wouldn't need to be verified to use the services but you would need to be verified to set up an account. And you need to set up an account to use the services. You might want to rethink that logic.

2). No one said anything about paying for anything... Again your putting words in my mouth.

Someone is going to have to check all those id's to make sure they are who they say they are. Who the fuck do you think it going to do that? How many hours a week are you willing to give up to help the site for free?

3). In this case they just don't have a verification badge or text on their profile. No problem here for people that don't care about it.

It seams to me that the people who have issues with this suggestion are reading in between the lines & putting their own reasons to why it should not happen. In this case to me it seams you all have something to hide & if your so ashamed of the lifestyle that you have to hide from it, why the hell are you here?

People have issues with this suggestion for the reasons stated. Just because you hadn't thought of them does not make them any less valid. It seems to me that you feel because you have nothing to hide everyone else should feel the same. This makes you sound like a clueless child. But if you are really having that much trouble hooking up online maybe you should get out into the real world and meet someone. Then you won't have to worry about who you are talking to, you will know.



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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:50:29 AM   
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Thanks for mentioning Alt as a part of your suggestion. It's a site that people have left in droves over the past few years.


Is anyone still there? Serious question. I haven't opened my profile there for years.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:54:18 AM   
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Your real information would never be open to other members other then have a text or image on your profile saying verified.

Lolol. My credit card info was compromised when a major online marketer was hacked -- along with the info of millions of other users. I doubt CM has better security than a place like Zappo's or Amazon. Also, if CM has been compromised, they have less reason to admit it.

There is no such thing as private information on the internet. Straight talk.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 6:46:37 AM   
TnCuck4Mistress


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

1) There's no way in hell I'm sending in my personal information just to able to chat on a forum.

2) This site is free and staffed by volunteers. What you're suggesting means that you'd have to pay a fee to be here, because volunteers wouldn't be able to handle the load. And I'm not paying a fee just to able to chat on a forum.

3) Providing an ID doesn't solve the issue. Some people won't post a photo on a kink site, so you can't provide a photo verification. And let's face it, it wouldn't stop people from presenting themselves as something they're not. They can still claim to be experienced, they can still claim to be single, they can still claim to be the Uber dominant/submissive/master/slave....and I would find those items to be far more important than whether the impossibly hot, kinky, 18 year old woman who is willing to be with any man is real. Because if you can't figure out that profile is fake, you need to start typing with BOTH hands.


1). I didn't say that you would need to be verified to use any services here, it would just be a text or image on your profile showing you sent in information to provide proof that you are the person on the pictures in your profile to help cut down on all the fake profiles here which there seam to be quite a few of.

So you wouldn't need to be verified to use the services but you would need to be verified to set up an account. And you need to set up an account to use the services. You might want to rethink that logic.

2). No one said anything about paying for anything... Again your putting words in my mouth.

Someone is going to have to check all those id's to make sure they are who they say they are. Who the fuck do you think it going to do that? How many hours a week are you willing to give up to help the site for free?

3). In this case they just don't have a verification badge or text on their profile. No problem here for people that don't care about it.

It seams to me that the people who have issues with this suggestion are reading in between the lines & putting their own reasons to why it should not happen. In this case to me it seams you all have something to hide & if your so ashamed of the lifestyle that you have to hide from it, why the hell are you here?

People have issues with this suggestion for the reasons stated. Just because you hadn't thought of them does not make them any less valid. It seems to me that you feel because you have nothing to hide everyone else should feel the same. This makes you sound like a clueless child. But if you are really having that much trouble hooking up online maybe you should get out into the real world and meet someone. Then you won't have to worry about who you are talking to, you will know.




Again putting words in my mouth... I never said anything about having to do it, I said make it an option so that people who are interested in being verified can be. But you know I noticed that no matter what is posted here people are always going to make drama of it so what ever.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 7:31:17 AM   
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Again putting words in my mouth... I never said anything about having to do it, I said make it an option so that people who are interested in being verified can be. But you know I noticed that no matter what is posted here people are always going to make drama of it so what ever.


You brought up the drama.

You obviously have no idea of having your personal details hacked/hijacked or stolen - or don't care, I'm not sure which.

What you are proposing, just like Alt and most other sites, as an optional thing, just won't wash here.

I am a member of Alt and various other and affiliated sites and I haven't volunteered my person info to be "verified" on any of them.
Considering the thousands of others that I see on there every single day who also say they are standard (non-verified) members is the vast majority.

There is only one reason to verify yourself on any site like these - and that is to get access to other additional features that you are otherwise not able to use.
For most people, that verification process and the risks don't justify the extra features. Simples.
And what extra features would CM use??
I can't imagine many would take those up or if CM started cutting access to what is on offer here already without verification I can see an outflow of members no longer using the site.

So those who are objecting aren't putting words into your mouth, they are pointing out the futility of your suggestion and the overall results should CM decide upon such actions.
I think the posts here prove the point. Don't you??


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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 12:40:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a large amount of irony in someone who is hiding behind their computer screen accusing people who are in long term D/s BDSM relationships and who are active in their local communities of " it seams you all have something to hide & if your so ashamed of the lifestyle that you have to hide from it" because they refuse to give their ID to a website.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 1:54:40 PM   
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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 2:27:03 PM   
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What I don't understand is the screeching against the idea of it being an option. Everything stays the same for those that don't want to, but a process that someone can send a copy of ID and a current pic with signature does not seem like it would invade anyone's privacy. Seems like it would be the best of both, remain anon or have a little something that shows you are a verified member.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 2:43:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think there's a couple of different thoughts on why it shouldn't happen.

1) The volunteer staff here is stretched thin enough. It's something that I think people would have to pay for...and then the people paying would whine about the people not paying.

2) What happens if someone who is "verified" turns out to be fake? Does it open up the site to legal ramifications because they've endorsed this person as genuine?

3) Even if someone is verified it does not mean that they, as a person, are who they say they are. People will still lie about marital/relationship status, experience, etc. If the verification turns up that they're married to we force them to say so? Where do we stop?

4) With major banking institutions, major retailers and universities being hacked, giving info to a website is not a risk free behavior. Organizations with much better security have fallen victim. What are the legal ramifications for CM if they were hacked and someone acquired all of the personal info and credit cards of those that opted in?

I just don't see the need to verify people. My view is that if you get out from behind your computer screen and meet people face to face, this particular problem is solved.





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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 4:00:55 PM   
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Hello,

I have been on this site now off & on about 10 years. I have been fortunate in the past to have had the people I met from here actually show up when I went to meet & serve them. I have noticed these past few years though a lot of the people who contact me or that I contact have not been honest with who they are though & when it comes time to meet or take things to the next level I end up getting a link to an affiliate site, some cam site, or some demands to go to another site or messenger program where they then demand money from me.

I wanted to suggest that CollarMe.com add the option/feature to validate its members meaning people can send in a copy of their Drivers License or State ID to prove they are the person in their profile. Like you see on Alt.com & a few other sites. For nothing more then peace of mind that the person you see on the profile is in fact the person you are talking to & not some random pictures that someone has googled.

Its just a thought & why should anyone have a problem with it unless they are not who they claim to be. I have nothing to hide myself.




Good g*d that is an idiotic suggestion. Let's just all set ourselves up for identification theft, blackmail, and (for some people in places like.... the Middle East)... oh really bad stuff.



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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 4:18:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress

Hello,

I have been on this site now off & on about 10 years. I have been fortunate in the past to have had the people I met from here actually show up when I went to meet & serve them. I have noticed these past few years though a lot of the people who contact me or that I contact have not been honest with who they are though & when it comes time to meet or take things to the next level I end up getting a link to an affiliate site, some cam site, or some demands to go to another site or messenger program where they then demand money from me.

I wanted to suggest that CollarMe.com add the option/feature to validate its members meaning people can send in a copy of their Drivers License or State ID to prove they are the person in their profile. Like you see on Alt.com & a few other sites. For nothing more then peace of mind that the person you see on the profile is in fact the person you are talking to & not some random pictures that someone has googled.

Its just a thought & why should anyone have a problem with it unless they are not who they claim to be. I have nothing to hide myself.


I have one of those new Select-ID driver's licenses (for new federal plane travel regs coming soon) and there is no way in Hell I'd send a copy of that to an anonymous website owner because you find it inconvenient to more fully vet your potential partners. That's what your suggestion is all about too - convenience over security.

Also, with the prevalence of inexpensive software (ever heard of SnagIt?) that will allow even the most inept to easily alter a photograph, you'd now be expecting the CM staff to identify falsely-submitted identification. Very few professionals have that expertise; it takes time and resources to enact and maintain a verification system such as what you propose.


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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 5:08:59 PM   
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You know alotta stuff about pigshit do you, LP?


Wow....that was incredibly uncalled for.

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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 7:49:50 PM   
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I think everyone is misunderstanding me here... Your real information would never be open to other members other then have a text or image on your profile saying verified. Anyone that has an issue with that is the type of person I would avoid because they are clearing hiding something or are doing something wrong.

Please feel free to avoid Me then. My last name, address, or anything else has no need to be connected with any site or with anyone that I don't know.

What do I have to hide? My identity. I just went through a period of *months* that was a problem.

I'll stick with verifying Myself the way I always have here. By meeting people in person, participating in My local community, and presenting topics in those venues that have invited Me to do so. For anybody who decides that isn't good enough, that's on them. However, it's not Me started threads complaining that I never meet anyone.



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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/7/2013 10:29:52 PM   
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RE: Suggestion for CM - 9/8/2013 2:25:44 AM   
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it sounds great until they need you to pay the salary of those hired to check the ids

Perhaps all the self proclaimed princesses and goddesses who are making money off of being here would chip in to cover the cost?



Yeah, right.

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