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I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:14:15 PM   
canigia


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I am new at this and want to take my first slave and I would like someone to help me to be a good master, thanks.
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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:18:21 PM   
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Oh no....My suggestion is going to be to duck!

If you are new..I don't suggest jumping right into taking a slave. There is a LOT to it and the majority has nothing to do with sex or making rules.... Start with some of the books on the sticky that is at the top of the General forum. Stick around and read the threads...especially the subs because you will hear what they like, expect, need...

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:18:33 PM   
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I am new at this and want to take my first slave and I would like someone to help me to be a good master, thanks.

OK, I'll start out.

Define what you mean by "master"
Define what you mean by "slave"
Explain why some "slave" would want you as a "master"


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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:20:19 PM   
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Make good decisions. Think them out as to how they will impact her life.
Don't demand she does things that will cause her problems at work. She needs the money. She needs to be seen as a good employee and hopefully get raises and promotions.

Don't cause her problems at home. Don't demand she refers to you as master when talking to her mother. She needs her family and friends.

Pay attention. Be honest. Accept criticism without getting defensive and angry.

Be a good man.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:22:23 PM   
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Learn to be a good dominant first. Then, with mucho experience and gaining of skills coupled with the acceptance and respect of your community and peers, you can worry about mayyyyyybe calling yourself a Master.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:35:55 PM   
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Be a good man.

LOL.. perfect.

Honestly, I've found "being a good man" highly effective at getting women to want to please me.... men too for that matter. That's why things like "volunteering" are catnip for women.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 3:38:34 PM   
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I'm with everyone else.

You need to figure out how to be a good man and a good leader before you try doing an M/s relationship.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 4:50:16 PM   
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Bienvenidos!

Unfortunately, the word "maestro", I have heard, means both Dom and Master. In English, they're two different words.

A Dom is someone who wants to be in charge. A Master is a Dom who has achieved recognition for proficiency with self-discipline, insight, and capability, and has generally developed fluency with some techniques such as bondage.

As a Dom, I feel a heightened sense of responsibility. I have to determine what is best for myself, for my submissive, and for our relationship.

I'd suggest going to local groups to see how others manage D/s relationships, but I don't know how many groups are where you live in Spain.



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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 5:49:30 PM   
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According to fet, nothing.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 6:07:00 PM   
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A Dom is someone who wants to be in charge. A Master is a Dom who has achieved recognition for proficiency with self-discipline, insight, and capability, and has generally developed fluency with some techniques such as bondage.


I view Master/slave as a TPE relationship. I always think it's funny that newbies often think they're qualified to go for that level without any experience. That's like expecting your first bicycle to be Lance Armstrong's Tour de France bike.

TPE isn't easy at first. It's something you ease into. It's difficult enough to get there when both partners are experienced in D/s relationships. So, the expectation of "I'm going be a Master and have a slave" when you have not a clue is very unrealistic, in my opinion.


< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 9/5/2013 6:09:01 PM >


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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 6:52:34 PM   
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TPE isn't easy at first. It's something you ease into. It's difficult enough to get there when both partners are experienced in D/s relationships. So, the expectation of "I'm going be a Master and have a slave" when you have not a clue is very unrealistic, in my opinion.

In my own little brain it goes like this. Taking on a slave is accepting responsibility for a human being. So if I wouldn't accept a new child then I shouldn't be taking on a new slave. If I can't deal with things like "health care" and "retirement programs" and "education" and "career" then I'm not really qualified to own a human. If I can't put a roof over her head and food in her mouth then I can't afford to own a human. If I still think women's minds are mysterious then I am not knowledgeable enough to own a woman.

I think tenure as a BDSM <insert role here> is beyond meaningless. Matter of fact, I'd be more mistrustful of someone who told me they were a BDSM Master of 20 years than I would some dominant vanilla guy in terms of putting Carol in their care.... by far.

But then again, when I think of "owning a slave" I'm thinking of it literally. I've noted that in the younger age brackets things are more relaxed... much like the difference between how younger people see relationships and older people do. That's why I think it's important to understand what OP means by "master" and "slave".


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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/5/2013 10:43:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: canigia

I am new at this and want to take my first slave and I would like someone to help me to be a good master, thanks.



Strive to be your authentic self and do it as well as you possibly can each and everyday. The rest will take care of itself.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/6/2013 4:25:25 AM   
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First thank you for your advice first and your second tiempo.En my vocabulary or expressions were not adequate for this purpose disculpas.Mi ask is initiated into the world of domination and I would like to know what books I've read and advice to take into account, such as characteristics of a ruler, thanks again.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/6/2013 4:38:42 AM   
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Aqui son libros que ResidentSadist prefiere: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

Pero libros son un curso de instruccion total. Necesita usted exeriencisa tambien.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/6/2013 12:35:29 PM   
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A few people used the word here and I don't want it to go unnoticed. What we do is a relationship. I don't care if it is Master/Slave or Dominant/Submissive it is a relationship. If you are an asshole in your personal life and you try your hand at a relationship, more than likely it will fail. If you are an asshole in a BDSM relationship someone could get seriously hurt; physically or mentally. It takes a great deal of responsibility on the part of the dominant in order to establish trust and maintain that deep level of trust that the submissive needs to feel. I can't tell you how many threads I have read about people who never established any kind of trust and then end up with someone that is abusive. This is why you will hear the advice from submissives and dominants to wait for awhile until you play. There are too many people that think that people who are kinky are easy lays. Certainly there are a few, but the majority will not have kinky sex until they have established a baseline of trust. (Just a note: My wording on the last two sentences may be a tad shaky but I couldn't figure out a better way to say it.) It takes an investment of time, energy, and communication, in order to establish that trust. Add the Internet into that equation and it becomes harder to do.

The BDSM dynamic is not something you choose to do overnight... "Gee, I am going to be a dominant... I'm going to go get me a slave." I think most people will tell you that either you are a dominant or you are not, it is not something that can be faked. Of course there are those that are Switches who are both dominant and submissive, but that is different than what you are asking. If you want to be a good Master, then be sure you are good at relationships, and that you will care for and nurture your submissive/slave. You should never try to "break" a sub/slave because that could do emotional harm, you build your sub/slave up and support them and help them grow in their submission. You can train them in the things that you expect from them, but do not expect them to know what it is you want without communicating that to them first. There was someone recently on the boards who was getting punished for everything she did, there were never rewards, she was set up for failure all the time because "punishment" is all her dominant knew how to do. Of course he never communicated those things clearly either but this is not about punishment; that is one dimensional. Most submissives will tell you that all their masters have to say is the word "punishment" and their hearts are already breaking because they have let their Master down. Punishment should also never be given in anger, nor should it ever come without an explanation and a lesson.

My best advice is to read, read, read, and read, as many books that you can on the subject of BDSM and if you have a local community get involved in it and learn. It is all well and good to read about being a Master, but it sure will not hurt to read about being a submissive because that will help you be a better dominant. Read these forums and ask questions... and remember that the dumbest question is the one that you don't ask. This is a journey with wondrous rewards and interesting challenges.

I wish you the very best.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/6/2013 1:43:42 PM   
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Thanks again, I like all your advice, and of course it has become clear that the first is read, ie information, thanks to each and every one of you from Spain.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/7/2013 5:51:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Aqui son libros que ResidentSadist prefiere: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

Pero libros son un curso de instruccion total. Necesita usted exeriencisa tambien.



Argh! That SHOULD have read

Pero libros NO etsan un curso de instruccion total. Necesita usted experiencia tambien.

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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/7/2013 8:18:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Learn to be a good dominant first. Then, with mucho experience and gaining of skills coupled with the acceptance and respect of your community and peers, you can worry about mayyyyyybe calling yourself a Master.

This. ^^^ I just find it difficult to believe that a newbie should be called a "Master." First be a good Dominant and, to be a good Dominant, first be a good person.

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/7/2013 12:13:18 PM   
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I want to be a good master

Then learn to learn how to become the best you that you can be.

May sound Dr. Seuss-esque, but it's so true.
Sluts fall for men, not for Masters.
The mastery comes from the man, not the other way around

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RE: I want to be a good master - 9/7/2013 12:16:12 PM   
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The mastery comes from the man, not the other way around

Simple, yet perfectly put.

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