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I agree it was a tragedy that a little girl died because someone was negligent. A hard lesson to learn for sure. But out in the wild, especially now, having a weapon is once again becoming necessary. Others have shown you that crime in national parks is going up, and while attacks by wild animals aren't a major issue, there are other animals out there to be concerned of...
Oh Christ, people!
This was a crowded public park!
It could have been anywhere, it was just another very popular and well facilitated and entirely catered to moms and pops and the kids just wanting to smell the roses for a day or three. This isn't the Mexican border, this isn't Big Ben Alaskan Yukon Denalli whatever. It's a fancy picnic site where you can picnic for three days if you like.
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Number one is our fellow man. Homo sapiens in an apex predator, and certain members of this species has no problem in preying on their own kind. I've had my campsite robbed once while out rockclimbing, and had a friend who was robbed at gunpoint in a state park by one of the hermits who lived up there. Criminals like it when their victims are not only unable to call for help, but even if they can, that help may be hours or days away.
Number two is man's best friend, once they go wild. Feral dogs are menaces to people and wildlife alike. Unlike wolves or coyotes, they have no fear of man, especially if they're abandoned or runaways. They're loud, impetuous, sloppy killers who will cause harm if they can get to you. When I was a teen, I had a pack tree me until they got bored. After that, I never set foot in the wild again without a firearm of some sort.
Even back in the '80s, there were warnings about not messing with illegal grow operations in the parks and wilderness areas I visited. Some of those people have no problem with boobytraps and ambushing people who stumble across their sites. Being able to fight back is definitely not something they want to deal with, and I wouldn't be surprised if at some level they are trying to affect the rules regarding personal weapons in the parks. The rules don't apply to them, after all. They're criminals, and they'll carry what they please no matter what. It's only fair to level the playing field for the people who are paying for that park to be able to use it.
It's called "The Wilderness" for a reason.
Here we go again, trying to drag Southside Chicago into every discussion.
Some people are just scared shitless of just about anything; wilderness, dogs, black people, whatever. You can have it, but no thanks, here.
I've been robbed and broken into on several occasions.
I'm not a wimp. The fuck with me being a 'victim.' I deal. I change patterns and methods and neighborhoods. I don't get robbed anymore. Simple.
I've taken the nephews and nieces on numerous outdoor ventures, never an issue.
Stay at least 800 miles away from Chi. or NYC, set the tent under small trees to lessen the rain, away from large trees to not get electrocuted by lighting, and we all have a great time, even when in thunder and downpour deluge. That's all there is to it.
I didn't take them near bears or hunting grounds, not difficult.
If I were to take them to Alaska, I'd hire a guide with a rifle, but I didn't take them to Alaska.
Simple as that.
Read that again: my six yr. old niece (at the time) would never have had any possible access to a gun of any sort, whatever the situation.
I’m not going to drag in the south side of Chicago. I am, however going to drag in Atlanta, Georgia since that is where your profile says you are located.
In 2011 Atlanta had less than 500,000 residents. In 2010 Atlanta had 93 murders. Admittedly, I don’t know how many of those were committed with a firearm. You say you have been the victim of crime in the past and that you have moved at times to feel safe. But the city you choose to live in had 93 murders in one year, in a city of less than 500,000.
Now you are whining and carrying on about how unsafe this law is that has allowed firearms to be brought into Yellowstone. Yellowstone has about 3,000,000 visitors per year. In the three years since the law in question came into effect that is about 9,000,000 people. Out of those 9,000,000 people there has been…one…accidental death due to a firearm.
It sounds to me like you should move to Yellowstone.
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