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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/15/2013 11:18:18 PM   
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Yes, many are turned away. It's difficult to know how high Harvard's standards really are. Since diversity and inclusion are expressly a part of the admittance process, what is the division between admittance based on merit, diversity and inclusion? On what basis, exactly, was Obama admitted?

Granted Harvard is not going to admit a total nitwit, but if one is admitted based on diversity is that sufficient to establish one as exceptionally intelligent simply because, well, it's Harvard?


Why would they accept him only for being black if he didn't have merit, when there are so, so, so many highly qualified young minority people who apply there every year from all over the world? Race and background may help someone to stand out from the crowd of the exceptional applicants they're seriously considering, but they've got to be in that crowd to begin with.

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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 6:26:22 AM   
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Yes, many are turned away. It's difficult to know how high Harvard's standards really are. Since diversity and inclusion are expressly a part of the admittance process, what is the division between admittance based on merit, diversity and inclusion? On what basis, exactly, was Obama admitted?
Granted Harvard is not going to admit a total nitwit, but if one is admitted based on diversity is that sufficient to establish one as exceptionally intelligent simply because, well, it's Harvard?

Why would they accept him only for being black if he didn't have merit, when there are so, so, so many highly qualified young minority people who apply there every year from all over the world? Race and background may help someone to stand out from the crowd of the exceptional applicants they're seriously considering, but they've got to be in that crowd to begin with.


Yet, W is long spat on as being an idiot by many on the Left. He attended and graduated both from Yale and Harvard (Business School; MBA).


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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 6:37:16 AM   
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Yet, W is long spat on as being an idiot by many on the Left. He attended and graduated both from Yale and Harvard (Business School; MBA).



Which was kind of my point, here:

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4. Harvard doesn't admit dummies.



Does their business school admit dummies?




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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 6:57:26 AM   
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Yet, W is long spat on as being an idiot by many on the Left. He attended and graduated both from Yale and Harvard (Business School; MBA).

Which was kind of my point, here:
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4. Harvard doesn't admit dummies.

Does their business school admit dummies?


I knew where you were coming from.


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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 7:13:14 AM   
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was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois. While growing up in Chicago he was a child prodigy, excelling academically from an early age. He was accepted into Harvard University at the age of 16, where he earned an undergraduate degree. He subsequently earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley in 1967 at age 25, but resigned two years later.



Anyone? Bueller?

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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 10:35:38 AM   
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Why would they accept him only for being black if he didn't have merit, when there are so, so, so many highly qualified young minority people who apply there every year from all over the world? Race and background may help someone to stand out from the crowd of the exceptional applicants they're seriously considering, but they've got to be in that crowd to begin with.



He may well have had merit, but utilizing your own wording it's apparent that being black was the demarcation line, and not merit itself, which was cause for his acceptance. It's immaterial whether he was in "that crowd to begin with" if race was the consideration that separated him out no matter his merit.

If the criteria is only those who are "in that crowd to begin with", why not admit by lottery?

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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 10:51:16 AM   
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Why would they accept him only for being black if he didn't have merit, when there are so, so, so many highly qualified young minority people who apply there every year from all over the world? Race and background may help someone to stand out from the crowd of the exceptional applicants they're seriously considering, but they've got to be in that crowd to begin with.



He may well have had merit, but utilizing your own wording it's apparent that being black was the demarcation line, and not merit itself, which was cause for his acceptance. It's immaterial whether he was in "that crowd to begin with" if race was the consideration that separated him out no matter his merit.

If the criteria is only those who are "in that crowd to begin with", why not admit by lottery?

It is not apparent that the President was admitted simply for being black. As a matter of fact it is a ridiculous idea. There were certainly many more black and other minority applicants than the size of the entire entering class so even if his racial background was considered, there is no evidence to support that claim, he was still at the top of that very large group of applicants.

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RE: Why is Syria different? - 9/16/2013 12:24:09 PM   
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