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A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 9:29:45 AM   
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Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.
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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 9:33:50 AM   
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1. As humans.
2. As a man of bearing, confidence, knowledge, honesty, kindness, thoughtfulness, industry, and intelligence.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 9:35:54 AM   
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Women in general - as normal human beings, with hopes and dreams and fears and worries, just like the rest of the world. Even when you have a submissive partner, this shouldn't change.

Now, how you perceive the woman you choose (and who chooses you) as your 'other half', well you perceive her as a human being with hopes and dreams and fears and worries, just like yourself. The difference is the way you interact with her - and that is something that both of you should decide together.

You should perceive yourself as an equal to other women. You aren't superior to them - the only one you can claim any sort of superiority over is the one you are in a relationship with, but then again only if that is something you BOTH want as part of your dynamic.



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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 10:38:08 AM   
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If you want to be a Dominant, then perception and reputation can be your friend or your enemy.

Keep your word. Treat others with respect. Make sure you act so as to gather respect. When you approach women and deal ith them, be open and transparent. If you're only available for play, be up front about it. If you feel she could be compatible, let her know. Stand up for what you believe in.

Make a good reputation.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 2:06:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.


Question 1:

They are human beings.

Question 2:

You are a human being.


For some decent answers to being a dominant check out the book The Loving Dominant by John Warren.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 6:44:05 PM   
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Which women, your partner, your mother, a casual lover?

That's like asking what is the meaning of life. 42 is the answer to life according to Douglas Adams.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 7:04:16 PM   
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No, 42 to is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything. No one ever figured out what the question was.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/21/2013 8:14:19 PM   
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The mice seemed to think it had to do with how many roads a man walks down.

OP, be yourself. If she feels you're worth following, she will. Ron already nailed the definitions nicely, so I'll leave it at that.

(Nice avatar Ron, when did you change it? And bear in mind, I have not been on the boards in a while.)


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RE: A matter of perception - 9/22/2013 2:51:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.


The answers to your questions are the same regardless of whether you want to be dominant with women, submissive with them or anything else with them

1... Just like you perceive men in general, as unique, individual human beings. Some may be interested in being dominated by you. Others will not be. Respect their right to decide for themselves.

2... You don't "perceive yourself in relation to women". You perceive yourself in relation to yourself, to the world, to the human race. You try to perceive yourself honestly. Many people, perhaps most, don't manage this. The human capacity for self deception and delusion is nearly infinite.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/22/2013 3:23:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge


quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.


Question 1:

They are human beings.

Question 2:

You are a human being.


I'm echoing that.



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RE: A matter of perception - 9/22/2013 4:30:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.

Read this.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2099303/tm.htm

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/22/2013 5:41:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

1. ...how should I perceive women in general?

2. ...how should I perceive myself in relation to women?

Thanks.


1. As a normal human being.
2. As a normal human being.

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/23/2013 3:01:30 AM   
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Dominant imho is something you are, not something you do. Now, if you wish to project a dominant aura and set it up like some sort of role play I guess there are ways to do that.
As for the questions...
Just be yourself and don't try to be something you're not. Respect any human being regardless of who they are (until they are proven not to be worthy of that respect such as with child molesters, rapists and such).

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/24/2013 4:12:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32
Hi. I have 2 questions about perception and mindset. If I wanted to be dominant with women...

I echo pretty much everything everyone has said up till now.

That being said I think you are asking all the wrong questions. For me being "dominant" means that people obey me ... not simply Carol ... lots of people do. People follow my lead at work, on random street-corners, wherever. It means that I am a "natural born leader", eg: pretty much constantly I fall into leadership positions with and without trying. My secret for gaining power does not involve (to use my favorite quote) svengali-esque mind control tricks. There's a few key points to it.

Courage: Being a real leader requires courage because whatever you do, a lot depends on it and it's all very public. Failure very much is an option and when you fail in the captain's chair the whole freakin world knows about it. I oft-times think that particular sort of courage, more than anything, is what separates the dominant from not. I jokingly refer to it as stupidity... "When everyone else was smart enough to step back, I stepped up instead."

Character: Are you honorable or not? It's a simple question that defies a simple answer. I work very hard at it every day. If you just think "Sure I'm honorable" and move on then you're not. If you find being honorable easy then you're not. If you have never had to sacrifice your self for your honor then you have no idea what honor is.

Focus: There are two kinds of leaders, those who do it for the authority and those who do it for the responsibility. The first kind is using people. The second kind is serving them. Both can work but obviously type 2 is a lot easier to get followers with.

People Skills: I "read" people quite readily. If'you're going to manipulate people, it helps a lot to know how the buttons and knobs work -- for real -- not in erotic fiction books. In this sense your original questions are throwing you entirely in the wrong direction. To manipulate someone you must see them clearly and accurately as they are in reality. If you try to superimpose some way you are supposed to perceive them on top of that reality you're losing control through willful ignorance.

Leadership Skills: Hey, go figure. Leading people requires leadership skills. Go visit the business section of your local library or book store and pickup some credible advice on leadership in real books. Or, if you want the short course read and understand this.

A goal: You can't lead if you are standing still. Then you're just standing around doing nothing. I really don't spend much effort at all getting people to obey/follow. I'm a man with a mission. People line or behind me or not as they see fit but I'm generally too busy to bother with power struggles and the like. I'd be a really poor choice for a sub who "needs to be put in their place" because I'd cut them loose instead.

Just stop and think a minute. People... pretty much ALL people... like following a good leader. Most of us have memories of such a person and they are positive memories rather than some sort of "being oppressed" feel. If you're a good leader, people will line up behind without you even noticing or trying. It's a human pack thing.

By the way... the same thing will get you lots of blowjobs if that's all you want. Chicks, as a general rule, dig men who are actually (rather than self-proclaimed) "natural born leaders".

< Message edited by JeffBC -- 9/24/2013 4:24:47 AM >


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RE: A matter of perception - 9/24/2013 10:13:34 AM   
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Dominance is an inner thing. You have it or you don't. And if you're not sure, you don't. If you think you actually want to become dominant and are not currently so, you're not likely to get there without some sort of therapy (although therapy can manifest in many ways). Becoming a sub first can be a good path.

If you're just looking to role play or fake it... Take acting classes?

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RE: A matter of perception - 9/24/2013 10:56:34 AM   
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No, 42 to is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything. No one ever figured out what the question was.

That's because it is impossible for both The Ultimate Answer and The Ultimate Question to be known in the same universe or at the same time. Hey, it took the Deep Thought computer 7 million years to come up with The Ultimate Answer and it was going to take another 10 million years of having living beings in a computational matrix (Earth) to get The Ultimate Question. The process which was broken early by the Vogons destroying the Earth, which is where the story starts in book one.

Anyway, the OP's question is as vague as the answer "42" which is meaningless because the guys who built the supercomputer never actually knew what the Question was.

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