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NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/27/2013 10:45:57 PM)

politically CORRECT female groping of men happens in cultures less often "blah-blahed" about. Both encouraged by the mae OR ENACTED UPON THE MALE by the female, even if the female considers herself a nilla version of a "sub".

Dublin and Galway late nights after 1 am fall into this category.



orgasmdenial12 -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/28/2013 4:59:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Pyramus
...the actions appear to directly mimic the primal desire all males that I know have, which is the desire to stick our hands down a woman's blouse in order to fondle her breasts.


This is not a primal desire. This is a culturally constructed desire which is prevalent amongst some western nations, largely due to our culturally constructed ideas about naked breasts being taboo and thus fetishised.

Think about it - primal woman wouldn't have worn blouses, so how can the primal man desire to stick his hands down them? Primal woman would most likely not have covered her breasts at all, and they would have been considered as normal and unremarkable as bare arms or shoulders.

I have never seen a gorilla lavisciously fondling the milk ducts of a female gorilla. Nor do men and women in hunter gatherer societies (where many women do not cover their breasts) regard breasts with the same fascination as the (somewhat immature and feverish) attitude of men in many western societies.

Once again, sexual harrassment and assault written off under the banner of 'primal desire'. Non consensually grabbing a woman's breasts is never, ever acceptable, regardless of how 'primal' you may think it might be.



SerWhiteTiger -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/28/2013 5:30:42 AM)

What it is is a flagrant expression of insecurity.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/28/2013 5:58:55 AM)

Hee hee.

To grope or not to grope, that is the question.

The only primal desire I would have to grope men is if I was groped first, uninvitingly. Then yes I would feel the desire to tightly grope the hell out of them.



SexyThoughts -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/28/2013 6:42:16 PM)

Go ask any male stripper. The female of the species is more gropeyer than the male. [:D]



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 12:51:50 AM)

twue dat





AllysBaby -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 1:07:10 AM)

I for one have no desire to do that. The thought disgusts me in fact, I wouldn't grope anyone except the one lady bestowed on me by fate and even then it would be consentual, but groping males no thank you and if anyone ever did that to me without my consent authorities would be contacted especially if it was by a male.



crazyml -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 1:16:30 AM)

Hmmm... I'm really not sure it was a "grope".

As for this '' primal desire that all the men you Know have...." are you fucking kidding? Every man you know? Unless you're hooked up with sone creepy breast fetishizing community then I will bet you're mistaken.

... and as for the fact that you have never been groped by a female... you know, there might just be a connection between your primal urge to fondle and a lack of interest in fondling you back





MissImmortalPain -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 1:41:47 AM)

*grumble, grumble* So my computer won't let me watch the video but I don't think it has much to do with the question (leave the tree hanger alone) Do women get the urge to "grope" men? Well define the word grope. I am a very tactile person and though I don't like others touching me without permission I often reach out and touch others (yes I know what a horrid person that makes me, you don't have to tell me) So, yeah, I touch a lot of people. If you mean touching, rubbing, fondling, in a way as to induce mating.......yeah, I've done that before too. Enjoyed it too. Will more than likely do it again. I try to keep it limited to just the inner circle but had I not "groped" at least two of them they wouldn't be part of the circle now.



littlewonder -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 4:11:47 AM)

I have zero interest in groping anyone at all, not even Master. It's just not me.

If a complete stranger groped me, and it has happened, they would be wishing they were never born. I had a male once who did so and he got a knee to the nuts. I had a female who tried to and she got a slap across the face and a few choice words spit in her face.

As for Master groping me, yeah I don't mind at all and he does so often.

Anyone else though unless he gave them permission to do so, would be wishing they never met me.



TigressLily -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 8:12:38 AM)


You took the words right out of my mouth.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

as for the fact that you have never been groped by a female... you know, there might just be a connection between your primal urge to fondle and a lack of interest in fondling you back


But given that OP is a Dom, he could conceivably get as much fondling-upon-demand as he wanted. Or else tell his girl to grope him whenever she gets the urge to do so.

Two afterthoughts. First, crotch-grabbing would be terribly déclassé, sans an understanding already in place in an appropriate venue. Such as in the back of a darkened movie theatre where one can engage in discreet fondling. Prospective male subs might hope during their initial visual inspection that the Domme will touch them or take other liberties, but don't count on it. If she (not me) were to grab your nutsack, it's to test your pain threshold, not to cop a feel.

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ORIGINAL: SexyThoughts

Go ask any male stripper. The female of the species is more gropeyer than the male.


It's my understanding that you guys operate under a different set of rules than female strippers. You deliberately invite physical contact from your female audience, as part of getting them to lose their inhibitions, unlike non-male dancers who are not nearly as interactive, who may or may not allow their male audience to cross the line unless paying for a private lap dance. It is precisely because women are normally less aggressive that you encourage them to grope you.

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immoral -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 9:47:26 AM)

erm....im a groper. I often have the urge..... and im learning its alright to do so . but the urge...... yep its there



ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 10:04:12 AM)

I only grope those of which I am intimately acquainted. And in the case of my sub, I do way more than grope. (I'm a CBT fan.)

As for males having some primal urge, please get real OP, but sexes have a primal urge to procreate. That is not exclusive to males.




AllysBaby -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 12:03:25 PM)

I have no urge to procreate I hate it in fact



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 9:34:41 PM)

I've been groped casually by "I have bearely glimpsed you at dis here club" and been groped by long-term platonics after my sitch or their sitch has changed and by people where we are hanging out and subbie-wubbie who is the one for me at that time sees a woman eyeing me and graps my sack, and growls at the other woman "Back OFF, you illiterate hussy" and I have not a whit of negative reaction to that. Even if they lift up my hand and plant it firmly on their own boob while glaring at the presumed female interloper.



Pyramus -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 11:20:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

I tried to look at the video but it says that it's been removed.


It's here also (since it made news all over the world):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10334074/Baboon-grabs-reporters-breast-on-live-TV.html



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/29/2013 11:44:56 PM)

So Jimmy Fallon was having Kat Dennings as a guest interview?



pompeii -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/30/2013 12:25:12 AM)

[/quote]
This is not a primal desire. This is a culturally constructed desire which is prevalent amongst some western nations, largely due to our culturally constructed ideas about naked breasts being taboo and thus fetishised.[/quote]

You make a good point that in National Geographic land, breasts are droopy things that nobody seems to notice (except when we were little boys, with just that and the Sears catalog to satisfy our budding primeval desires).

However, now that we're all grow'ed up, we men (heterosexual anyway) do crave women's breasts - at least we red-blooded men who admit to it and the proof is extant almost anywhere you look, from the admission charge to a go-go bar to the price for the lap dance to the higher price of the more private touchy-feely places.

The fact that women almost universally take advantage (in any way they can, not the least of which is done by our famous actresses of late) of said primal desire of males for breasts is an understatement.

So, if the desire isn't primal, it sure starts early if it's culturally induced, since I had it at age, oh, I don't know, 13 or so and it has never abated. Damn that cultural influence! Damn that Sears catalog! Damn National Geographic!



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/30/2013 12:30:21 AM)

so we ARE talking about Kat Denning!



Cilicia -> RE: Do females have the same primal desire to grope men that males have? (9/30/2013 12:34:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

so we ARE talking about Kat Denning!


If I was a pubescent kid, male or female, and I saw this about Kat Denning, I'd say the cultural influence for her breasts would be so overwhelming that even if I were gay, I'd want to grope her any chance I'd get!

http://www.sinlung.com/2010/11/kat-dennings-nude-pics-leaked-online.html

The point seems to be that it's all cultural. It has nothing to do with primal instinct whatsoever. Hmmmmmm.... I'm not buying it. It's primal all right. It just might not be primate.



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