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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/6/2014 5:14:55 PM   
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No I don't have to be psychic. If they were running around threatening people every news service in the country
would have covered that ad we would already have a thread on it.


A> Where have you been, Denial?

B> Threatening wasn't listed in your criteria earlier. If the confused, lost, cold, old man had been brandished his flashlight in a threatening manner that would at least be some justification toward the need for self defense.

C> I don't know about every news service, Fox News (looking fair to the unbalanced) probably skips it.


C Everyone reported the demonstration nobody said they threatened people.
B So sorry I overestimated you any idiot should be able to understand that threatening by word
or element of self defense. Advancing with a weapon after being warned is threat by action.

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/6/2014 6:11:56 PM   
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C Everyone reported the demonstration nobody said they threatened people.
B So sorry I overestimated you any idiot should be able to understand that threatening by word
or element of self defense. Advancing with a weapon after being warned is threat by action.


I understand what I consider self defense but there's no way for me to know what you consider self defense without asking, hence these thought experiments. When I look at this latest case of advance and escalate your group it seems to me like the guy should very clearly be behind bars, so you can't be expecting me to be making sane assumptions about your position.

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/6/2014 6:18:37 PM   
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C Everyone reported the demonstration nobody said they threatened people.


Yes they never threatened anybody, that's why the secret service has had to call in riot police on them and why there are numerous complaints of voter intimidation against them.

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/6/2014 6:30:21 PM   
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C Everyone reported the demonstration nobody said they threatened people.


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ORIGINAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Other_events
The final round of debate before voting on the health care bill was marked with vandalism and widespread threats of violence to at least ten Democratic lawmakers across the country, which created public relations problems for the fledgeling Tea Party movement. On March 22, 2010, in what the New York Times called "potentially the most dangerous of many acts of violence and threats against supporters of the bill," a Lynchburg, Virginia Tea Party organizer and the Danville, Virginia Tea Party Chairman both posted the home address of Representative Tom Perriello's brother (mistakenly believing it was the Congressman's address) on their websites, and encouraged readers to "drop by" to express their anger against Representative Perriello's vote in favor of the healthcare bill.

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/6/2014 8:35:50 PM   
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C Everyone reported the demonstration nobody said they threatened people.


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ORIGINAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Other_events
The final round of debate before voting on the health care bill was marked with vandalism and widespread threats of violence to at least ten Democratic lawmakers across the country, which created public relations problems for the fledgeling Tea Party movement. On March 22, 2010, in what the New York Times called "potentially the most dangerous of many acts of violence and threats against supporters of the bill," a Lynchburg, Virginia Tea Party organizer and the Danville, Virginia Tea Party Chairman both posted the home address of Representative Tom Perriello's brother (mistakenly believing it was the Congressman's address) on their websites, and encouraged readers to "drop by" to express their anger against Representative Perriello's vote in favor of the healthcare bill.


Which has nothing to do with the demonstration you pictured so you are reaching again.

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/8/2014 6:21:15 PM   
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Which has nothing to do with the demonstration you pictured so you are reaching again.


Whoa hold on you claimed that an old man walking while having a flashlight was a deadly threat because someone completely different had managed to kill with a flashlight. I'm pointing out that the angry well armed Tea Party a party who's named after an act of domestic terrorism has a long and sordid history of threatening and terrorizing people despite only being around for a very few years.



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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/8/2014 6:27:28 PM   
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Which has nothing to do with the demonstration you pictured so you are reaching again.


Whoa hold on you claimed that an old man walking while having a flashlight was a deadly threat because someone completely different had managed to kill with a flashlight. I'm pointing out that the angry well armed Tea Party a party who's named after an act of domestic terrorism has a long and sordid history of threatening and terrorizing people despite only being around for a very few years.





What acts of terrorism ? What threatening ?

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RE: What are the limits to self defense. - 3/8/2014 6:46:26 PM   
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Which has nothing to do with the demonstration you pictured so you are reaching again.


Whoa hold on you claimed that an old man walking while having a flashlight was a deadly threat because someone completely different had managed to kill with a flashlight. I'm pointing out that the angry well armed Tea Party a party who's named after an act of domestic terrorism has a long and sordid history of threatening and terrorizing people despite only being around for a very few years.




They can't have a long history of terrorism if they don't have a long history.
The mayor of San Diego recently resigned because of a sexual assault conviction, we al know
about Wiener and Clinton does that make the Democratic party the party of rape whose members should be shot on sight by women?
Say something rational or be quiet.

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