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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 5:28:46 PM   
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I thought more threads about feminism isn't allowed?

Every time I make a thread about feminism, it gets deleted. Even though it's a totally different topic (on feminism) to the last.

For example, the last thread I made that got deleted was about how faulty the feminist theory is on patriarchy. NO OTHER THREAD exist on that particular matter, but just because feminism is involved with the topic, it was used as a cheap excuse to get rid of it.

But let's just forget ALL the threads about Obama, rebulicans, gun laws etc etc etc. There are a billion threads based on them topics or people but in different subtopics. That is magically allowed.



@naughtynick81: Every thread you start is on the exact same subject. And it is, "How we poor, pitiful men are put upon by evil, gold-digging, oppressive women". In fact, just about every POST you make is on that same subject.

@ Vuilste: The only thing that all women who call themselves feminist have in common is that they all feel that women have rights just as men do. Other than that, the "feminist" view on ANYTHING depends entirely on which feminist you ask.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 5:41:32 PM   
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I already dont get this, feminists are for sex, and here I thought girls were for giving head. Waltz me thru the machinations here, girls.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 5:42:39 PM   
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You're confusing me. I'm for sex AND giving head.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 5:44:34 PM   
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and dont you think you should have thought about that before you burned your bra and I caught you speeding?

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 9:03:30 PM   
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on your invisible gangdam style pony, sheriff?

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/1/2013 11:32:31 PM   
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I must not be a feminist then. Why should I settle for less? G-d forbid I become more like your average herd-mentality male.

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@ Vuilste: The only thing that all women who call themselves feminist have in common is that they all feel that women have rights just as men do. Other than that, the "feminist" view on ANYTHING depends entirely on which feminist you ask.


MEN, you can't live with 'em and you can't live without 'em. . . .

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 6:33:29 AM   
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I would like to start a discussion centering around feminist and postfeminist ideals with regards to women's sexuality. If feminist logic advocates equality for women in the workplace, what does this mean for women in the bedroom?


I guess it would depend on whose bedroom it is. I would presume equal rights would also include property rights, so whatever they want to do in their own bedroom is their own business. It's the same thing for men and what they choose to do in their bedrooms; it's their business.

The question is a bit difficult to tackle, since the bedroom is just a single room. It's everything that leads up to that point, that may have more meaning than what goes on in the actual bedroom. One may as well ask what it means for women in the bathroom. (In fact, issues about women's bathrooms seem to be brought up more than about women's bedrooms.)


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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 1:27:30 PM   
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I would like to start a discussion centering around feminist and postfeminist ideals with regards to women's sexuality. If feminist logic advocates equality for women in the workplace, what does this mean for women in the bedroom?



Nothing that I can see. it certainly hasn't meant anything for me in the bedroom :-)

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 1:29:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Contemporary feminism seems to be about liberating women's sexuality while trying to regiment men's.




There is not such thing as contemporary feminism. The word, as so many others, cover a broad aspect of views.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 1:31:14 PM   
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Contemporary feminism seems to be about liberating women's sexuality while trying to regiment men's.




There is not such thing as contemporary feminism. The word, as so many others, cover a broad aspect of views.



You said broad. That's sexist

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 1:31:23 PM   
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Life's too short to go into all the reasons why feminism is still needed and still valuable. But coming to focus on the kinky bedroom, every femsub I've ever had the pleasure to own has been a militant feminist, and every one has not needed to be told that her liberation includes the freedom to submit to the Master she chooses.



Exactly so.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 1:36:07 PM   
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Contemporary feminism seems to be about liberating women's sexuality while trying to regiment men's.




There is not such thing as contemporary feminism. The word, as so many others, cover a broad aspect of views.



You said broad. That's sexist



Nevertheless ;-)

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/2/2013 4:59:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TigressLily

I must not be a feminist then. Why should I settle for less? G-d forbid I become more like your average herd-mentality male.

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

@ Vuilste: The only thing that all women who call themselves feminist have in common is that they all feel that women have rights just as men do. Other than that, the "feminist" view on ANYTHING depends entirely on which feminist you ask.


MEN, you can't live with 'em and you can't live without 'em. . . .

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/4/2013 5:43:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

IMO, feminism has different views inside and outside the bedroom. Outside, things are pretty simple - encourage women to go into traditionally male fields (and vice versa), push for equal pay, and try to get women on equal status.


And also to get men into traditional female jobs - for instance, my former work in kindergartens definitely needs men as well as women, and so do schools, for the sake of the children. ( Many dare not because of hysteria about pedophiles, though :-( They are missed!
But that is a side track.)

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Inside, it gets sticky. There are quite a few female subs that consider themselves feminists. Traditional feminists might have issues with women getting tied up and beaten in the name of fun, but they can't argue with their claim that feminism doesn't define set roles for women as much as grants them permission to assume whatever role they want, even of it's a submissive one.


They can they do :-(
I think they are not very representative. The views of these radicals are so like the views of the men in Vitorian England, only opposite, but just as better-wisser.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/4/2013 5:48:47 AM   
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I must not be a feminist then. Why should I settle for less? G-d forbid I become more like your average herd-mentality male.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

@ Vuilste: The only thing that all women who call themselves feminist have in common is that they all feel that women have rights just as men do. Other than that, the "feminist" view on ANYTHING depends entirely on which feminist you ask.


MEN, you can't live with 'em and you can't live without 'em. . . .

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One wonders where the little babies come from, sometimes ;-)

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/4/2013 5:51:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TigressLily

I must not be a feminist then. Why should I settle for less? G-d forbid I become more like your average herd-mentality male.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

@ Vuilste: The only thing that all women who call themselves feminist have in common is that they all feel that women have rights just as men do. Other than that, the "feminist" view on ANYTHING depends entirely on which feminist you ask.


MEN, you can't live with 'em and you can't live without 'em. . . .

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That's why many rent.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/7/2013 9:54:21 PM   
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Without the concept of self-empowerment that feminism and other movements promoted when I was growing up, my sexuality could never have been expressed as openly as it was once I started coming of age in the 70s. It was often referred to as the Women's Liberation Movement. As I look back, I can see that I was greatly influenced by Simone de Beauvoir when I read her classic 1949 book The Second Sex and the works of cultural anthropologist Margaret Mead. These were accomplished women who led by example. Mead didn't have to label herself a feminist--she was a living example of it in action.

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ORIGINAL: Vuilste

I would like to start a discussion centering around feminist and postfeminist ideals with regards to women's sexuality. If feminist logic advocates equality for women in the workplace, what does this mean for women in the bedroom?


By and large, most of the feminists I encounter are sex positive


I've already mentioned that I was more influenced by men who were feminists, but that isn't entirely true. Part of crazyml's post got me to reflect upon this issue. Yes, I found myself getting aroused by the works of Female Supremacist Robert Graves when I couldn't have been more than the pre-pubescent age of 10 (Encyclopaedia of Classical Greek Mythology, The White Goddess), so this is what stands out in my mind. I was a precocious child, so I read every sex manual I could get my hands on, which were informative on some levels, not so much on others.

There was a pervasive climate of open sexuality, carried over from the Free Love, Let It All Hang Out 60s, and there's no way for me to know how much of it was due to feminism or other factors. I have no idea where the below commentary is coming from because I am a straight female who had sex with straight males, not other females (beyond adolescent experimentation), and there have always been plenty of willing males to choose from:

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Contemporary feminism seems to be about liberating women's sexuality while trying to regiment men's.


I may have been less inhibited than a lot of the guys were, but that was because I was usually more knowledgeable than they were about sexual matters, not because they felt they weren't free to express their heterosexuality. Believe me, nobody has to force a horny young male to have vanilla-style sexual relations. Judgmental sexual attitudes and double standards do exist, but I don't see where any of these arose from feminism. I stayed within relationships, so I was never judged harshly or looked upon by others as being promiscuous since I didn't have a bunch of sex partners. I never viewed sexual liberation as a license to have casual sex just because that's what the boys were doing. In fact, if it had been possible, I would have stayed with one man and only one man for all these years.

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/7/2013 10:02:52 PM   
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so, Steinem, Paglia and Greer all hire male subs so that with the money being used they control the sexual game as much as any "John" yet they all pay their male hookers to fuck them in the ass doggystyle with no trad-sex beforehand and with the Testicu-Whores obliged to spank the Uberfemists Asscheeks as they plunder the Khyber Pass.

Bearing in mind the number one publication of each Icon of feminizim, respectively, and their TV appearances, which one is the greater feminist for doing do, which is selling out, and which one merely wants the HBO documentary / TV series deal?

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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/9/2013 12:22:24 PM   
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Who's hiring male subs or any other kind of male hooker (gigolo, escort, what-have-you)? Why rent the bull when you can get all the beef you want for free?

And if you want to get technical about it, Gloria Steinem is nearly 80 (widowed from Christian Bale's father), Prof. Camille Paglia is a lesbian, and Dr. Germaine Greer is in her mid-70s (although The Guardian once called her a "middle-aged pederast" upon the publication of The Beautiful Boy, an illustrated art history [photo]book about the beauty of teenage boys).

Not exactly visuals with any basis in fact, nor ones I would care to picture.


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RE: Feminist Sex - 10/10/2013 12:23:42 AM   
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Paglia in the 90's, before the 'net' really took off was a self-stated bi sexual supporting a female sub's rights to still be a feminist and spoke of more than several male lovers. This led to strife with Steinem. What you can find on the net is not all there is to find. Having happily topped and fucked the N. O. W. woman who was second in command to Steinem's second in command back in the 90's, I probably got more of an earful of this than YOU ever did. But getting to doggy her and spank dem cheeks while she was being most submissive was a fair trade.

Greer has been with men and women of her own age in every variance of the sex act since she was out and about the 2 Australian Uni's where she was a student and later a vaunted academic, having worked with several people in the tenure-pool who - shall we say - have been close enough to the family to share anecdotes about when germaine flirted with them, including older straight men. If you've experience in Australia of that time or are related to people who 'were there' then this conversation will get VERY interesting.

;)

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