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Kirata -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 3:55:38 PM)

~ FR ~

The Barrycades are coming down! The Barrycades are coming down! 

(Well no, not really ... just at the National Mall for a rally October 8th)

[image]local://upfiles/235229/919A8147DF2A4FF49F794D4E8A4307B1.jpg[/image]

Tens of thousands will come to the National Mall to share stories of suffering and strength ... starting with a somber reading of the names of people who have died at the border or been deported

Park Service OKs immigration reform rally

About 30 members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. The event is hosted by several immigration activist groups, together with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the AFL-CIO.

It's almost as if they're celebrating criminality.

K.




Lucylastic -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 4:15:54 PM)

I guess they cleaned up the stain fron the chap who set himself on fire there over the weekend...good stuff eh?




Owner59 -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 4:22:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

~ FR ~

The Barrycades are coming down! The Barrycades are coming down! 

(Well no, not really ... just at the National Mall for a rally October 8th)

[image]local://upfiles/235229/919A8147DF2A4FF49F794D4E8A4307B1.jpg[/image]

Tens of thousands will come to the National Mall to share stories of suffering and strength ... starting with a somber reading of the names of people who have died at the border or been deported

Park Service OKs immigration reform rally

About 30 members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. The event is hosted by several immigration activist groups, together with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the AFL-CIO.

It's almost as if they're celebrating criminality.

K.




And cancels a KKK rally.....Things aren`t working out for the gop are they?




Phydeaux -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 6:30:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

~ FR ~

The Barrycades are coming down! The Barrycades are coming down! 

(Well no, not really ... just at the National Mall for a rally October 8th)

[image]local://upfiles/235229/919A8147DF2A4FF49F794D4E8A4307B1.jpg[/image]

Tens of thousands will come to the National Mall to share stories of suffering and strength ... starting with a somber reading of the names of people who have died at the border or been deported

Park Service OKs immigration reform rally

About 30 members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. The event is hosted by several immigration activist groups, together with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the AFL-CIO.

It's almost as if they're celebrating criminality.

K.




And cancels a KKK rally.....Things aren`t working out for the gop are they?



Really.. you really think so.
You think no one else on the planet is smart enough to come up with

Obama: lets his cronies demonstrate on the mall - but won't let everyday americans visit.

Really?

More proof there are no brain cells in obamaland.




TheHeretic -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 6:42:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

~ FR ~

I swear, you just can't make this shit up...

Rushmore blockage stirs anger in S.D.

The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.

[image]local://upfiles/235229/B0AA400508954658891D5089AD7BE632.jpg[/image] 

If the Administration thinks that this kind of assholery is going to make people mad at the Republicans, can you spell "backfire"?

K.



Ho Lee Phuk. It's probably for the best I'm not running long haul anymore, because I'd run over every one of those fucking cones. The view is closed???




TheHeretic -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 7:06:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

and yet whinging about babies starving from TANF and SNAP cuts are ignored, or put down to emotional gotcha techniques.
I get it.. I really do




Or to lies told to the ignorant, Lucy...

WIC isn't going out, but the SNAP benefits did. November might be another story, but that is still a good ways off. I haven't seen a state-by-state, California is in fine shape with reserve funds for TANF to keep right on rolling.


K., read up a bit on how much increase SNAP has seen in the last 5 years, and what the proposed cuts actually were, and you might decide there is a lot less legitimacy to opposing them than you are willing to stipulate.

If the Dems are willing to watch the most dependable portion of their base go hungry next month, then we can steer this drift back on track by saying that closing off monuments and views won't produce anything like the backlash of the President expecting the poor to go on a hunger strike for his wounded pride, and refusal to accept the result of the Congressional elections since he came to power.




Lucylastic -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 7:27:33 PM)

Lies told to the ignorant by the ignorant indeed Rich, but not my side.... I know damn well what is happening iwth head start WIC and Tanf and SNAP.... I wasnt using it as an example of whats supposedly being cut, but the ignorance of the people who said it was emotional hand wringing and then crying over what they've done to veterans visiting a memorial.
HAH you are funny, cept when you arent...




TheHeretic -> RE: Barrycades (10/7/2013 7:45:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Lies told to the ignorant by the ignorant indeed Rich, but not my side.... I know damn well what is happening iwth head start WIC and Tanf and SNAP.... I wasnt using it as an example of whats supposedly being cut, but the ignorance of the people who said it was emotional hand wringing and then crying over what they've done to veterans visiting a memorial.
HAH you are funny, cept when you arent...



I really doubt that, Lucy. People aren't wringing their hands over the parks, they are regarding it as the slap in the face it is.




Kirata -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 3:09:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Things aren`t working out for the gop are they?

Are you kidding? The Administration is playing right into their hand. What with the WWII vets being blocked from the Memorial and elderly people being ordered out of their homes, Obama has been lurching from one public relations disaster to another. But opening the National Mall for a celebration of illegal immigration is the best one yet. In their wildest dreams, I doubt the GOP ever imagined they'd be as lucky as this.

Even though polls show the majority of Americans opposed to Obamacare, they're more opposed to the shutdown and have tended to blame the Republicans for it. But the majority of Americans also oppose illegal immigration, and opening the National Mall to an amnesty rally for the 11 million illegals in the country can only tip sentiment in the GOP's favor. Short of Obama's head on a platter, it just doesn't get any better.

K.




DomKen -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 5:43:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Things aren`t working out for the gop are they?

Are you kidding? The Administration is playing right into their hand. What with the WWII vets being blocked from the Memorial and elderly people being ordered out of their homes, Obama has been lurching from one public relations disaster to another. But opening the National Mall for a celebration of illegal immigration is the best one yet. In their wildest dreams, I doubt the GOP ever imagined they'd be as lucky as this.

Even though polls show the majority of Americans opposed to Obamacare, they're more opposed to the shutdown and have tended to blame the Republicans for it. But the majority of Americans also oppose illegal immigration, and opening the National Mall to an amnesty rally for the 11 million illegals in the country can only tip sentiment in the GOP's favor. Short of Obama's head on a platter, it just doesn't get any better.

K.

What fucking moronic nonsense. Americans love the ACA. The exchanges are still getting huge traffic and a lot of people who did not have insurance have signed up for insurance. Those voters will remember who helped them and who tried to hurt them. As long as Democrats hold firm no matter how insane the right wingers get the left in this nation will come out ahead and likely dominate politics for the next generation.




Yachtie -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 5:52:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
What fucking moronic nonsense. Americans love the ACA. The exchanges are still getting huge traffic and a lot of people who did not have insurance have signed up for insurance. Those voters will remember who helped them and who tried to hurt them. As long as Democrats hold firm no matter how insane the right wingers get the left in this nation will come out ahead and likely dominate politics for the next generation.



Traffic /= signups. Have any data?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 5:53:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Americans love the ACA.



Obviously we travel in different circles....




DomKen -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 6:29:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
What fucking moronic nonsense. Americans love the ACA. The exchanges are still getting huge traffic and a lot of people who did not have insurance have signed up for insurance. Those voters will remember who helped them and who tried to hurt them. As long as Democrats hold firm no matter how insane the right wingers get the left in this nation will come out ahead and likely dominate politics for the next generation.



Traffic /= signups. Have any data?

20,000 in Washington state
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021988723_acanumbersxml.html

No other state seems to have released data for the whole week. Since Washington has just under 7 million residents that represents about 1/50th of the nation's populations so it isn't out of the question that 1 million people have completed applications for health insurance.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 6:46:23 AM)

Maryland released their's...

A whopping 326!!!




DomKen -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 7:09:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Maryland released their's...

A whopping 326!!!


Apparently Maryland has had serious problems with their site.

But even with that the extrapolation to the entire country is still over 500k.




mnottertail -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 7:30:25 AM)

And there are people who visit the site and dont need to sign up. Like me. I have the VA. I am covered.




DomKen -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 9:31:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And there are people who visit the site and dont need to sign up. Like me. I have the VA. I am covered.

The numbers I gave we for signups not for site visits. healthcare.gov reported 9 million site visits in the first week.




Phydeaux -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 12:00:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
What fucking moronic nonsense. Americans love the ACA. The exchanges are still getting huge traffic and a lot of people who did not have insurance have signed up for insurance. Those voters will remember who helped them and who tried to hurt them. As long as Democrats hold firm no matter how insane the right wingers get the left in this nation will come out ahead and likely dominate politics for the next generation.



Traffic /= signups. Have any data?

20,000 in Washington state
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021988723_acanumbersxml.html

No other state seems to have released data for the whole week. Since Washington has just under 7 million residents that represents about 1/50th of the nation's populations so it isn't out of the question that 1 million people have completed applications for health insurance.



Snicker. A reliably democratic state. Lets run the numbers, shall we?

837,000 visits.
165,33s unique visitors
39,000 people made accounts
19, 452 people have applications
9452 people have bought insurance.


Really.. 9452 people. An amount of people that amazon handles in less than a minute.

You posit that enrollments will sky rocket once the kinks work out. I bet you a nickel enrollments after 15 days flatten out significantly lower until the end of the enrollment period. Essentially with all the hype you had people the early fanatics sign up. Democrat cronies, poor people, acorn navigators. But to say that 9000 represents an enormous success - well thats just lunacy.

1 person in 4 that visits the site establishes an account. I don't recall washington having problems with its exchange. So if that number doesn't rise.. Obamacare is in serious doo-doo.

So, before the rollout, Kaiser was predicting 24 million enrollees. By this metric they won't hit 12 million.
Terrible plan, terrible execution - but probably good enough that we are stuck with another !!@@@@ govt entitlement as they crash the employer healthcare model - which was the plan all along.








Kirata -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 3:34:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

What fucking moronic nonsense. Americans love the ACA.

This from a guy who calls other people divorced-from-reality dimwits. When you make shit up like this, are you aware that you're doing it? Or do you just assume that any idea that pops into your head must be true because of the pristine perfection of your mind?

Poll: Obamacare remains highly unpopular as implementation looms

A large number of Americans continue to adamantly oppose the nation’s new health-care law and believe it will produce damaging results, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Forty-four percent of respondents call the health-care law a bad idea, while 31 percent believe it's a good idea -- virtually unchanged from July's NBC/WSJ survey. By a 45 percent to 23 percent margin, Americans say it will have a negative impact on the country's health-care system rather than a positive one.

CNN Poll: Majority of Americans Oppose Obamacare

A majority of Americans oppose the healthcare legislative centerpiece of Barack Obama’s presidency...

Fifty-four percent of those polled oppose Obamacare, while 43 percent of those polled say they support the law as it stands. Both numbers are relatively unchanged since the bill was passed in 2010. Of those polled, 35 percent say the policy is too liberal while 16 percent say it’s not liberal enough.

As the Washington Post (that notorious right-wing rag) notes...

the health-care law continues to suffer from relatively low public support ~The Fact Checker

K.
 




thompsonx -> RE: Barrycades (10/8/2013 3:50:50 PM)

Yeah, the Washington Examiner. More truth found in one issue thereof than an entire year's worth of the Washington Post.

Perhaps you should check who owns the wp before posting such moronic bullshit.




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