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MrRodgers -> RE: Ending the shutdown? (10/7/2013 12:31:27 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
No surprise. This is going to be a war of public opinion at this point, with both the GOP Senators and Obama/Dem lawmakers each trying to score points with the electorate.
Obama should have the edge because:
1. Not much has changed since Newt pulled the same stunt.
2. Obama has the bully pulpit.
Except Bill Clinton did cave and negotiate. He even wound up being forced into a balanced budget (aided by increased revenue of the dotcom boom, of course) that he later claimed all the credit for. President Obama has not left himself any room to wiggle.
He's pretty much exhausted his bully pulpit too, from too much bullying, and too much bullshit. He's sharkjumping on a regular basis, and expects the media to keep right on carrying his water. That may not happen.
What Clinton agreed to was a pay as you go from that point on fiscal 1996 and he got his tax increase 4 years before that on a bill that every single repub voted against (senate...Gore broke a tie) saying the sky was going to fall. In his first state of the union address long before the shutdown, Clinton said the era of big govt. was over but was the only pres. in the 50 years to actually preside over a reduction in the federal payroll.
The last repub was Ike, and that was a post WWII reduction and the only conservative repub to occupy the white house in the 20th cent. unless one counts the incompetent but 'conservative' do nothing H. Hoover.
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