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Love your sig line!

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Oh-by the way- all this claptrap about the supreme court has ruled it constitutional:

There are plenty of grounds on which to challenge it.

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2. As I learned in law school, as far as litigation goes, the supreme court isn't last because it's right, it's right because it's last.

Learn the difference.

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between the sequester, the last debt ceiling and various other bills, etc, how much has been cut from spending???

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Wrong. No, increase in the debt limit means there will not be sufficient cash on hand to service the debt and do all the other things the country must, by law, pay for as well. Since they cannot do all of those things then, since none are given priority all would receive less than is needed and one missed interest payment means the US defaults on all bonds presently in circulation and that means the collapse of the world economy as interest rates throughout the developed world go through the roof.

I assume you are a person of average intelligence. If you will read your paragraph carefully, word by word, you will find at least some of your errors.

One word at a time. Think about that ONE word. After you do that, then go to the next word.

Your third sentence is the most entertainingly in error. We clearly do have priorities.... because 80% plus of government has been up and running regardless.... Not to mention, the House has been setting priorities like mad for a week. Even if the Senate resents priorities, cause they aren't the Senate's priorities. Must have socialized medicine, must have socialized medicine, must have socialized medicine. :)

"defaults" on "all" bonds. You sure about that? You want to rethink that? You think the U.S. government issued "all" bonds on the same date? Do you think they "all" come due on the same date?

"interest rates through the roof" Interest rates now are so low they are impeding investment, as no one finds risk worth a paltry 1% return.

Other big errors here, but you get the drift..... Remember, one word at a time.

All right fun is fun. This has got to be one of the best imitations of batshit insane right wingers I've seen in a long time. Come forward and take your bows.

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Do you seriously think the federal government can operate on a cash basis? You couldn't run a car dealership on a cash basis, let alone a complex organization that employs 2 million people and has a huge variety of long-term projects, millions of bills, and an irregular cashflow. It would impossible.

Just another person scoring points, by slinging words together, that SOUND close to the same, but are not the same things.

I wasn't suggesting the government use no cash management. I was simplifying a concept that was perhaps too complex for some people. Evidently, also for you.

My, my, so many imprecise thinkers, so little time!

You're implicitly stating the government is borrowing money to engage in cash management, while we all know that it's borrowing approx. $850 Billion a year, to indulge in its overspending habits -NOT to ensure payment for operating expenses until tax receipts come in.

Scoring points, scoring points.... No one wants to be serious about stopping Rome from burning. Nero loved the show, too! Bravo!!!!!

I say again: BRAVO!!!!

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Oh-by the way- all this claptrap about the supreme court has ruled it constitutional:
There are plenty of grounds on which to challenge it.
and
2. As I learned in law school, as far as litigation goes, the supreme court isn't last because it's right, it's right because it's last.
Learn the difference.

Now this is almost funny if it wasn't ridiculous. Are you actually saying the supreme court doesn't decide whicjh laws are in fact constitutional and thus a law that congress is charged to enforce ? Since when ? Can you give me an example ? Let me guess, the 2nd amend. then doesn't really confer an individual the right to bear arms ?

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between the sequester, the last debt ceiling and various other bills, etc, how much has been cut from spending???

Fiscal 2008 deficit...$1.4 trillion. Fiscal 2012 deficit...$600 billion.

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don't support: HHS (health & human services), portions of Civil rights act of 1964, attorneys fees as part of section 1983 actions (that's why all the crosses are coming down- and I'm an atheist! But respect, be thy name!) trying to think...cabinet level offices.... more coffee! Don't support ADA "Americans with disabilities act; TSA (my my all those illegals just walking in, but Americans MUST be groped! Love Obama!);

Help me here: what else is not enumerated in the constitution?

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The reason they're called that, the reason it's funny, is because they were going on TV talking about "teabagging" the government (by sending them bags of tea as an act of protest). They were going on TV saying that! It was hilarious. If you can't laugh at grown heterosexual men talking about how they want to "teabag" Congress, you need to lighten up a little.

That's not the reason they're called "teabaggers" and its disingenuous of you to say so.

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As long as the US Dollar is the world currency, we are golden.

You got that right. The US dollar is the world standard because we always pay our debts. We never default, even if (like now) we have to borrow more money to pay back what we owe now.

But the moment we fail to raise the debt ceiling, and either 1) default on the debts that are about to come due or 2) shut down most essential functions of the federal government, the world is going to stop viewing us as the stablest country with the stablest currency.

If the GOP drives us off this cliff, we're going to see the world flee the dollar. The value of our currency is going to go through the floor, and people will stop lending to us or greatly raise our interest rates. We'll be forced to dramatically raise taxes and cut whole government programs and go into severe, economy-hobbling austerity measures.

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Watch for more nations to dump dollars as the US's economic fissures grow deeper.

If Boehner doesn't change is tune, this is absolutely what's going to happen.

Gosh, because we "always pay our debts." Lots of places always pay their debts. Try again!

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Do you seriously think the federal government can operate on a cash basis? You couldn't run a car dealership on a cash basis, let alone a complex organization that employs 2 million people and has a huge variety of long-term projects, millions of bills, and an irregular cashflow. It would impossible.

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Do you seriously think the federal government can operate on a cash basis? You couldn't run a car dealership on a cash basis, let alone a complex organization that employs 2 million people and has a huge variety of long-term projects, millions of bills, and an irregular cashflow. It would impossible.

Just another person scoring points, by slinging words together, that SOUND close to the same, but are not the same things.

I wasn't suggesting the government use no cash management. I was simplifying a concept that was perhaps too complex for some people. Evidently, also for you.

My, my, so many imprecise thinkers, so little time!

You're implicitly stating the government is borrowing money to engage in cash management, while we all know that it's borrowing approx. $850 Billion a year, to indulge in its overspending habits -NOT to ensure payment for operating expenses until tax receipts come in.

Scoring points, scoring points.... No one wants to be serious about stopping Rome from burning. Nero loved the show, too! Bravo!!!!!

I say again: BRAVO!!!!

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