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lovethyself -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/9/2013 6:29:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

Y'all have missed the absolute best part of Halloween:

Women who would normally never even think about dressing like sluts, dress like sluts. Brilliant!



Um.... I think Kana mentioned that in about the second or third post. You're right though, there is some yummy eye candy out there on Hallowe'en (the legal kind, of course).




littlewonder -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/9/2013 7:53:57 PM)

imo, the reason you don't see scarey costumes anymore is because in our society today we are surrounded by gruesomeness every single moment of our day. Turn on the tv and you see it. We have neighborhoods where it gets worse and worse everyday. Crime and violence are just a part of our everyday vernacular now. Halloween now is more of a time to forget the violence of our lives. We're tired of it. So we use Halloween as simply a time to get all dressed up as our dreams and fantasies and just have fun.






NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/9/2013 11:37:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I didn't realize there was anyone who hadn't already hidden bimbo.

But here, meaning this town, it's a kids parade down Main Street. Ending up at the firehouse where they are given a big Hershey bar and an apple. New York State is second in the nation in apple production and Ulster County, only two hours out of Manhattan is the largest apple producing county in the state.

Following that, older kids go out trick or treating, little kids go out before the parade. And if your porch lights are off, nobody rings your bell.

And the local bakery hosts Night of 1000 Pumpkins. With several categories to compete in, and free hot cider to drink. There are always local artists who enter with elaborate landscapes carved.

And since this is farm country. some point in October you go out pumpkin picking and do the corn maze which also can get quite elaborate. We shan't discuss the time my son was eight and had to guide me out of the maze.

If it wasn't always cold by Halloween, it would be better. A three year old in a princess dress with a parka on top just doesn't do it.
And one year I found my then tween a hoodie painted like King Tut, so he wore that for both warmth and costume.


actually, plenty haven't. They merely aren't scarfing the non Halloween Candy Called Gormless Passive Aggresties, brought to you by Willy Wanker, the emasculated by netiquette inbred cousin of Willy Wonka.

But if this post has been hidden then you won't need to complain to anyone.

"Would you care to explain the bolded so I can decide whether or not I am offended? "

you have your version and we have ours, and England has her own (seen in a recent episode of Midsommer Murders, featuring the lead actor from Dalziel and Pascoe, dealing with The Horned Man traditions, in fact).

Country people are not hayseeds. Car mechanics are not grease-monkeys. Surf Champions are not waxheads (an Aussie term). Regional Australians are not Bogans (please treat yourself to an episode of Housos on SBS, btw, which is online for free streaming, to explain what a bogan means). But anyone who comes from either wankipedia basded culture or work-with-your-hands culture can be industrious, while having a lazy-ass counterpart next to them. There is a massive difference between Martin Scorsese and "The Situation" on The Jersey Shore. If you are a country person that doesn't merely go with whatever is easiest and fits-with-the-group, then no, please do not be offended.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/9/2013 11:49:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

imo, the reason you don't see scarey costumes anymore is because in our society today we are surrounded by gruesomeness every single moment of our day. Turn on the tv and you see it. We have neighborhoods where it gets worse and worse everyday. Crime and violence are just a part of our everyday vernacular now. Halloween now is more of a time to forget the violence of our lives. We're tired of it. So we use Halloween as simply a time to get all dressed up as our dreams and fantasies and just have fun.





a very good point, but...

with the Irish, back in the days when people believed in things that came from pre Christian belief structure (such as The Morrigu, pagan goddess of War, perched in her Raven Form on the shoulder of the bronze statue of the national hero of Ireland, Cu Chullain, the Hound of the Forge, who is also the grandson of the most important pre-Christian god in Irish culture... and this statue is featured in a place of pride in a building that represented the New Republic, free of Rule Britannia, btw),

The Dead coming back was a right which they'd earned, frankly. They were scary because piece-of-shit living people had wronged them in Life and never made amends, or had shown utter lack of respect after their death. The Dead were free to punish the living and in fact many of the non-human individuals in the Irish Tableau were free to join in, and things that had never been beholden to a Human shape could be QUITE horrendous indeed (unlike wank-ass snot bubbles in Blair Witch and paw prints in flour in paranormal Activity which only the most playstation-addicted neurologically atrophied game-teats would find 'scary').

The 'costume' thing came from a sense of self-preservation and a human need to avoid punishment: you dressed yourself as the Dead, and as the non human creatures who accompanies the Dead, you created a scary affect for yourself to blend in with Those Who Came Back, so they'd ignore you and move on.


THAT'S the mask aspect.

You had the EXPENSIVE food ready for them to enjoy as a sign of Respect. To make amends or merely acknowledge what they'd done for your Clannadhe beforehand, and recognize that you'd be dealing with the Dead after you shuffled off the mortal coil.

There you have the Treats.

What housewives, smug about 'hiding buttons' but likely to have no achievements outside from posting snarkies won't understand, what such intellectual 'mutton-done -up-as-lamb - addicted to TV soaps - dismissive of such histories because they have 8 million tweets to reply to, means nothing, but that's a lot of why the costumes are no longer scary. Like these housewives with the snarkie button so hot from the pressing likely have fetish outfits not much higher on the scale than what could be bought at K Mart.

Belief in a non Abrahamic-based afterlife with rules that Mormons and Evangelists have no say in, the same folk that tend to like images of jesus with blonde hair and blue eyes, well, it does not sit well with them. The most UNscary version of the Devil himself is Christian, and dare I say, post Benjamin Franklin Christian.





SerWhiteTiger -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 12:45:34 AM)

Seriously, guys.

CANDY!




PyrotheClown -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 1:11:29 AM)

Don't know what Halloween the op has been experiencing fer the last few years,but me and some my buddies do Damn fine haunted house every single year(a few exceptions as of late,due to work and life and such).Gone all out,using real chainsaws(minus the chain)and real jackhammers fer the gorey noise makers.Make up aint exactly hollywood,but fake blood is fake blood,spew out nuff from yer mouth as you scream wildly and yer performance is sold.I personally make it a point to make a least one grown adult piss them selves(evil giggle).

To the op,don't bitch bout Halloween become'n boring cause yer friends are.
Bitch at yer friends for being boring on Halloween.


here's a simple party tradition that my folks do every time they have a Samhain parties..
Assign someone to be the "lord of missrule"
this persons task is to create mischief,to keep the party going
the means of incentives change depending on the crowd,but I'm sure you can figure the rest out.




thishereboi -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 7:35:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

imo, the reason you don't see scarey costumes anymore is because in our society today we are surrounded by gruesomeness every single moment of our day. Turn on the tv and you see it. We have neighborhoods where it gets worse and worse everyday. Crime and violence are just a part of our everyday vernacular now. Halloween now is more of a time to forget the violence of our lives. We're tired of it. So we use Halloween as simply a time to get all dressed up as our dreams and fantasies and just have fun.






That could be. My niece has been popping out babies for a few years now and I admit I was day dreaming about creating a little monster out of my nephew. Last week I asked him what he wanted to be and he told me he wants to be a strawberry. Guess i will have to save the scary stuff for his sister.




MasterCaneman -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 11:14:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger

Seriously, guys.

CANDY!

Stay on target...stay on target...[;)]




DesFIP -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 1:13:21 PM)

Kitkat bars
Followed by Butterfingers




Marc2b -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 1:17:59 PM)

Butterfingers are illegal... c'mon, fork 'em over!




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/10/2013 11:04:15 PM)

But of course the scariest thing about modern Halloween is shit like White Chocolate versions of standard goodies like Kit Kats.





SerWhiteTiger -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 12:43:36 AM)

If you want to ruin good adult fun, all you have to do is offer free candy to children where it's happening. Pretty simple.




SerWhiteTiger -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 12:45:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

But of course the scariest thing about modern Halloween is shit like White Chocolate versions of standard goodies like Kit Kats.




We used to dream of just getting Kit-Kats when I was a kid. Even a white chocolate Kit-Kat is way better than those terrible candies that came in the solid orange and black wrappers and butterscotch. You must have trick-or-treated in the rich neighborhoods.




SerWhiteTiger -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 12:48:25 AM)

Sadly, I've eaten all the good candy out of my bag from when I was trick-or-treating at Disney World with my family a couple weeks ago.

Yes, they start in September!

And at Disney World, even the adults get to trick-or-treat! First time I've trick-or-treated in over 20 years. Frickin awesome, lol.




ShaharThorne -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 12:51:28 AM)

No trick or treaters here except maybe the kiddos in my brother's family. Might get a bag of 3 musketeers or a minis and let them have it.

Sometimes I do a ritual or two, honoring the new year. Mom knows if there is candles in the bedroom, do not go in. I might be nekkid.




zubedangina -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 2:41:04 AM)

Halloween is my absolute favorite holiday. I don't think it used to be, it only became that sometime after the college years, mostly because every October for the last 10 years my best friend and I get together to do something fun. Some years it's as simple as having margaritas while carving pumpkins, or hitting a haunted house, two halloweens ago we went to Vegas for a week. That was awesome. We hit the fetish and fantasy ball and a ton of haunted houses. Some of the costumes at the ball were very impressive, you had a ton of "yippie! let us dress up as sluts, but some people went all out and had very elaborate costumes.

It was great fun. I'm not sure what we are doing this year yet. But I'm looking forward to it.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/11/2013 9:30:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger


quote:

ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

But of course the scariest thing about modern Halloween is shit like White Chocolate versions of standard goodies like Kit Kats.




We used to dream of just getting Kit-Kats when I was a kid. Even a white chocolate Kit-Kat is way better than those terrible candies that came in the solid orange and black wrappers and butterscotch. You must have trick-or-treated in the rich neighborhoods.


oh hell no, I got some CRAP, trust me. I got hippie ass wanks passing off CAROB. FUCK CAROB. I was referring to some of the trendy wanky shit that's been marketed in the past 10 years or so.

the WORST shit was that crappy stuff they sometimes sold at petrol stations/gas stations, that dusty pseudo-orange nasty garbage they called 'orange slices' when they tasted like biopsies from a fucking 3000 year old Mummy spray-painted with fake-tan from Jersey Shore.




kallisto -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/12/2013 5:46:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger


We used to dream of just getting Kit-Kats when I was a kid. Even a white chocolate Kit-Kat is way better than those terrible candies that came in the solid orange and black wrappers and butterscotch. You must have trick-or-treated in the rich neighborhoods.



That was me too ... [:)] All our neighbors must have shopped at the local "dollar" store.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/12/2013 6:20:03 PM)

hey, dollar store candies could be wonderful. I remember a place in the South West, in the desert, that could only afford to sell candies if they 'fell off the back of a truck', and they sold at 25% or less of real-town prices. 2¢ for a jolly roger hard candy and not just that nasty cinnamon flavour. $1 for 50 jolly rodgers, slightly old? who cares? it's boiled candy.

I took a reeses's that was worth 60¢ at the time, sold it to another kid for 30¢, used that to buy 15 jolly rodgers.

sound economics of Halloween.




egern -> RE: What has happened to horror and holloween? (10/15/2013 1:04:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
I really need a Halloween party.


Me too! It is the really really deep breath you take before Winter sets in - it takes a lot of running up to get through Winter for me.

Kiddies scare, candles candles candle, yummy food, remember the dead, trick and treat, a good laugh, it all helps :-)





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