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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 4:43:30 PM   
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Well, at least the MystressWorld formal application questionnaire was enlightening as I had not known there were (only?) 5 types of submissive men:


You know they are a scam. You know they are not respected. And you have decided that you still believe what they are saying? I'm sure there are more than 5 types of submissive men. The one that comes to mind is the... companion/partner/sweetheart/husband kind. Just a thought.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 5:25:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium



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8a. If yes, was it sweet and juicie? ...


Oh FFS, j u i c i e? Really? For what 'training' costs through 'My stress world' I would expect complete literacy and proper spelling. Perhaps I should offer to proofread their site and written material (for a small fee, of course!)




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11. Ever served a Black Domme?
11c. Do you know that Black women tend be sexually "larger" just as Black Men are?




Racial profiling is distasteful and likely a TOS violation but I can't be arsed to go look it up.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:04:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium


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ORIGINAL: lizi
It includes a TOS violation as well


Pray tell. I don't know what the violation is.
Please advise.


This site takes very seriously any underage involvement as it is illegal - this is outlined in the TOS. The questionnaire you posted has an illegal connection to minors in it. Just one more way to show you and anyone else that MystressWorld is shit, and tries pandering to the lowest to get a few bucks.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:14:24 PM   
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I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask.

buuuuuuuuuuut.

What is fifth day service?

I really shouldn't ask.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:15:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

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11. Ever served a Black Domme?
11c. Do you know that Black women tend be sexually "larger" just as Black Men are?




Racial profiling is distasteful and likely a TOS violation but I can't be arsed to go look it up.

There does appear to be a statistical variation in vagina size, from ethnicity to ethnicity. Black women, on average, have vaginas that are slightly deeper/longer than other women. Vaginal tightness, on the other hand, seems to depend entirely on other factors, like exercise and childbirth.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:43:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask.

buuuuuuuuuuut.

What is fifth day service?

I really shouldn't ask.

Aww, sunny, do you want an answer or a puzzle game? I'm guessing the puzzle!

Fifth day of what?

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:54:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask.

buuuuuuuuuuut.

What is fifth day service?

I really shouldn't ask.

Aww, sunny, do you want an answer or a puzzle game? I'm guessing the puzzle!

Fifth day of what?

My guess is her period. Red wings and all that.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 6:58:29 PM   
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I think so too. There's a whole "have sex on the fifth day" thing. I've never seen it in an oral sex context before, but what else could it be?

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 7:01:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

0. Which type(s) of male submissive are you?
SS Sex Slave:
BB Bad Boy:
SB Sissy Boy:
MB Mommie's Boy:
BD: Bitch Dog Boy:


I'm going to suggest that you seriously question the validity of a site that reduces submission down to kinky sex. Because that's all that list is.


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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 7:40:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I think so too. There's a whole "have sex on the fifth day" thing. I've never seen it in an oral sex context before, but what else could it be?


No wonder lots of men are so afraid of women!! Who else do you know that bleeds 5 days straight and DOESN'T DIE!?

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 7:57:00 PM   
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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 10:25:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I do hope that you've had a read through some of the links that you were able to find through the search feature.


The one thing missing, is what the general cost is for the various types of "membership".
I'm just curious as to the order of magnitude (i.e., number of zeroes).

BTW, I found this relevant hint on the blogs: mystressworld dot blogspot dot com
quote:

There is a very simple rule in the Universe of Mystress World for the boys, you either keep up your membership and move up in the Domme Corps members grading or you move out. There is no room for tardiness in the Universe of Mystrss World.... To put it inot real numbers, out of 100 applicants, 20 will make it into boot camp. Out of those 20, only 4 are really going to be moving forward from there. In real terms that means that there is at best a 4% success rate!


So, I guess, 96% of the submissive males who have been contacted by this user wouldn't know the answer to the question, and, that means 100% of the submale boys who have not been contacted also wouldn't know the answer.

I guess the Dommes know the answer?


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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 10:34:49 PM   
Ilyrium


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
You know they are a scam. You know they are not respected.


Actually, I 'know' very little. Honestly.

I read a lot. But almost everything written about it is from the perspective of someone who smells a fish under the table. Or, from the perspective of someone trying to sell it. I smell the same fish, but, that doesn't mean I UNDERSTAND what it is. And, I don't believe everything a salesperson spouts either.

So, what I know is very little - but what I suspect is a lot.

As far as I can tell, nobody actually knows what 'really' is the cost, for example,probably since nobody who has posted has actually been a member (either the sub male or the Domme female). Let me be clear, I'm NOT defending the approach as I really don't know all that much about it - I'm just trying to understand it. And, now my interest is piqued as to what the cost is. I am NOT going to pay (any) cost (my profile should make that clear); but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in how the process (appears) to work.

Of course, it may just as well be like the Nigerian scams, where the cost is whatever the fool is willing to throw away, penny after time after quarter ... but I don't actually know whether there is a fixed cost, or not.

I'm pretty sure it's a scam - but - being an educated scientist, I would gather more data before declaring anything of value.

I suspect it could easily cost hundreds (more?) of dollars - but - I just as well suspect that nobody actually knows that answer. Right?

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 10:57:00 PM   
Ilyrium


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I think so too. There's a whole "have sex on the fifth day" thing. I've never seen it in an oral sex context before, but what else could it be?


I googled it, and you're right:
http://roxiefox.wordpress.com/about/
quote:


“Golden Moment” refers to the sharing of a Dommes “Golden Nectar” (urine) with Her submissive and within MystressWorld this is considered to be a very special gift of the Domme to Her sub and vice versa. The Golden Nectar is charged with female hormones that are passed on to the submale who effectively is receiving some of the essence of his owner.

“Fifth Day Service” refers to oral service of the Domme on the 5th day of Her menstruation which is known to be the day of the greatest discharge and also the sweetest and again refers to the gift of Her Essence from the Domme to the submale who, in Mystress World, should aspire to being permitted oral service on the 5th day.


BTW, googling for that term came up with two filled out forms (no, not mine!) in a public forum:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Grab_Life_By_The_Balls-Girl/conversations/topics/223?var=1
... and ...
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Grab_Life_By_The_Balls-Girl/conversations/topics/255

PS: I don't see any violations of the TOS as the black Domme vaginal size isn't offensive (from my "white" perspective anyway); and, I just don't see any reference to minors (nor do I want to).

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 11:34:55 PM   
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Curious, I started reading the posts that you referenced by changing the last number, one by one, until I came up with this post
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Grab_Life_By_The_Balls-Girl/conversations/topics/244

This appears to be the questionnaire on other side of the coin.
Here is another MystressWorld Domme registering
her intention to bid at the UPCOMING AUCTION !
***************************************
 

Domme name:  15660 Ms Marianne TX
My Age is [ ] 44 or below     [X) 45 or more

What I look for in a new boy:  Willingness is the biggest key, willingness to accept ideas and pushing beyond his comfort zone in order to better serve.  A boy must be honest, with himself as well as with me, and must be communicative.

For the boy who makes IP with me, his initial
training will most likely include:   CFNM, spanking or whipping, OSODD, humiliation

And, this could lead to: a permanent place in my stable for part-time service

Discipline in my home will include:  spanking/whipping, denial of privileges, additional duties

Sex for the boy will likely be:  primarily with his tongue and secondarily with a strap on


Finally, for the boy who thinks he would like to
serve me, I would say this (100 words or less)
Know that details are important.  It's always the little things that count the most.... those little extra things above what is asked, but also those little things that are missed.  Pay attention.  Don't get in a hurry.   Oh, did I say pay attention?

Mistress Marianne

 

****************************************
This DC will be bidding in the next AUCTION
****************************************
 
A MystressWorld Domme is a member of the
Domme Corps .. a true-life Dominant woman,
mentored by Mystress as she absorbs our
philosophies, learns the techniques, and hones
her skills ... all at the same time in pursuit of
good boys (adult submales) to become a part
of her real, actual, private and personal life
for the betterment of both.    IP is the goal.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/15/2013 11:54:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium
The one thing missing, is what the general cost is for the various types of "membership".
I'm just curious as to the order of magnitude (i.e., number of zeroes).

BTW, I found this relevant hint on the blogs: mystressworld dot blogspot dot com
quote:

There is a very simple rule in the Universe of Mystress World for the boys, you either keep up your membership and move up in the Domme Corps members grading or you move out. There is no room for tardiness in the Universe of Mystrss World.... To put it inot real numbers, out of 100 applicants, 20 will make it into boot camp. Out of those 20, only 4 are really going to be moving forward from there. In real terms that means that there is at best a 4% success rate!


So, I guess, 96% of the submissive males who have been contacted by this user wouldn't know the answer to the question, and, that means 100% of the submale boys who have not been contacted also wouldn't know the answer.

I guess the Dommes know the answer?

You do recognize the hook of the sales pitch here, right?

It's not like it's a one time fee. You keep paying as you go along. The longer you stick with it, the higher your final tab. Just depends on how much money you want to throw in the hole.

There was one poster here who signed up for the MystressWorld gig. For the first year or so that I was here on the forums, he did post some positive things about it. He really believed that if he could get through the "training" that he really would get to meet someone. It didn't happen that way.

Kind of a shame, really. He came across as a pretty decent guy. Funny, too. Most of his posts were joking in nature.

He tapered off his posting after a time. I always felt bad for him because of the way it had turned out. I don't think he's posted in the last six months.



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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/16/2013 2:48:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask. I know I shouldn't ask.

buuuuuuuuuuut.

What is fifth day service?

I really shouldn't ask.

Aww, sunny, do you want an answer or a puzzle game? I'm guessing the puzzle!

Fifth day of what?

My guess is her period. Red wings and all that.



I never would have guessed...

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/16/2013 6:35:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
There was one poster here who signed up for the MystressWorld gig. For the first year or so that I was here on the forums, he did post some positive things about it. He really believed that if he could get through the "training" that he really would get to meet someone. It didn't happen that way.

Kind of a shame, really. He came across as a pretty decent guy. Funny, too. Most of his posts were joking in nature.

He tapered off his posting after a time. I always felt bad for him because of the way it had turned out. I don't think he's posted in the last six months.

Lady Pact is talking about a much-loved poster here, whose main goal seemed to be to make femdoms laugh -- a welcome change from all the guys who post wank threads. At some point, it came out that he was a paying member of MystressWorld. He would defend MystressWorld when it was brought up in threads, and people would try to change his mind about the place. He was a little off, and he had an unusual face -- not a pretty one -- so maybe he thought MW was the best he could do.

Something changed, and his posts started getting nastier. This was especially true with women who were part-time or full-time prodommes. He eventually stopped posting altogether. Someone on this thread asked where domiguy and Jeffff are now. Those two jokers moved to Fet, though I don't know whether they still post, even there. The MW customer, though, didn't move to Fet. He disappeared. Honestly, if he decided to abandon internet kink, it might have been for the best. It's a story that made me a bit sad as I watched it unfold.

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/16/2013 11:21:13 AM   
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I tried the trick of reading scores of posts to that Yahoo group by the Mystress World lady, and I do get an idea of what she's about.

It seems, on the face of things, if we remove the financial aspect (which changes everything, I know), she appears to recruit two types of paying customers.

1. Dommes who apparently train subboys, first online, and then in real time.
2. Submissive males, who learn the rules of engagement through a multi-step regimen

Nobody seems to know for sure, but, it seems that the males pay repeatedly to "move up through the levels", culminating, one would presume, with what they call IP (in person) service to what they call the "DC" (Domme Corps).

It's not clear whether the female Dommes pay for the privilage of both training and then owning the males, but, one would presume they do. Certainly they "bid" for the initial training of the males once the males complete their application - that much is certain - but exactly what (money?) they bid is not stated in the Yahoo groups messages.

One can get an idea of the many steps the men have to hurdle by reading this one post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Grab_Life_By_The_Balls-Girl/conversations/topics/277

That post shows that just to orally serve the Domme on her demand (what they call OSODD), takes, apparently, takes a baker's dozen
quote:


OSODD, as I have developed the concept today,
has 13 Stages, here below .. each in but a single word.

Stage 1 .. Priming
Stage 2 .. Doing
Stage 3 .. Liking
Stage 4 .. Wanting
Stage 5 .. Needing
Stage 6 .. Addiction
Stage 7 .. Power
Stage 8 .. Indeed
Stage 9 .. Golden
Stage 10 .. Crimson
Stage 11 .. D&s*xuality
Stage 12 .. Clean-up
Stage 13 .. Destiny


While, in retrospect (and after discussing this offline with the posters above), there don't appear to be any TOS violations in the original missive (not youth, not bestiality, not racism), there does still appear to be some kind of racial bias toward black Dommes throughout the posts that I read, e.g., in that same URL you see:
quote:


My first formal mentor in FemDomination Black Woman whom I knew only as MadamDomme. She told me right up front that white males were far more likely to be submale slave candidates than black or hispanic males. ... The white
male slave was always referred to as the "white boy" or simply the "boy". And the white boys would drop to the knees with hands behind the back whenever a Black Woman
entered the room. Black males of age were normally unzipped with genatalia
hanging out .. a not so subtle reminder to the whiteboy of his sexual inferiority.


And, the whole OSODD thing is apparently explained, in a nutshell, here:
quote:


I asked MadamDomme just what was the secret to her control over these whiteboys,...She smiled and said it was by training them to provide for oral sex on her demand. She smiled and said that while they willingly began providing it, they would become hooked on it .. and that was the key to enslaving them. She would laugh and say "enslaved, sure, but really just enslaved to their own desires". OSODD


Again, we find a bias toward blackness:
quote:

MadamDomme explained that ego made it more difficult for the "brother" to accept submission to feminine authority and the same she supposed for the Mexican male, that macho thing either way.

She said that small cocks and penis envy had a lot to do with the whiteboy (adult white male of any age) accepting and embracing submission.


And, there's that word "juicie" again:
quote:


White women can sometimes be so bland as to be "tasteless" but never a Black Women. The Black Woman, said MadamDomme can range from rough and animalistic to sweet, juicie, and downright intoxicating. She also contends, however, that if a boy licks and sucks long enough .. the former condition will transform into the latter. And once the boy experiences that, he is eager to work for the reward of that transformation no matter how long it may take. And will beg for the opportunity.


Anyway, I'm slowly trying to simply understand WHAT this is all about, in reality.
Most people assume, and we all know what that means.
I like to understand.

Still, I'm not paying a dime (and this post isn't endearing me to the lady, I'm quite sure). :)

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RE: Is the MystressWorld thing really real (or just yet... - 10/16/2013 2:52:47 PM   
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MystressWorld doesn't hold a candle to Cybele.

https://fetlife.com/users/1393020

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