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RE: Synesthesia - 10/21/2013 3:04:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TigressLily


Over here, I'm one. A pretty good one, if I do say so myself.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

... The Man bowls as a lefty but in 40 years has never seen a female lefty bowler.


With the family and other families, not on a bowling league, though.

Thanks for the m/f info. Do some females hide their left-handedness? I can't remember the last time I've seen one besides a customer service rep once in a blue moon.




Thank you. I will tell him I know a female lefty bowler. He will be amazed.

The only female lefthander I know is my sister. But you wouldn't normally notice it unless you're sitting next to one at table and bump elbows.

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RE: Synesthesia - 10/21/2013 10:23:27 PM   
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I'm unclear as to how knowing non-digital colour palettes has anything to do with perceptions. She could be visualizing pantone 648 when she sees the number 6, but to her it's going to be blue. Not having a name for a shade doesn't change the colour of the shade, just the ability for someone else to replicate that colour.

This thread was started on the topic of synthesia, not professional creativity.

I'm also not sure what you're trying to say about creative people. Am I now no longer to consider myself a musician despite my 20 years at the piano and 15 plus years playing fiddle because I've never been paid to do it? What about my hobby creative projects? I use the same skills I've honed through my career, often staying late in the shop to work on them. I've never sold one, because that's not my goal. I do it so I can express my creative side and sometimes to help me process some things. I have gifted them to many people though.


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Out of all the dvds you've PAID for, how many have been half-assed hobbyist "I burned this at home" dvds by friends or people on messageboards versus all the other dvd's you own?



I can't speak to dvds, but about 95 percent of the cd's I've purchased in the past number of years have been from the performer, usually at a show in a small venue or house concert, many pwyc covers at the door. Does that put them in the category of hobbyist in your mind? Many have jobs outside of music to support themselves. This day and age, you can set up a recording studio in your basement and get a decent recording (with the right tools and know how). I've never purchased music online, and don't have an itunes account (though I'm going to have to get one now that my mom gave me her ipod. ).

If you think that your words are only insulting to those that you are adressing personally, you're wrong. I've seen you make sweeping generalizations that by themselves aren't that bad, but you then feel the need to lace your opinion with insults towards anyone that your opinion is contrary to. I've repeatedly been insulted by your statements, if only by proximity (I'm in north america, and you've shown your feelings about our culture more than once). The sad part is I know you're capable of having intelligent, constructive discussion, and yet you choose to go the more negative route.


the nature of the beast never matters compared to the competency of the zookeepers.

I was always aware that at some point your views on creativity and mine one would butt-heads. You can say that you found my posts insulting, but it's also insulting for my other friends who have been successful buskers for 15 years, and studied music for 30 years, to hear someone else say "I am a musician" when that person has done nothing more than use garage-band to swipe and re-order music created by other people. And they've only been doing tat, via garageband, for less than a year.

If such a person equated themselves with YOU, Lovethyself, *I* would be offended.

But such an offense, both ways, is unavoidable. If a chiropractor with 2 years under their belt stated that they were of the same merit as someone who'd spent over 12 years of their life becoming one of the best spinal-cord-damage-specialist surgeons in the world, I imagine you would have the same problem with me if I said "Bullshit, not even close". maybe not, but I think it's likely.

A person who knows 5 shamanic prayers and can recite them well is not the same as someone willing to undergo rituals to become a shaman where they might suffer some physically hideous things. If you hang out in a new-age Mushroom Experience Group the mountains of Santa Cruz for a week, with people who claim one-64th lakota Sioux in their blood, it's not the same as going through what Carlos Castaneda went through, when he suffered the not-so-sweet effects of Peyote buttons.

And many times people who say "no sorry, that's incorrect" are labelled with the "negative" moniker. Which is fine but it does not in fact change whether or not someone else is hanging their hat on a "want" rather than something more extant than that.

And as for "The sad part is I know you're capable of having intelligent, constructive discussion, and yet you choose to go the more negative route.", that's passive aggressive which is just as aggressive and insulting as straight-out insulting. Ad again a double-edged scalpel: one could say it's sad with your world-experience that you want to confuse "feel-good pollyanna stuff" with open-heartedness at the expense of anything truly beneficial to anyone who might choose, of their own accord, to embrace what talents they have and possibly go past what is "the path most easy". And let's remember that the author of "The Road Less Travelled" had a follow-up book: "The People of the Lie", which basically renounced the bulk of what made said-authour famous in "The Road Less Travelled".

Adn if you want to get negative yourself (in a passive manner) and say "I've repeatedly been insulted by your statements, if only by proximity (I'm in north america, and you've shown your feelings about our culture more than once).", this seems like someone remembering the occasional bad comment while forgetting the greater amount of good ones. Like my comments about Texans? Like my comments about Chicago? My fond remembrances of New Mexico? Your point falls down from cherry-picking.

I've seen many people who had a great shot at going where they wanted to go when they were in their early years, and then got suckered into "just wish upon a star and it's the same as working at Parkes or NASA". And it ain't, and even in various Neo-Pagan Groups and re-constructionist circles, these folk regret falling into that "wish-fullfilment" quagmire.

You want positive? How about the notion I'd WANT Athena, 15 years from now, to be published or distributed or "craic'ed" in any way she'd be happy about, i a way where not only she could sleep well at night, but look at anyone in her life, point to something she'd done, and with pride say "I managed to pull that off, and people LOVED it. MILLIONS of people loved it."

You have not said, here, despite comments about "positive/negative", what you think Athena is CAPABLE of. You've merely reacted against my "anti-Neo-Pagan" sentiments, and drawn quite a long bow in your comments against such.

And to be honest, as much as you are basically saying "I am disappointed in you", I am at lEAST as disappointed in you. Taking a casual shot with candied language is STILL taking a casual shot. So at the very least, we are very much on the same footing, here.

There is no upprr-hand, even an un-admitted upperhand, to be gained by guilt-tripping, Lovethyself, because what you did above was in no way 'pagan' or post-tradiotional-creed'; it was absolutely what a 30-Rock cliched Catholic Nanna or Jewish Bubba would have said.

So no, that attempt at standardized-guilt-tripping carries no weight from someone who has said they are never comfortable with standardized Abrahamic stuff.



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RE: Synesthesia - 10/21/2013 10:27:28 PM   
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Indeed. Your post is moist, warm, brown and smells of bovine feces.

People with synesthesia don't necessarily have a reaction to everything in that way. One person may relate music to colours, another smells to textures, it doesn't mean that everyone will react to everything. Saying 'unless you feel xyz when you read posts on the internet, you don't have it' is silly, not to mention pointless, because any muppet can write a string of colours and textures anyway. Synesthesia isn't some super awesome thing only cool kids have - I don't know why anyone would feel the need to make it up for bragging rights.

Calling me a fan-girl is a bizarre twist. Whether I'm a published author, first violin at the halle, or someone who draws Harry Potter erotic fan art with crayolas, it doesn't mean I don't see the world in a certain way.

I think I'm going to have to stop discussing this with you. Your posts are not only offensive, but they often make wild tangential leaps which make sensible debate impossible. There are so many false assumptions and topic changes that I'm finding it difficult to untangle your meaning enough to address your points. Besides, you clearly enjoy the opportunity to make rude comments at the expense of a great many groups of people in order to show yourself in a better light (though it isn't working as well as you think). Like Grandpa always says, 'never wrestle a pig'.

Your need to call me names and cast aspersions on both my honesty and my creativity says more about you than it does about me.



"Your need to call me names and cast aspersions on both my honesty and my creativity says more about you than it does about me. "

no, it really says a lot about us BOTH. "Fangirl": that clearly struck a raw nerve with you. People who can HIRE you use terms like 'fan-girl' and 'fan-boy'. The fact that you refuse to accept this as an unofficial 'industry term' versus an 'insult' means nothing. It's not an insult. If I wanted to insult you I wouldn't give a shit if you ever became a person who rises above facebook/etsy/twitter creativity to being a person who gets to ENJOY being on the opposite side of the table at a 'signing' or not.

And unlike Lovethyself, I DO care about that, I DO want you to have what you want - creatively and professionally - for yourself, which is EASY to 'smell' on you, and I know that 'rub a crystal, light a candle, everybody feel good' stuff will ELIMINATE any chance of that for you, versus augment such chances.

I don't see anyone ELSE here offering to help you in any pragmatic way with any creative efforts. I can .

If you defend yourself in manners underlined via "Besides, you clearly enjoy the opportunity to make rude comments at the expense of a great many groups of people in order to show yourself in a better light (though it isn't working as well as you think). Like Grandpa always says, 'never wrestle a pig'. ", you cannot ask me to ignore what I've known for way too many years, which is that everyone who takes comfort in such things end up, 20 years from now, exactly where you are, here.

I have a feeling you are worth WAY more than that. And unlike other people, I could and would help. Instead of just adding penny-anny Pollyanna sentiments.

"Calling me a fan-girl is a bizarre twist. Whether I'm a published author, first violin at the halle, or someone who draws Harry Potter erotic fan art with crayolas, it doesn't mean I don't see the world in a certain way."

No, but taking succor in such things means you most likely will see the world you could have had fondly and from a distance, and wish you'd dispensed with the "Jiminy Cricket" bullshit.

And the real artist who does Harry Potter with traditional materials versus "easy" materials makes a shit-load of money and a 3rd of a year's rent, versus the fan/eros/Potter art with Crayolas that has to PAY money to be uploaded onto the net.

I think you REALLY want to be a professional.

And UNLIKE Lovethyself, I will actually be PROCATIVELY positive, rather than RETROACTIVELY positive, and say that due to your passion, I believe you CAN be a fully self-funded verging on financially successful creative person, if you JUST GIVE UP THE JIMINY CRICKET BULLSHIT.

And if you DO have any condition whatsoever, you need to consider that opportunity. And weigh up what that can mean to you 15 years from now, versus how you respond 15 minutes after reading this.

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RE: Synesthesia - 10/22/2013 3:24:56 AM   
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I only get synesthesia during migraine aura, and it tends to be around the weather. I am and feel the clouds, it is hard to explain. Even in a windowless room, before there is even a hint of pain, just from the sensation of the barometric pressure I can see the sky.

If I see the clouds I feel them, if I'm out of view and have no clue what the weather is I see them.

It's intense, and strange.

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