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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:36:49 PM   
ShaharThorne


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Status: offline 		I know...I love going to speciality stores to get a rasher when I go to Austin or get a thick cut when they go on sale. Mom buys a flavored bacon, center cut. The maple flavored one drives me bonkers, making me want pancakes.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:38:52 PM   
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Due to the number of people here in the house, I usually cook a pound of bacon at a time.

I use thick sliced bacon, and do not cook till crispy, never liked burnt bacon, and end up with just a couple of table spoons of fat in the pan.

Even less for a pound of sausage.

As for putting the stuff in brine, I only buy naturally smoked bacon.

Only a pound of bacon for a number of people jlf??
That would be a single-serving portion for us here.
That would only just make a couple of decent bacon butties.

As for your sausages, most of what I experienced in the US was loaded with far too much cereal and not as fatty as ours over here.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:45:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		1lb = 450-500gms. That's enough for four people in my house, and I'm in the UK.

Freedomdwarf you keep banging on about streaky bacon not being a good cut of meat. You need to change where you get it from. I use it for all sorts of stuff and it's great. as with everything; quality counts.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:50:07 PM   
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Why anyone would want to eat anything that comes from a pig is beyond me but



is it a religious healt or taste issue?


It's sort of neither yet all of them. I'm neither Jewish nor Muslim but I find the thought of eating pig meat revolting.

I believe they're filthy animals that live in their own mess and that can't be healthy.

As far as taste; I have to admit for yearning for a nicely done pork chop, every once-in-a-while but all I need is to think about that nasty, shit-living pig and I'm relieved of that desire.





Pigs are naturally forest animals so when raised without shade they need a way to keep cool so farmers kept them in muddy yards so they could roll in the mud to cool off. Give a hog room and you'll have a clean animal lying in the shade.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:50:24 PM   
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1lb = 450-500gms. That's enough for four people in my house, and I'm in the UK.

Freedomdwarf you keep banging on about streaky bacon not being a good cut of meat. You need to change where you get it from. I use it for all sorts of stuff and it's great. as with everything; quality counts.

needles

I'm not saying streaky is bad quality, I'm saying it's one of the cheaper and fattier cuts of bacon compared to many other cuts of bacon that we can choose from over here.
Alas, those poor Americans have to go to a speciality butcher/shop to get anything but streaky - they have very little choice.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 4:55:59 PM   
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Alas, those poor Americans have to go to a speciality butcher/shop to get anything but streaky - they have very little choice.



I was looking for salt pork to make a batch of white beans and it was almost impossible to find.


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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:00:05 PM   
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You're basing your comments based on the experience of shopping for food where you're at. In the US, small butcher shops with custom cuts have pretty much disappeared. We're stuck with what ever the grocery stores carry.


maybe I wrote it badly, he noticed a difference in the fat amount, I don't think they are keeping pigs on a diet so if the amount of fat changed it's becuase there is difference in the cut the grocery store he goes bought or if it's packed his favourite made it uses. I came to this conclusion because reading the difference between bacon and pancetta I read the former can be also from a higher cut closer to lion, that we normally use for BBQ or stewed.

naming lardo was a joke, I mean frying it in a pan is a criminal act.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:05:51 PM   
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After a long hiatus out of an attempt to live more healthy, bacon and sausage has returned to my diet, in moderation of course.

However, in the old days, I could fry up some bacon or sausage and have enough grease left in the frying pan to add flour to and make gravy...

Not anymore, fry a pound of Jimmy Dean for sausage gravy and there is barely any grease in the pain. We are being ripped off!!

Same with thick cut bacon, fry a pound and there is only enough grease to scramble two eggs.

What has happened to the fat?


Jlf.....in the 70's they told us sugar would kill us. Cyclamates were the answer.

In the 80's, Cyclamates were deemed dangerous.

In the 90's they showed that giving rats 10 billion doses of Cyclamates on a daily basis would kill just about anything.....and now they dare to tell us that bacon (BACON????) will kill us??????

I DARE a bacon terrorist to show up at my door!

Jlf....you eat bacon. Cover yourself in bacon. Drape yourself in bacon.

Bacon is right. Bacon is good.

There is NOTHING wrong with bacon (and....there is EVERYTHING RIGHT with bacon).

Bacon is joyous.

It is all that is right.

All who speak against bacon.....

(Heathens).

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:08:24 PM   
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Due to the number of people here in the house, I usually cook a pound of bacon at a time.

I use thick sliced bacon, and do not cook till crispy, never liked burnt bacon, and end up with just a couple of table spoons of fat in the pan.

Even less for a pound of sausage.

As for putting the stuff in brine, I only buy naturally smoked bacon.


Jlf....regardless of the number of people in your home....

The minimum number for bacon is....1 lb.

If friends show up....more bacon.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:09:33 PM   
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"More bacon".

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:10:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oside, I just found some salt pork in a regional store here in Texas. Probably pick some up on the 1st so I can have it for my beans.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:10:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: eulero83
I don't think they are keeping pigs on a diet so if the amount of fat changed it's becuase there is difference in the cut the grocery store he goes bought or if it's packed his favourite made it uses.


You're incorrect. Pork in the United States has become increasingly leaner due to the low fat craze here. To the point where pork chops have to be brined or marinated to keep from drying out.

http://www.porkandhealth.org/PorkPreparation/70/HowthePigsGotLean.aspx#.UmXCYvlOMlI

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:17:43 PM   
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eulero lives in italy where all sorts of bacon cuts are available from virtually all fat to virtually no fat.



not completely true, in my region I have a really hard time to find "guanciale" (the cheek cut) to cook carbonara o 'a matriciana, I can find only the packed one that's never good quality.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:17:54 PM   
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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 5:26:35 PM   
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I don't think they are keeping pigs on a diet so if the amount of fat changed it's becuase there is difference in the cut the grocery store he goes bought or if it's packed his favourite made it uses.


You're incorrect. Pork in the United States has become increasingly leaner due to the low fat craze here. To the point where pork chops have to be brined or marinated to keep from drying out.

http://www.porkandhealth.org/PorkPreparation/70/HowthePigsGotLean.aspx#.UmXCYvlOMlI


that makes sense, for pork farmers I mean, reducing consumption eating less pork would affect the market so they sell a lower quality (in taste) product as better quality as it should be healtier, that talking about pork's fattest cuts it's kind of a joke.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 7:58:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I realize this is going to be a dreadfully unpopular suggestion (and that's all it is, a suggestion) but Morning Star brand makes a very good "fake" bacon alternative. If you are trying to lose a few pounds or are just being more mindful about cholesterol, ect, it is a convincing substitute. It's at Walmart (shudder), Target, ect. I hope that helps!

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/21/2013 8:53:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually pork fat is one of the better fats. Certainly far better for everyone than the trans fats.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-15/national/38550716_1_heart-disease-saturated-fat-intake-lard

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/22/2013 1:33:45 AM   
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If there's ever a question (and frankly, the actual question is somewhat moot)....the answer is....

"More bacon".



Holy crud... everything makes sense now....


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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/22/2013 12:37:00 PM   
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I realize this is going to be a dreadfully unpopular suggestion (and that's all it is, a suggestion) but Morning Star brand makes a very good "fake" bacon alternative. If you are trying to lose a few pounds or are just being more mindful about cholesterol, ect, it is a convincing substitute. It's at Walmart (shudder), Target, ect. I hope that helps!


It's a soy product loaded with chemicals to make it taste like meat.

Then there's the great "Cholesterol Myth".


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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/22/2013 12:41:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Why anyone would want to eat anything that comes from a pig is beyond me but



is it a religious healt or taste issue?


It's sort of neither yet all of them. I'm neither Jewish nor Muslim but I find the thought of eating pig meat revolting.

I believe they're filthy animals that live in their own mess and that can't be healthy.

As far as taste; I have to admit for yearning for a nicely done pork chop, every once-in-a-while but all I need is to think about that nasty, shit-living pig and I'm relieved of that desire.






Pigs are raised n their own mess in big feeding operations. Pigs would just as soon be clean and not mucky.


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