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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/23/2013 4:38:15 PM   
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(damn yankees are hoarding the rain up north.)




You can have the next superstorm that's due here. I won't mind missing one, honest.

As far as raising pigs or cattle or even chickens, you need to have a slaughterhouse nearby or be able to kill and process your own.

My son is talking about learning to shoot. I told him that he's welcome to kill a deer only if he's learned to field dress it. Meat does not enter my house filled with entrails and covered in skill unless it's still alive!


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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/23/2013 5:08:56 PM   
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This is funny:

I won't eat bacon because it comes from a filthy pig that lives in its own feces and cannot be healthy...

That is comedic gold right there.

Eat chicken? Clean, right?

You could not be further from the truth... they are raised in extremely filthy environments, the birds are horribly treated, because of genetic engineering they grow so quickly that their bodies cannot support them and most end up lame... mass produced chicken is a nightmare. NIGHTMARE. We won't even begin to discuss what they are fed.

Ever been on a cattle ranch? A dairy farm? A veal ranch? I have. I will never, ever eat veal again for as long as I live. Dairy farms are filthy. Cattle raised in filth, pumped full of drugs, hormones and they are fed things you wouldn't feed a dead dog.

Commercial farming was a result of the First and Second World War. Everyone thought it would go back the way it was. It didn't. And now these commercial farms play fast and loose with our safety and health... for money. You want nightmares? We have them. We support them every time we buy a $4 chicken.

Organic, free range foods cost more because you are seeing the full cost of the farming. Organic farmers are not government subsidized so the price is higher. What you will never see is with commercial farming is the hidden costs that no one talks about: The EPA cleanups from pesticide use and fertilizer use, the health impact on the consumers... the list goes on and on.

Personally, I couldn't care less where a pig lives... it could live in Satan's Asshole for all I care, the pig produces bacon, pork shoulder roasts and pork chops... and all off them.... YUMMY. YUMMY I SAY!

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/23/2013 5:11:47 PM   
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No italian will ever have breakfast with becon for example.

Try telling that to the hundreds of other Italian truckers that I met when I travelled through Italy for 10 years.
Bacon butty and something like an English breakfast were quite common and available all over the country in almost every eatery I stopped at.

I never tried MacD's over there but surely they must have the same menu for a bacon burger or bacon & egg breakfast roll? It looked the same as the English, French, German, Spanish and other MacD's I've been into, including the ones in the US.

I think you must live in a very restrictive part of Italy or don't venture too far from home.



And it's 30 years I live in Italy I traveled all around and I'm fucking Italian! By the way Mac Donalds is not rapresentative of italian customs
Sorry but in no Autogrill there is eggs and bacon for braskfast, and cafés have no kitchen, you probably where in a hotel that serves international breakfast (there are many but for turists) or in some kind of road resturant that cooked what you asked.

just because you want to always know better this is the experience of an american girl in florence, this is a traveling article, and here is a third source.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/23/2013 6:32:56 PM   
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I've been to Rome twice and both times the only breakfast I ever saw was an espresso and a pastry. I did see eggs and bacon (was probably pancetta) once in a frittata served for dinner.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/24/2013 3:22:48 AM   
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I've been to Rome twice and both times the only breakfast I ever saw was an espresso and a pastry. I did see eggs and bacon (was probably pancetta) once in a frittata served for dinner.


I really don't know where driving a truck he could find a place cooking eggs and bacon in the morning that's not a McD's the autogrill franchisor that has a contract with the state for the highways in the morning has only the bar open the resturant starts around noon (and eggs with becon is not on the menù even there), they are all the same and you can find pastries and sandwitches that can be heaten but they don't cook.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/24/2013 3:58:51 AM   
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I've been to Rome twice and both times the only breakfast I ever saw was an espresso and a pastry. I did see eggs and bacon (was probably pancetta) once in a frittata served for dinner.


I really don't know where driving a truck he could find a place cooking eggs and bacon in the morning that's not a McD's the autogrill franchisor that has a contract with the state for the highways in the morning has only the bar open the resturant starts around noon (and eggs with becon is not on the menù even there), they are all the same and you can find pastries and sandwitches that can be heaten but they don't cook.

As a trucker, you can't get anywhere near a hotel unless it happens to be on the side of the road with lots of parking.
The same with most of the MacD's as they are in town where there are weight and height restrictions.

Everywhere where I stopped was either an Autogrill (and most are open 24/7) or a roadside eatery or a cafe on an industrial estate. There were even quite a few places where I was either delivering to or collecting from where I was able to eat in the staff canteen.

Some places that I can remember where I used to eat regularly -
A cafe just outside Aosta after running through all the tunnels from Mt Blanc.
A roadside cafe on the main road just before Turin (from Milan).
Autogrill at Novara.
Cafe at an industrial estate just outside Como.
Autogrill at Brescia.
Cafe on an industrial site on the west side of Firenza.
There was a small eatery just outside Bologna but it closed down :(

I didn't find any around Rome that I could stop at and admittedly not so many in the southern regions.

I nearly always used to have a full English breakfast just to see what variations I got compared to what you would get in the UK. Some of them were hilarious. But I always got eggs, bacon, sausage, tomatoes and mushrooms and various other additions with a cup of tea.

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RE: Someone needs to pay, maybe. - 10/24/2013 4:19:28 AM   
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all autogrill are open 24/7, but what time in the day did you get eggs bacon sausage and tomatoes at? Because for us that's lunch or dinner stuff at noon you can easly find those things.

and was there english breakfast on the menù or did you had to ask for them?

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