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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
We have lots of identity documents. The Republicans are picking and choosing which ones will be allowed to be shown at a polling place to allow one to vote. And they're doing the picking based on which ones Democratic groups are least likely to have, for instance in all these states college ID's (even ones issued by state run universities) do not count but firearms permits do.

I'm of two minds over this. While I'll admit that at first glace saying a firearms ID is acceptable, but student ID isn't, appears discriminatory, they're not really even close to the same thing. I don't know what procedures a school uses to confirm that you're who you say you are, I suspect that at most they ask to see your drivers license. (Which if you have makes this a moot point.) I do know that when you apply for a firearms ID card/carry permit, you have to PROVE that you're who you say you are. IIRC, NJ and PA both require you to submit finger prints. So I have no problem with any form of ID, as long as the process of getting it is thorough at confirming your identity is as a state driver's license.

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Why do you keep making up ridiculous lies like this, and the one about passing a test before voting?
Putting them in the form of a question doesn't make them true.

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

This is just a curiosity of mine, but how does it work vote there, you hale like to resgister before? how someone knows what polling station he has to go? What does people at the polling station ask you to know who in the list voted I mean if there are two john smith they also ask date of birth?

You register to vote before hand in most states. The registration includes your mailing address so that distinguishes you from anyone else with your same name. Different states have different requirements for identification at the polls. Here in Chicago I just present myself, sign the book and sometimes present my voter ID card.

so there is no pubblic record of addresses I guess, you trust a lot, with your system here there would be probably a 120% vote affluence, we have an ID card issued at 15 years by the mayor of your city and a voter ID that you recieve at home when you turn 18, you get a stamp for every time you go to vote, when there is no more room you ask a new one at the city hall, I don't know if you get some gadget for finishing the collection... I don't know like a home movie of a party at silvio berlusconi's mansion.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Why do you keep making up ridiculous lies like this, and the one about passing a test before voting?
Putting them in the form of a question doesn't make them true.

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

This is just a curiosity of mine, but how does it work vote there, you hale like to resgister before? how someone knows what polling station he has to go? What does people at the polling station ask you to know who in the list voted I mean if there are two john smith they also ask date of birth?

You register to vote before hand in most states. The registration includes your mailing address so that distinguishes you from anyone else with your same name. Different states have different requirements for identification at the polls. Here in Chicago I just present myself, sign the book and sometimes present my voter ID card.

so there is no pubblic record of addresses I guess, you trust a lot, with your system here there would be probably a 120% vote affluence, we have an ID card issued at 15 years by the mayor of your city and a voter ID that you recieve at home when you turn 18, you get a stamp for every time you go to vote, when there is no more room you ask a new one at the city hall, I don't know if you get some gadget for finishing the collection... I don't know like a home movie of a party at silvio berlusconi's mansion.

Stop making silly assumptions, Eurlero is in italy, he IS asking questions.....

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two
I'm of two minds over this. While I'll admit that at first glace saying a firearms ID is acceptable, but student ID isn't, appears discriminatory, they're not really even close to the same thing. I don't know what procedures a school uses to confirm that you're who you say you are, I suspect that at most they ask to see your drivers license. (Which if you have makes this a moot point.) I do know that when you apply for a firearms ID card/carry permit, you have to PROVE that you're who you say you are. IIRC, NJ and PA both require you to submit finger prints. So I have no problem with any form of ID, as long as the process of getting it is thorough at confirming your identity is as a state driver's license.

This means that if you are not able to drive you can't vote? I mean you litteraly have to pass an exam to vote, isn't against your costitution? Silly question but what kind of document do you have to show when taking the driving licence?

No, eulero, there is a State-issued ID card. It is the State ID for people who do not drive. You are not allowed to hold both a Driver's License and a State ID card, at least not in Ohio. The identity requirements for a State ID are the same as they for a Driver's License.

To get a Driver's License, you have to show your birth certificate, social security card (if you have one), proof of legal presence (if you're not an American Citizen), and proof of State residence.

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Questions that have already been answered... the 'Me so dumb, me in Europe' game isn't going to cut it.

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Questions that have already been answered... the 'Me so dumb, me in Europe' game isn't going to cut it.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Why do you keep making up ridiculous lies like this, and the one about passing a test before voting?
Putting them in the form of a question doesn't make them true.

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

This is just a curiosity of mine, but how does it work vote there, you hale like to resgister before? how someone knows what polling station he has to go? What does people at the polling station ask you to know who in the list voted I mean if there are two john smith they also ask date of birth?

You register to vote before hand in most states. The registration includes your mailing address so that distinguishes you from anyone else with your same name. Different states have different requirements for identification at the polls. Here in Chicago I just present myself, sign the book and sometimes present my voter ID card.

so there is no pubblic record of addresses I guess, you trust a lot, with your system here there would be probably a 120% vote affluence, we have an ID card issued at 15 years by the mayor of your city and a voter ID that you recieve at home when you turn 18, you get a stamp for every time you go to vote, when there is no more room you ask a new one at the city hall, I don't know if you get some gadget for finishing the collection... I don't know like a home movie of a party at silvio berlusconi's mansion.

Stop making silly assumptions, Eurlero is in italy, he IS asking questions.....

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
That's right, there isn't enough fraud to even worry about. Best to wait until someone on the left loses, then we can spend months recounting every slip.

You know that, in the election that I'm guessing sprang into your mind when you were prompted to say this, that if EVERY slip had been recounted in Florida, there would have been no Shrub...

Doncha?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
We have lots of identity documents. The Republicans are picking and choosing which ones will be allowed to be shown at a polling place to allow one to vote. And they're doing the picking based on which ones Democratic groups are least likely to have, for instance in all these states college ID's (even ones issued by state run universities) do not count but firearms permits do.

I'm of two minds over this. While I'll admit that at first glace saying a firearms ID is acceptable, but student ID isn't, appears discriminatory, they're not really even close to the same thing. I don't know what procedures a school uses to confirm that you're who you say you are, I suspect that at most they ask to see your drivers license. (Which if you have makes this a moot point.) I do know that when you apply for a firearms ID card/carry permit, you have to PROVE that you're who you say you are. IIRC, NJ and PA both require you to submit finger prints. So I have no problem with any form of ID, as long as the process of getting it is thorough at confirming your identity is as a state driver's license.

You do realize the state could make the state owned institutions conform to whatever standard they wanted right? And they don't. Isn't that crystal clear enough for you?

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two
I'm of two minds over this. While I'll admit that at first glace saying a firearms ID is acceptable, but student ID isn't, appears discriminatory, they're not really even close to the same thing. I don't know what procedures a school uses to confirm that you're who you say you are, I suspect that at most they ask to see your drivers license. (Which if you have makes this a moot point.) I do know that when you apply for a firearms ID card/carry permit, you have to PROVE that you're who you say you are. IIRC, NJ and PA both require you to submit finger prints. So I have no problem with any form of ID, as long as the process of getting it is thorough at confirming your identity is as a state driver's license.

This means that if you are not able to drive you can't vote? I mean you litteraly have to pass an exam to vote, isn't against your costitution? Silly question but what kind of document do you have to show when taking the driving licence?

No, eulero, there is a State-issued ID card. It is the State ID for people who do not drive. You are not allowed to hold both a Driver's License and a State ID card, at least not in Ohio. The identity requirements for a State ID are the same as they for a Driver's License.
To get a Driver's License, you have to show your birth certificate, social security card (if you have one), proof of legal presence (if you're not an American Citizen), and proof of State residence.

ok so it's the birth certificate the main proof before having a picture ID

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

youve never been housebound or bedridden and single have you

"Bedridden"oh my yes
although "house bound" conjurs up some interesting concepts.

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ORIGINAL: tammystarm

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
We have lots of identity documents. The Republicans are picking and choosing which ones will be allowed to be shown at a polling place to allow one to vote. And they're doing the picking based on which ones Democratic groups are least likely to have, for instance in all these states college ID's (even ones issued by state run universities) do not count but firearms permits do.

I'm of two minds over this. While I'll admit that at first glace saying a firearms ID is acceptable, but student ID isn't, appears discriminatory, they're not really even close to the same thing. I don't know what procedures a school uses to confirm that you're who you say you are, I suspect that at most they ask to see your drivers license. (Which if you have makes this a moot point.) I do know that when you apply for a firearms ID card/carry permit, you have to PROVE that you're who you say you are. IIRC, NJ and PA both require you to submit finger prints. So I have no problem with any form of ID, as long as the process of getting it is thorough at confirming your identity is as a state driver's license.

You do realize the state could make the state owned institutions conform to whatever standard they wanted right? And they don't. Isn't that crystal clear enough for you?

Which means they should just to lend credence to your opinion the GOP is waging a war against, what is it this time, oh yes, the voter who cannot get out of their house to obtain a valid ID, or something.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-23-2013/suppressing-the-vote

I missed this last night.

Turns out he resigned from his party positions as soon as people actually saw this interview.

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4:18 to 4:27 of the video linked to above...

"I can't believe we've got that many stupid people in North Carolina and people that don't know how to follow directions to go down there and get a photo ID for free at the DMV. Do you want those people picking your president?"

That he was forced by his party to resign as soon as people in North Carolina saw that interview just goes to prove there are indeed many stupid people in North Carolina.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-23-2013/suppressing-the-vote

I missed this last night.

Turns out he resigned from his party positions as soon as people actually saw this interview.

4:18 to 4:27 of the video linked to above...

"I can't believe we've got that many stupid people in North Carolina and people that don't know how to follow directions to go down there and get a photo ID for free at the DMV. Do you want those people picking your president?"

That he was forced by his party to resign as soon as people in North Carolina saw that interview just goes to prove there are indeed many stupid people in North Carolina.