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NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 2:24:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml
I'd say you were borderline creepy

Only borderline??? I think with that, AND his subsequent posts, he's definitely showed himself to be over the line creepy in my opinion.

OP, to answer your question: You appear, to me anyway, to be creepy and obsessed with sex.

If I see an attractive - to me - guy in tight levis, maybe even with the outline of his package showing and, er, well..... The first thing I notice anyway is his face and his smile. Then I notice his nice ass in jeans and the rest of it too. But, no, I don't want to jump his bones right there and gobble in.

Depending on the situation, I might just want a friendly smile and acknowledgement that I was checking him out. I might want to get to know him first and see if I even like him at all beyond his looks. If I don't really care about him on some level, I'm not going to fantasize sexually about him. If I do end up liking him a lot and we hit it off romantically, THEN I may fantasize about doing unspeakably naughty things to him.

NBMG



KnightofMists -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 3:35:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

My question is hard to pose in words but what has always amazed me is that the moment I see any woman's breasts, I just want to hold them in my hands, fondle them, and suckle on them - yet - I doubt many women feel the same way about cocks.

I can't speak for "all men", but, as "on man", the moment I see a short skirt, I want to lift it up, and to give the woman the pleasure of a good licking. I wonder if women feel the same say about a man, say, in shorts (or a kilt?). Somehow I doubt it - but that's what I'm asking.

For men or women (of any ilk), do you have the same (or similar) feelings of wanting to lick and suck (in my case) a woman's breasts and kitty? When I see a nice set of buns, I just want to stick my tongue and make her writhe in pleasure.

What confuses me is whether I'm just weird, or if a lot of others strongly desire to lick another's body where they show it.

This is getting complicated to explain, but, this desire doesn't happen as much if the woman, for example, is in rollers and a house dress running errands at the grocery store.

It happens, to me, when a woman is "dressed up", and, in particular, that usually means a skirt, lipstick, heels, etc. So, for example, to further explain my dilemma, say I went to meet a hypothetical female friend who, say, (for whatever reason) dressed up for the occasion by wearing a miniskirt and a low slung tight blouse and red pumps. Trust me when I tell you, even if she were my best platonic friend, I'd STILL want to hold those boobs in my hands and pleasure them with my mouth, and even if we were BFF, I would STILL think about lifting that skirt and licking her to pleasure her until she screamed, and doing the same to her behind were she to enjoy that.

Of course, if I thought this hypothetical best female friend didn't want it, I would NEVER do it. ... but ... my dilemma is that there is absolutely no way I could stop myself from THINKING about pleasuring her, just by the sight, sound (of her voice and clicking heels, for example), and smell (various scents) of her.

Sorry for the long winded question, but, to try to summarize, do women (and other men) also feel like ripping the clothes off someone dressed sexily in order to pleasure them with their lingual abilities?


I read all this and one thing comes to mind. How is it working for you? Are allow the thoughts and desires to control your actions? Or are you controlling your actions despite the thoughts?

If you not happy with it and what is occurring... You just might need take steps of professional kinda to help gain control of he fetish. If you happy with it and it's not having a negative impact on your life and relationships.....well roll with.



tallandsweet16 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 5:12:56 PM)

original poster---
i don't at all find you creepy. you know what turns you on, it might be a bit intense, but so long as you're not running around making women feel uncomfortable or stalking them, rock on with your dirty little thoughts. and yes, you may just be super hyper sensitive due to your length of time since sex.

all the best.



MercTech -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 5:40:46 PM)

It sounds like normal impulses. But, the issue is impulse control.

Now, a true sociopath really doesn't give a hoot except he doesn't want to get caught.
Civilization teaches us not to follow impulses unless we know they are welcome... i.e. consent.

If the impulses didn't exist, frotage and peepling would not be criminal issues.

Little Johnny, get that web cam off the toes of your shoes!



Nakhla -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 5:51:49 PM)


I have more than enough self control to have a decent, friendly, and occasionally meaningful first conversation with a man I find exceptionally attractive. None the less, it's mostly just a facade for the keyboard-mashing unintelligible screed of lusty thoughts going on inside. In fact, a big apology goes out to to all men I find sexy ( pretty much all Middle Eastern and most Latin and Indian menfolk ) for the fact that whatever you or I may of said on our first acquaintance, my thoughts were primarily an amphigory of penetrative potentialities.

With repeated exposure I can get used to a guy and feel normally towards him, though.

I've never met a woman with this particular issue, so in short: yeah, it's a guy thing.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 6:13:34 PM)

So glad to see you back! There is no one on here quite like you [:)]



ThePrincessKali -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 6:42:27 PM)

I think most men have thoughts like that when they see an attractive woman. I think the way you worded sounds a little creepy and like you may have been jacking off while writing the OP. So no, I don't think you're weird you just might want to keep those thoughts to yourself.



littlewonder -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 7:10:31 PM)

No I never have these thoughts. I might see a guy who is hot and I will say he's hot but after that I just keep on walking without another thought in my head. I can't say I've ever gone around thinking anything more than that. I think it's a guy thing really.

ETA: After reading your other posts here, you come across as extremely creepy and like a guy who has never has been laid. I suggest getting laid. If that doesn't clear up your issue then get thee to a counselor.



DesFIP -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 8:29:29 PM)

I suggest getting to a counselor so he can get laid.



sexyred1 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/27/2013 9:31:13 PM)

What I find disturbing about the OP is not that he stares or fantasizes, since most men do that, but that he tries to validate his strong feelings of wanting to reach out and touch strangers by saying he wants to please them.

OP, I guarantee you that 99% of all women like getting appreciative looks, but would not be pleased at all by your intensive focus on just their looks/attire.

Most of us only care for that obsessive attention from a man we are involved with, not a stranger in a bookstore.



sunshinemiss -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 5:43:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nakhla


I have more than enough self control to have a decent, friendly, and occasionally meaningful first conversation with a man I find exceptionally attractive. None the less, it's mostly just a facade for the keyboard-mashing unintelligible screed of lusty thoughts going on inside. In fact, a big apology goes out to to all men I find sexy ( pretty much all Middle Eastern and most Latin and Indian menfolk ) for the fact that whatever you or I may of said on our first acquaintance, my thoughts were primarily an amphigory of penetrative potentialities.

With repeated exposure I can get used to a guy and feel normally towards him, though.

I've never met a woman with this particular issue, so in short: yeah, it's a guy thing.



I met a gal once who somehow just ZINGED me. I don't know what the heck happened, but I couldn't put a noun and a verb together to make a sentence. She smelled like heaven on earth! Same thing happened at a gay bar. The guy was this big, beefy Native American who looked like a tree, and i was the monkey that was gonna climb him. Tonight at dinner, some Korean man came in with his long, wavy hair and confident self and said hello to me. He sat down with friends at the next table, and when their order of veggies and such came, I lost all concentration and could only watch his hands as he put veggies on his rice wrap and put together the ugliest spring roll I've ever seen... Nevertheless, I could barely continue the conversation *I* was in..

Good to see you back, Nakhla!!

ETA: kudos for "screed"



sunshinemiss -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 5:47:40 AM)

Sunny
Quote of the Day
goes to
Nakhla
for
whatever you or I may
of said on our first acquaintance,
my thoughts were primarily an
amphigory of penetrative potentialities.

[sm=sex.gif]


http://www.collarchat.com/m_4574246/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#4574958



Rochsub2009 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 6:33:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I suggest getting to a counselor so he can get laid.


Unfortunately, based on what he's written so far, I am beginning to doubt that he has the "swag" or social skills needed to get laid. [8D]



orgasmdenial12 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 6:40:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
I guarantee you that 99% of all women like getting appreciative looks


I guess I must be the 1% then; I hate that second look that guys give when you've pinged their lady rader. When I'm out and about in public life, I'm just a person going about my day, I don't need to want to know that you saw me and thought of your cock, and any action or behaviour towards that impulse will ick me.

Now, when I'm in a killer dress at a club - then sure, it's nice to feel the heads turn because I'm in sex mode, and I want the recognition.

But if I never get noticed in public for the rest of my life, if will be too soon.

I actually think this belief that women wanted to be appreciated for their appearance by random people in public contributes to the OP's attitude - he thinks of them as things to be looked at first, as people second.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 7:14:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
I guarantee you that 99% of all women like getting appreciative looks


I guess I must be the 1% then; I hate that second look that guys give when you've pinged their lady rader. When I'm out and about in public life, I'm just a person going about my day, I don't need to want to know that you saw me and thought of your cock, and any action or behaviour towards that impulse will ick me.

Now, when I'm in a killer dress at a club - then sure, it's nice to feel the heads turn because I'm in sex mode, and I want the recognition.

But if I never get noticed in public for the rest of my life, if will be too soon.

I actually think this belief that women wanted to be appreciated for their appearance by random people in public contributes to the OP's attitude - he thinks of them as things to be looked at first, as people second.

There is a HUGE difference between an appreciative look and someone leering or staring.

Leering at a girl is positively creepy and usually unwanted.



theshytype -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 7:56:57 AM)

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There is a HUGE difference between an appreciative look and someone leering or staring.

Leering at a girl is positively creepy and usually unwanted.


Agreed. One look, a double look, or a short stare is enough to feed my ego.
But a long stare turns a compliment into something creepy and uncomfortable. Makes me feel as though I have to put more clothes on over my winter coat. I can almost feel them undressing me with their eyes, it does have a rapey feel to it, and I have left a place very quickly on a few occasions because of this.



SeekingTrinity -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 8:18:19 AM)

I too agree with you.

As a woman, there is a night and day difference between an appreciative glance from a man and this obsessive leering that the OP admits to doing. The former is flattering, while the latter is frightening and would make my skin crawl. The fact that he is sitting there across from some woman up skirting her or staring at her chest in the hopes of seeing her breasts is bad enough. But the obsession with what ultimately could prove to be unwanted physical attention from him by her put this over the line from harmless to scary.

OP, I can only hope that your impulse control is very strong.



lizi -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 8:35:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

What I find disturbing about the OP is not that he stares or fantasizes, since most men do that, but that he tries to validate his strong feelings of wanting to reach out and touch strangers by saying he wants to please them.

OP, I guarantee you that 99% of all women like getting appreciative looks, but would not be pleased at all by your intensive focus on just their looks/attire.

Most of us only care for that obsessive attention from a man we are involved with, not a stranger in a bookstore.


That's what ultimately bugged me the most too. It's like he can't separate himself from the object of his lust by remembering that these random women are entirely different human beings, and they may not want his attention or even like the things he wishes to do to "please" them.

The things he's thinking about please him, therefore he seems to think it must please them to receive these sexual acts from him. It's like he doesn't get right from the start that not every woman is into the same things sexually, or would even find him desirable as a partner. He somehow skips over all of that. I mean I get that it's his fantasy, and we're all awesome sex partners in our own fantasies and the world is lusting after us, but in relating how he thinks, he's objectifying these women to the point where he seriously doesn't seem to get that they're not simply extensions of himself.

For example, it's been pointed out on these boards fairly often that there is a significant portion of the female race that doesn't want, or like, to receive oral sex. He's thinking that what he wants to do will automatically transform into what she wants, and will get him his desired reaction of having the woman show how much pleasure she is receiving. This lack of separation is the part where he gets seriously creepy for me. That fundamental lack of separation he seems to be describing is red flag territory.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 8:40:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
I guarantee you that 99% of all women like getting appreciative looks


I guess I must be the 1% then; I hate that second look that guys give when you've pinged their lady rader. When I'm out and about in public life, I'm just a person going about my day, I don't need to want to know that you saw me and thought of your cock, and any action or behaviour towards that impulse will ick me.

Now, when I'm in a killer dress at a club - then sure, it's nice to feel the heads turn because I'm in sex mode, and I want the recognition.

But if I never get noticed in public for the rest of my life, if will be too soon.

I actually think this belief that women wanted to be appreciated for their appearance by random people in public contributes to the OP's attitude - he thinks of them as things to be looked at first, as people second.

I'm in the 1% right there with you. If I never get noticed in public for the rest of my life by random men, I would be overjoyed. All I have ever wanted was to be noticed by the one I want to notice me, and blissfully invisible to all the rest.



Blonderfluff -> RE: How do men and women treat the same situation (diferently)? (10/28/2013 10:01:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Ok, your second post has taken you across the border into creepy town!



2nd post? I was pretty creeped out by the 1st. And the fact that he is getting off on these long , detailed descriptions....just....eww



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