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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy
"President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years."
Of course they knew! And the President and his minions looked the American people in the eyes and outright lied to them.
Obama administration knew millions could not keep their health insurance

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
FR
Or maybe not
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/28/2850061/wrong-story-obama-knowing-health-care-policy-cancelled/

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The cancellations are a result of so-called grandfather rules promulgated by President Obama’s Health and Human Services. The rule exempts health insurance plans in existence before March 23, 2010 — the day the Affordable Care Act became law — from many of the new regulations, benefits standards and consumer protections that new plans now have to abide by, but says that policies could lose their designation if they make major changes.
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So yes, individuals can keep the plans they have if those plans remain largely the same.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

That, Ken, is what we call a lie.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Name one politician in the history of mankind who did not lie. Lieing is why they became politicians.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
So, the whole idea that you could keep your plan if you like it was not true, except for the first year (while it was grandfathered). The Administration knew this stuff, but continued to peddle the line.

That, Ken, is what we call a lie.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
So, the whole idea that you could keep your plan if you like it was not true, except for the first year (while it was grandfathered). The Administration knew this stuff, but continued to peddle the line.
That, Ken, is what we call a lie.

No. If you had a plan and it did not change at all you can keep it indefinitely. However the insurance companies never leave a plan alone so eventually they change it enough that the grandfathering no longer applies. However that is entirely up to the insurance companies. If they wanted you to be able to keep your plan they could leave it alone, they are aware of the law after all. Blaming this on the President is bullshit.
And keep in mind the changes that remove the grandfathered status are all changes that negatively affect the policy holder.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
It will take about three years or more to see whether or not the Law has expanded coverage and cut costs. The affordable care act is modeled after Mitt Romney's plan instituted in Massachusetts.

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BOSTON -- Health care spending in Massachusetts is growing at a slower rate than in the country overall – but Massachusetts residents are still spending more than the national average on their health care, according to new information released by the Massachusetts Health Policy Commission.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

FR
Or maybe not
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/28/2850061/wrong-story-obama-knowing-health-care-policy-cancelled/

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
So, the whole idea that you could keep your plan if you like it was not true, except for the first year (while it was grandfathered). The Administration knew this stuff, but continued to peddle the line.

That, Ken, is what we call a lie.

No. If you had a plan and it did not change at all you can keep it indefinitely. However the insurance companies never leave a plan alone so eventually they change it enough that the grandfathering no longer applies. However that is entirely up to the insurance companies. If they wanted you to be able to keep your plan they could leave it alone, they are aware of the law after all. Blaming this on the President is bullshit.

And keep in mind the changes that remove the grandfathered status are all changes that negatively affect the policy holder.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
Higher costs to Mass residents seems unrelated to Romneycare. From your link:
Additionally, Walsh said the state must determine how to strengthen the quality of patient care, assess the impact of market consolidation on the industry and keep community hospitals strong. According to the Center for Health Information and Analysis, Blue Cross Blue Shield controls 45 percent of the commercial insurance market. At the same time, 45 percent of all commercial payments go to doctors working for just three physician groups. Boros said the market concentration “seems to be associated with higher price and higher overall expenditures.”

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
It will take about three years or more to see whether or not the Law has expanded coverage and cut costs. The affordable care act is modeled after Mitt Romney's plan instituted in Massachusetts.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
So, the whole idea that you could keep your plan if you like it was not true, except for the first year (while it was grandfathered). The Administration knew this stuff, but continued to peddle the line.
That, Ken, is what we call a lie.

No. If you had a plan and it did not change at all you can keep it indefinitely. However the insurance companies never leave a plan alone so eventually they change it enough that the grandfathering no longer applies. However that is entirely up to the insurance companies. If they wanted you to be able to keep your plan they could leave it alone, they are aware of the law after all. Blaming this on the President is bullshit.
And keep in mind the changes that remove the grandfathered status are all changes that negatively affect the policy holder.

OH, YEAH!!!

Yes, you can keep your plan if you want*.