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truckinslave -> Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 7:34:03 AM)
The worst part of this story, perhaps, is that the girl is now subject to the death penalty... For the Islapologists... There is an evil, and an evil enormity, to Islam unmatched by anything in scope and rivaled in intensity by nothing modern save, perhaps, Pol Pot and Nazi Germany.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 8:07:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave The worst part of this story, perhaps, is that the girl is now subject to the death penalty... For the Islapologists... There is an evil, and an evil enormity, to Islam unmatched by anything in scope and rivaled in intensity by nothing modern save, perhaps, Pol Pot and Nazi Germany. I heard that Dante was just awarded the contract for creating a 10th level of Hell...

tommonymous -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 8:24:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave The worst part of this story, perhaps, is that the girl is now subject to the death penalty... I don't have any love for Pakistan, but could you point me to a source for this assertion? I don't see it mentioned in the article at all, and I imagine that her being a candidate for the death penalty that would certainly be included.

thompsonx -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 8:25:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave The worst part of this story, perhaps, is that the girl is now subject to the death penalty... For the Islapologists... There is an evil, and an evil enormity, to Islam unmatched by anything in scope and rivaled in intensity by nothing modern save, perhaps, Pol Pot and Nazi Germany. Or christians[8\|]

Lucylastic -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 8:38:05 AM)
Now where does it mention that she is now" maybe" subject to the death penalty???? oh thats right....it doesnt Its surprising you bring up the religion and the harshness of the crime committed against her, but considering such stuff doesnt happen in america/UK/christian/atheist countries.. Oh yeah hang on it does. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478494/Ohio-use-untried-lethal-injection-to-death-murderer-rapist-Ronald-Phillips.html http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/27/parents-of-tenn-couple-horrifically-raped-tortured-and-murdered-share-their-story-of-unthinkable-agony-and-injustice-with-glenn-beck/ http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20130113/child-killer-up-for-parole-in-march-tim-papp-raped-murdered-9-year-old-roxie-ann-keathley-in-73 When is it going to become clear that there is little responsibility of men towards NOT to rape women Look at Steubenville look at any of these cases https://www.google.ca/search?q=marissa+&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:%7Breferrer:source%3F%7D&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ACGW_enCA460&gws_rd=cr&ei=H9VvUsqzEcP62QXC9oG4Bw#q=rape+of+teen&rls=com.microsoft:en-US%3A%7Breferrer%3Asource%3F%7D&safe=off&tbm=nws spare me your race/islam baiting ....its got little to do with islam, or sikhism, or christianity, or atheism, and everything to do with fucking dickhead men who see women as meat and cannot control themselves.

SweetAnise -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 8:43:01 AM)
I saw nothing in the article that said she would be subject to the death penalty.

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:42:42 AM)
It is, I thought, common knowledge that sharia punishes the victims of rape; said punishments can include public whippings, longterm imprisonment, and death by lovely means including stoning. There are of course innumerable references on the web, but this one, from the International Quranic Center, is chockablock with goodies from the wonders of sharia, including a personal favorite: "Proof of adultery or rape liable to Hadd shall be one of the following: (a) The accused makes confession, or (b) There are at least four Muslim adult male witnesses.” Rapists actually are harshly (of course; calling sharia harsh is akin to calling water damp) punishable under sharia; said punishments are made moot, however, by the above. The concomitant evil is that, unable to prove rape, the victim is now guilty of either fornication or adultery... both of which are harshly (lol) punished under sharia...

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:46:13 AM)
Moral equivalence is for the amoral. Spare me your pitiful attempts at it. Our laws, and their enforcement, are imperfect. Sharia is evil. See the difference? No, I know you don't.

Lucylastic -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:48:19 AM)
so apart from your expectations, you have nothing thankyou and goodnight

hlen5 -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:52:48 AM)
There are just and fair Muslims. I think her treatment, however would be a roll of the dice. It would depend on this happening in a backwater, or if the rapists are related to the local authorities.

SweetAnise -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:54:46 AM)
However Muslim women are not killed for rape itself. Perhaps some women are killed who's families believe in Honor Killing, but for the rape itself the only person to be killed is the rapist. Rape is a capital punishment and must be proven. And I quote, "There is no Islamic precedence for punishing the victim of sexual assault, even if the assault is not proven. The only exception is if a woman is found to have deliberately and falsely accused an innocent person. In such a case, she may be prosecuted for slander. Sadly, there have been cases where women have attempted to initiate a rape complaint, but ended up being prosecuted and punished for adultery. (Huda)" Here is a wonderful article called "Competing approaches to rape in Islamic law." Your article and link said she was arrested but did not say for what. Nor did it say she would receive the death penalty.

Lucylastic -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 10:56:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave Moral equivalence is for the amoral. Spare me your pitiful attempts at it. Our laws, and their enforcement, are imperfect. Sharia is evil. See the difference? No, I know you don't. you have not got a clue about how I feel about sharia. moral equivalence ??? LMFAO stupid fucking men who think rape is fun are the issue....world wide.

Yachtie -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 11:11:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic fucking dickhead men who see women as meat and cannot control themselves. Love your avatar [;)]

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 11:39:38 AM)
quote: There are just and fair Muslims. Let's discuss that. There may be, I suppose, Muslims who are fair and just in their day-to-day lives. I wouldn't know. I do not voluntarily associate with Muslims and do not know of any on, say, my job. There may be members of the KKK who are fair and just in their day-to-day lives. I wouldn't know. I do not voluntarily associate with KKKs and do not know of any on, say, my job. But that begs the question... can a KKK be more than superficially "fair and just" when they subscribe to such a monstrous evil as the KKK? Can a Muslim be more than superficially "just and fair" when their religion requires adherence to such a monstrous evil as sharia?

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 11:43:06 AM)
quote: Sadly, there have been cases where women have attempted to initiate a rape complaint, but ended up being prosecuted and punished for adultery That is the Islamapologist inanity used to justify the abuses I discussed in post #7, abuses given treatment both specific and broad in the link furnished in the same post.

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 11:45:30 AM)
They are indeed an issue... and an evil. So is sharia, and quite independently of Steubenville, or hunger in Bangladesh, or any other outrage.

thishereboi -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 11:49:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Now where does it mention that she is now" maybe" subject to the death penalty???? oh thats right....it doesnt Its surprising you bring up the religion and the harshness of the crime committed against her, but considering such stuff doesnt happen in america/UK/christian/atheist countries.. Oh yeah hang on it does. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478494/Ohio-use-untried-lethal-injection-to-death-murderer-rapist-Ronald-Phillips.html http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/27/parents-of-tenn-couple-horrifically-raped-tortured-and-murdered-share-their-story-of-unthinkable-agony-and-injustice-with-glenn-beck/ http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20130113/child-killer-up-for-parole-in-march-tim-papp-raped-murdered-9-year-old-roxie-ann-keathley-in-73 When is it going to become clear that there is little responsibility of men towards NOT to rape women Look at Steubenville look at any of these cases https://www.google.ca/search?q=marissa+&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:%7Breferrer:source%3F%7D&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ACGW_enCA460&gws_rd=cr&ei=H9VvUsqzEcP62QXC9oG4Bw#q=rape+of+teen&rls=com.microsoft:en-US%3A%7Breferrer%3Asource%3F%7D&safe=off&tbm=nws spare me your race/islam baiting ....its got little to do with islam, or sikhism, or christianity, or atheism, and everything to do with fucking dickhead men who see women as meat and cannot control themselves. quoted because there really isn't anything else to add but it's worth reading twice.

Lucylastic -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 12:05:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic fucking dickhead men who see women as meat and cannot control themselves. Love your avatar [;)] Lol, yeah but you missed the controlling THEMSELVES part. HUGE DIFFERENCE Makes all the difference in the world. The difference between rape and ogling, fantasizing or appreciation, is what separates the men from the scum, and the problem. The thought that one can violate at will, to justify the fear or anger, that makes it ok, Is the issue. This is not a religious issue.

Moonhead -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 1:06:00 PM)
You'll be saying that Pakistan worked better when it was still part of India and the British Empire next.

truckinslave -> RE: Another outrage from the R of P (10/29/2013 1:06:10 PM)
quote: This is not a religious issue. It's only a religious issue for Islam and some weird Asian group that believes in "marriage by capture". Islam, effectively, through it's required legal system, makes rape legal and then punishes the victim. How in the name of God is rape not a religious issue in countries that practice sharia?

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