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Want my prediction? I think the D's are going to be in power for a bit longer as the conservative voters get split out, but I do think the GOP is either going to ride into the sunset, or change to be a different GOP. I don't see the Tea Party voting bloc leaving politics.

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I said we tried it and we did. We watched good men get destroyed by the GOP dirty tricks machine. We're not going to keep letting the cons destroy this nation so we're going to fight just as dirty.
And yes it was done during W's administration. Kerry tried to run a high ground campaign and got the swift boat vileness for his troubles. And we are unlikely to ever forget how Max Cleland was treated. As a matter of fact Obama has run 2 high road campaigns. no dirty tricks and no negative attacks.

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As a matter of fact most on the left vehemently disagree with the President on many things and no one calls us racists.

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Want my prediction? I think the D's are going to be in power for a bit longer as the conservative voters get split out, but I do think the GOP is either going to ride into the sunset, or change to be a different GOP. I don't see the Tea Party voting bloc leaving politics.

Demographics says otherwise. It is shrinking and shrinking fast. It may be relevant in 2016 but after that?

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I said we tried it and we did. We watched good men get destroyed by the GOP dirty tricks machine. We're not going to keep letting the cons destroy this nation so we're going to fight just as dirty.
And yes it was done during W's administration. Kerry tried to run a high ground campaign and got the swift boat vileness for his troubles. And we are unlikely to ever forget how Max Cleland was treated. As a matter of fact Obama has run 2 high road campaigns. no dirty tricks and no negative attacks.

OMG! I can't even begin to imagine how hard you had to laugh while you were typing that. I almost fell out of my chair just reading it!

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As to the claim that we call all opponents of Obama racists that is a simple lie. we call racists racists. If you make up some idiotic conspiracy theory involving hundreds of government officials to hide that the man was born in Kenya or some other stupid nonsense in order to declare him ineligible for the office then I'm going to call you a racist. If you start calling a program created by right wing think tanks a "socialist takeover of health care" then I'm going to wonder. but if you disagree with the President's policies in a rational manner then no one I know is going to call you a racist based on that.

Being born in Kenya could have made Obama ineligible for the Presidency (had his Mom not been a US Citizen). His Dad was Kenyan, which is why Kenya was the claimed birthplace. Had his father been from South Africa, the claim would have been Obama was born in South Africa. Them's just the facts. Obama wasn't opposed because his skin was black. He was opposed because people didn't have proof of where he was born, and ignored that it didn't matter (his Mom was a Citizen). Many of those that oppose Obama because "he was born in Kenya" (not that it is correct, nor that it matters) still supported black Conservatives.

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As a matter of fact most on the left vehemently disagree with the President on many things and no one calls us racists.

Perhaps it's because those of us on the right aren't racists, or using the "race card?" Nah, that can't be it. It should be noted that the race card is used against "rightists" who don't agree with Obama and not against leftist that don't agree with Obama.

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Anecdote: I have a friend on Facebook that changed his profile pics to show some historically relevant white guy while discussing the government shutdown. He was called a racist 3x more often than normal. He's a white guy. The pics he took down were those of his black wife and the mixed race kids they have together.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
I said we tried it and we did. We watched good men get destroyed by the GOP dirty tricks machine. We're not going to keep letting the cons destroy this nation so we're going to fight just as dirty.
And yes it was done during W's administration. Kerry tried to run a high ground campaign and got the swift boat vileness for his troubles. And we are unlikely to ever forget how Max Cleland was treated. As a matter of fact Obama has run 2 high road campaigns. no dirty tricks and no negative attacks.

OMG! I can't even begin to imagine how hard you had to laugh while you were typing that. I almost fell out of my chair just reading it!

You find the truth funny?

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As to the claim that we call all opponents of Obama racists that is a simple lie. we call racists racists. If you make up some idiotic conspiracy theory involving hundreds of government officials to hide that the man was born in Kenya or some other stupid nonsense in order to declare him ineligible for the office then I'm going to call you a racist. If you start calling a program created by right wing think tanks a "socialist takeover of health care" then I'm going to wonder. but if you disagree with the President's policies in a rational manner then no one I know is going to call you a racist based on that.

Being born in Kenya could have made Obama ineligible for the Presidency (had his Mom not been a US Citizen). His Dad was Kenyan, which is why Kenya was the claimed birthplace. Had his father been from South Africa, the claim would have been Obama was born in South Africa. Them's just the facts. Obama wasn't opposed because his skin was black. He was opposed because people didn't have proof of where he was born, and ignored that it didn't matter (his Mom was a Citizen). Many of those that oppose Obama because "he was born in Kenya" (not that it is correct, nor that it matters) still supported black Conservatives.

And the first thing out of the mouth of many racists just after they state something racist is how they have a black friend. Same thing.

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As a matter of fact most on the left vehemently disagree with the President on many things and no one calls us racists.

Perhaps it's because those of us on the right aren't racists, or using the "race card?" Nah, that can't be it. It should be noted that the race card is used against "rightists" who don't agree with Obama and not against leftist that don't agree with Obama.

No. People are called racists when they completely change their support for something because the President supports it and/or start making completely bizarre claims.

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Anecdote: I have a friend on Facebook that changed his profile pics to show some historically relevant white guy while discussing the government shutdown. He was called a racist 3x more often than normal. He's a white guy. The pics he took down were those of his black wife and the mixed race kids they have together.

Too bad for him but I don't know what he posted and do not know the people on FB who responded.

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So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they?

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So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they?

I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man.

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So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they?

I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man.

Huh.

If only there were other black conservatives out there!

<cough, cough> Herman Cain <cough, cough>

<cough, cough> Condi Rice <cough, cough>

<cough, cough> Thomas Sowell <cough, cough>

<cough, cough> Clarence Thomas <cough, cough>

<cough, cough> Alfonzo Rachel <cough, cough>

<cough, cough> Walter E Williams <cough, cough>

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FR. I'm still wondering why the Mods don't like the term "Teabagger" for TEA party member.

Is one of the Mods a member of said party?

Should we be held responsible for the ignorance of others?

(The TEA party was the ones who STARTED referring to themselves as 'teabaggers" why is it now verboten?)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

FR. I'm still wondering why the Mods don't like the term "Teabagger" for TEA party member.

Is one of the Mods a member of said party?

Should we be held responsible for the ignorance of others?

(The TEA party was the ones who STARTED referring to themselves as 'teabaggers" why is it now verboten?)

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FR. I'm still wondering why the Mods don't like the term "Teabagger" for TEA party member.

Is one of the Mods a member of said party?

Should we be held responsible for the ignorance of others?

(The TEA party was the ones who STARTED referring to themselves as 'teabaggers" why is it now verboten?)

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FR. I'm still wondering why the Mods don't like the term "Teabagger" for TEA party member.

Is one of the Mods a member of said party?

Should we be held responsible for the ignorance of others?

(The TEA party was the ones who STARTED referring to themselves as 'teabaggers" why is it now verboten?)

I'll take the hit too.

They called themselves teabaggers. Why can't we?

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So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they?

I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man.

Huh.
If only there were other black conservatives out there!
<cough, cough> Herman Cain <cough, cough>
<cough, cough> Condi Rice <cough, cough>
<cough, cough> Thomas Sowell <cough, cough>
<cough, cough> Clarence Thomas <cough, cough>
<cough, cough> Alfonzo Rachel <cough, cough>
<cough, cough> Walter E Williams <cough, cough>

And have any of those even come close to getting elected to anything? 2 of those aren't even politicians but economists. And 1 is a comedian for pjmedia which makes Breitbart look honest.
BTW maybe you've never heard of the word token?

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The party is just starting....
"Rand Paul Rails Against Chris Christie's 'Offensive' Appearances In Hurricane Sandy Ads"
Looks like the 11th commandment isn`t in play for 2916.....tee-he-he-he...
A poll I just saw said that Christie`s national numbers just topped rand`s in the gop presidential hopefuls contest.......making rand #2.....punn intended.
"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.) -- both possible 2016 Republican presidential contenders -- may be at odds again, the day after Christie celebrated his reelection.
During a Senate hearing Wednesday on the federal response to Hurricane Sandy, Paul voiced his disproval of the way some have politicized television ads meant to garner support for recovery fund campaigns.
Though Paul did not address Christie by name, he railed against funding campaigns in New Jersey that heavily featured political candidates, saying the ads give "a little bit of a black eye" to recovery efforts. The October 2012 storm killed more than 148 people and caused $68 billion in property damage.
“Some of these ads, people who are running for office put their mug all over the ads while they’re in the middle of a political campaign," Paul said. "In New Jersey, $25 million was spent on ads that included somebody running for political office."
Paul said this could create "a conflict of interest," upsetting taxpayers who expect their dollars to be spent otherwise."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/06/rand-paul-chris-christie_n_4229441.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
The ads were not a waste of money, imho. They just promoted tourism in Jersey and let folks know that the shore was open, after a devastating 500 year storm.And considering rand and his fellow cult members just wasted 26 billion on their shutdown/extortion attempt ,we know he`s not sincere about promoting good government.

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I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man.