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Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:38:03 AM   
caralho


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Status: offline 		Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:42:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		What do you mean by mind control? What are you hoping to achieve?

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:49:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet. I'm aware that some of that is achieved with hypnotism but I have never done it

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:51:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho
Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you

You'll need to look in the fiction section of your local book store. In the real world no form of "mind control" or "mental programming" exists other than the stuff we are all used to every day -- advertising, political propaganda, etc. If there was some actual form of mind control then don't you think whoever developed it would... you know... be emperor of the earth already?

There are ways to influence people. Try reading books about sales & marketing. There are ways to be charismatic. Try reading some leadership books. There are no ways to control a mind directly.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:52:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho

Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you


Well, the first piece of guidance is...you are not a "dominate".

And second, hypnotism should only be done by someone who is trained and qualified. If you brush up against something not equipped to deal with you can cause major damage.


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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:56:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho
Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you

You'll need to look in the fiction section of your local book store. In the real world no form of "mind control" or "mental programming" exists other than the stuff we are all used to every day -- advertising, political propaganda, etc. If there was some actual form of mind control then don't you think whoever developed it would... you know... be emperor of the earth already?

There are ways to influence people. Try reading books about sales & marketing. There are ways to be charismatic. Try reading some leadership books. There are no ways to control a mind directly.

Thank you

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:58:07 AM   
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to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet. I'm aware that some of that is achieved with hypnotism but I have never done it


There's controversy over whether that is possible. Some claim yes, and others counter that it isn't the same type of orgasm as a hands-on orgasm. I don't have any direct experience with this myself.

If you search using the phrase "come on command" or "cum on command" you'll find a lot of material. Of course, not everything you read is true. So my advice would be to read a ton, believe none of it, and try out whatever sounds fun, without being disappointed if it doesn't work.

I think it's fair to say that it isn't possible for every woman, or every relationship, but you might have a special situation where it would be possible for your sub in your relationship. Then again, you might not.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 10:59:49 AM   
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Devotion is a keyword, what made so many intelligent guys go to prison over nixon?   Why would plow jockeys follow some fuckwad with a moustache and a chicken on his neck thru a hail of bullets and certain death to defend a symbol of a piece of red, white, blue cloth?

So, devotion, worship, blind obedience, however you wanna paint that fence......

Does not come from the heavens, but wells up like springs from the ground.

In other words, it has to be in her mind, and you cant plant it like corn.   Cultivate admirable qualities, good judgement, confidence, proven track record.....you know what?

If I tell you, everytime I kick you in the nuts, its gonna hurt.

And that comes true every time?  Then when I tell you I am gonna kick you in the nuts, you start hurting....

Does that make sense?  

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:09:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
There's controversy over whether that is possible. Some claim yes, and others counter that it isn't the same type of orgasm as a hands-on orgasm. I don't have any direct experience with this myself.

As i remember, the brain scans showed it looking pretty much like any other orgasm. Yes, we have a great deal of control over our own bodies and minds. So if the OP is looking to do this then he'll need to find a willing partner and then explore the various techniques for making it happen. I wish I could remember the show I saw on TV about it because the woman in question looked pretty credible (as did the brain scans) and she taught classes and wrote books.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:16:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you recall it, I'd be interested. I just searched "orgasm on command documentary" and saw no obvious hits.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:19:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I believe I saw one that was recorded and studied by Kinsey that had spontaneous orgasms (fuckin girls get all the breaks hah?) and it looked really real. 

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:23:17 AM   
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(fuckin girls get all the breaks hah?) 

A hypnodomme friend of mine called me all excited one night saying, "I made a guy come without touching himself at all!!!" My guess is that it's a lot easier to train a man to come on hypnotic command than it is to train a woman to do the same thing. Most men start out closer to the edge, so to speak.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:25:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		and in 1948, Alfred C. Kinsey of Indiana University conducted a groundbreaking study on the subject which revealed the percentage of females who can climax by fantasy alone is higher than males.

I dont own that book. I do own the 1954 'The Female Orgasm'.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:30:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lol, touche.

On the other hand, what do more recent followup studies say? I have no idea, and I have to get back to work now. I'll look at this thread later (maybe tomorrow) and if there's no more recent data, I'll see what I can find on Google Scholar.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:31:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho

Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you


How long have the two of you been together?

I am asking because I have been with [my] Master for over 4 years and He hasn't reached His limit with me, nor I with Him.

What things do you do with her?

For me, it is very much about my being in the moment with Him.

There are so many possibilities; I just find it sad that you have reached your limit.



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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:35:11 AM   
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Lol, touche.

On the other hand, what do more recent followup studies say? I have no idea, and I have to get back to work now. I'll look at this thread later (maybe tomorrow) and if there's no more recent data, I'll see what I can find on Google Scholar.


Not really Mags, I agree with your posit.  Because one is fantasy and one is hypnosis, and think about the complex fantasy that would be required for men to think up to actually cum.   Girls aint that far out.

Hypnosis got you right in the reptile brain, and that is where men live having sex.  

So, one is getting you to believe in the general sense, and one is actual fucking wiht the functions.

I hold your posit valid. 

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 11:41:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
If you recall it, I'd be interested. I just searched "orgasm on command documentary" and saw no obvious hits.

I'm pretty sure this was the one. The word "documentary" is perhaps a bit strong so we'll see how much my memory captured of what I saw.

http://video.tvguide.com/Strange+Sex/Strange+Sex+Season+1+Unusual+Orgasms/9217543/tvo-319856-season-1-episode-2?autoplay=true

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 12:08:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho

Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you


Mind control is a misnomer. My guess is that you have some unlearning to do as it is possible you have fantasies on this topic that are not grounded in reality. What you are after is more along the lines of behavior modification. Getting her to associate sexual imagery and passion with your actions.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 5:57:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you have reached the limit of your domination over your submissive then you may want to ask yourself why. Master and I have been together for over 7 years now and we have barely scratched the surface. It sounds strange to me when you state you have reached the limits. I don't get it.

As for making someone wet from just a voice...yup Master can do that with me but it's not because of some kind of magical mind control. It's because I love him so much that he still makes me hot to this day. It's not anything mystical or magical.


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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 7:56:38 PM   
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