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RE: Mind control help? - 11/8/2013 8:15:19 PM   
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to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet.


Well hell, I do this with my girlfriend, who isn't a submissive, all the time without even trying. I guess I'm just magical. Or else the OP needs to take a long, hard look at his relationship and figure out what needs to improve instead of relying on gimmicks. Just sayin.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/9/2013 2:36:37 PM   
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I believe I saw one that was recorded and studied by Kinsey that had spontaneous orgasms (fuckin girls get all the breaks hah?) and it looked really real. 



If you're referring to PGAD, when it happens for no reason, that's a seizure disorder. And those who suffer from it don't find it desirable.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 1:31:27 AM   
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If you have reached the limit of your domination over your submissive then you may want to ask yourself why. Master and I have been together for over 7 years now and we have barely scratched the surface. It sounds strange to me when you state you have reached the limits. I don't get it.

As for making someone wet from just a voice...yup Master can do that with me but it's not because of some kind of magical mind control. It's because I love him so much that he still makes me hot to this day. It's not anything mystical or magical.


This does not make a whole lot of sense to us either, a dominant reaching the limit with his or her submissive.
The key is when caralho says he seeks to expand his knowledge on (mind) control.
It sounds like he cannot control his sub without resorting to artificial means.
Which, in turn, would indicate that his sub does not fully accept his dominance.

This is a D/s issue, not a mind control issue. I do not have to control my sub's mind.
His mental disposition is geared toward pleasing me, and that is...
...well, that is pretty much a limitless realm, although I do make it manageable for him to be successful at it.
If it were up to him (which it isn't), I would exert more control over him than I choose to do.

Until you achieve a greater level of mastery over yourself, caralho, you are only going to be pissing into the wind.

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ORIGINAL: caralho

Male dominate who is looking for guidance in expanding his knowledge on mind control. Any books or where I can begin a search for this knowledge would be greatly appreciate as I have reached my limit with my submissive and would like to go further. Thank you

As for hotness and wetness factors, this requires a passionate love nature.
You either have the hots for one another or you do not.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 1:37:28 PM   
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to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet. I'm aware that some of that is achieved with hypnotism but I have never done it


There's controversy over whether that is possible. Some claim yes, and others counter that it isn't the same type of orgasm as a hands-on orgasm. I don't have any direct experience with this myself.

If you search using the phrase "come on command" or "cum on command" you'll find a lot of material. Of course, not everything you read is true. So my advice would be to read a ton, believe none of it, and try out whatever sounds fun, without being disappointed if it doesn't work.

I think it's fair to say that it isn't possible for every woman, or every relationship, but you might have a special situation where it would be possible for your sub in your relationship. Then again, you might not.

I've seen if first hand and unless I hadn't seen it myself I would have been skeptical, it just absolutely blew my mind someone had that much control and the sub was completely helpless

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 1:42:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan


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ORIGINAL: caralho

to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet.


Well hell, I do this with my girlfriend, who isn't a submissive, all the time without even trying. I guess I'm just magical. Or else the OP needs to take a long, hard look at his relationship and figure out what needs to improve instead of relying on gimmicks. Just sayin.


there is nothing wrong with our relationship, just found it totally fascinating because he could send a text with a simple key word and have a mental orgasm which that's what it really is. It's not genital orgasm but the mental sensation of a orgasm flowing through her body. Just amazed me and thought how do I learn this but found out it was planted with hypnosis


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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 1:44:06 PM   
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Completely helpless? Not even close.

Highly desires her mate as to WANT to do that? Yup.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 3:53:33 PM   
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So much of this depends on the submissives willingness to engage in this and not you.

The way you are approaching this reads a little uber dommy.

Back from my old old submissive days one of the things my partner liked was if I orgasmed when he did. So that's what I did, and I needed to make that happen, there wasn't much he could do to train me to do it.

It was all about my willingness to closely tie my attentiveness and pleasure to his. It was all about tying my arousal to his arousal.

I still do this today, and I am not in a D/s relationship, as this "skill" had nothing to do with the dominant, but my willingness to do something for the dominant.

These links need to be made willingly, and need to be done in a way that is pleasing to the submissive involved.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 5:46:17 PM   
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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 6:02:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: caralho

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1


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ORIGINAL: caralho

to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet. I'm aware that some of that is achieved with hypnotism but I have never done it


There's controversy over whether that is possible. Some claim yes, and others counter that it isn't the same type of orgasm as a hands-on orgasm. I don't have any direct experience with this myself.

If you search using the phrase "come on command" or "cum on command" you'll find a lot of material. Of course, not everything you read is true. So my advice would be to read a ton, believe none of it, and try out whatever sounds fun, without being disappointed if it doesn't work.

I think it's fair to say that it isn't possible for every woman, or every relationship, but you might have a special situation where it would be possible for your sub in your relationship. Then again, you might not.

I've seen if first hand and unless I hadn't seen it myself I would have been skeptical, it just absolutely blew my mind someone had that much control and the sub was completely helpless



It never occurred to you that the sub might have been faking it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OeM6UUAoI

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/10/2013 8:18:22 PM   
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There's a trick to making someone cum on command that works 99.9% of the time.... Wait until they're about to cum, then tell them to cum right as they do, and keep repeating it until they finish cumming XD if they fail to cum using this method, you are a complete failure as a Dom and should immediately take steps to learn to be a monk or a slave XD

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/11/2013 7:06:29 AM   
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to a point where just mere words can induce orgasm, someone who is so devoted to you that your voice alone can make her wet. I'm aware that some of that is achieved with hypnotism but I have never done it


Be more desirable.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/11/2013 7:19:15 AM   
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A copy of a post I made on the subject a few months back:

Yes, it's possible in the female. I have no experience with males in terms of a verbal only command. (Most male orgasm control is based on denial and chastity, as opposed to coming on command. Of course, if you know how to massage the prostate, you can get a male to do whatever you want.)

In any case, most doms who like this idea are clueless as to how to achieve it. What follows is a post I made on the subject a little over a year ago.

Orgasm control is one of those things that if done right, is a fantastic bonding experience. If done wrong, it's NOT. You could easily end up with a non-orgasmic sub.

Sooooooooooooo, OP, show this to your dom please.

The number one rule of orgasm control is: know (w/o a doubt) when your sub is about to climax.

Pay attention to all the little minor things that lead to an orgasm, as well as the ones that don't.

The important thing for a male dominant to understand about orgasm control in the female, is that the dom has to train himself. The female just goes along with his program and obeys.

Chose a orgasm command that your sub likes and will respond to. "Come for me" is a favorite.

In the beginning phases of orgasm control DO NOT do any orgasm withholding, any edging (bring to the edge of orgasm and then backing off), NONE of that. Start out with:
Once you are positive your sub is about to climax (in other words, it's happening with or w/o you), give the command.

If she doesn't come, you keep up stimulating activity and say it again (as if it's all part of the same command.). Realize you will never be good at orgasm control if you use any negative reinforcement whatsoever. It's all positive reinforcement.

Once you can predict your sub's orgasms 100% of the time, now you get to move on to some very mild edging. So bring her to the edge, back off (different things work for different people -- pain may back me off, a maso might come on the spot). Back off once. If she starts to come, give the command. If you can bring her back up, do so.

Rinse and repeat until you are really really good at getting her to back off once. And yeah, this takes time and infinite patience. It also takes LOTS of orgasms, so it's all good.

Once you have master the above, you can move on to withholding longer a/o edging 2-3 times. Few people will last past 3 times. Realize no matter how observant you are, she will come when you least expect it. Just give the command.

Many people into this type of control like to fool around with "don't come yet" which can be all yummy once you have orgasm control down and know it won't stop the climax in it's tracks. Be very very careful with this. Remember, subs like to be obedient. Loss of patience at this step could mean you have trained your sub NOT to come.

It has been my experience that all of the above training will be much easier of you can keep up a hot sexy conversation with your sub. Just enough to keep her out of deep sub space so she is actually aware of your commands.


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RE: Mind control help? - 11/11/2013 7:38:38 AM   
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If I am in a meeting and someone sent me a text to "cum now", even if I was mad about him I would just turn off the text and get back to what I was doing.

I don't believe in mind control. If I am hot for you, that's all you need.

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RE: Mind control help? - 11/11/2013 7:47:36 AM   
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I can't possibly imagine *any* work situation where Himself sending me a text to come would work for me. That's not where my focus is at when I work, which is why I can get away with working at home, I'm very goal oriented and can be extremely focused on the tasks at hand.

The above posting was to explain how to get this sort of response from your sub, and I totally agree that it will only happen if she's in a receptive mood. The right dom with a great relationship with his sub can keep her in a receptive mood much of the time, when she's not focused on important things like work.

I will also state that it doesn't work for everyone, and I don't have any idea why that is, be it the dom's failure to 'train,' the sub's failure to be receptive, etc.

I just think it works for some, and I'm one of them. But then Himself would never make the mistake of giving me that sort of command when I was focused on a task I needed to complete. He would 'reorient' my focus to him, and then proceed how he wished.

But, you know, we've been doing this for awhile.

ETA: I don't consider this 'mind control' in the least. It's orgasm control.

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