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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 12:40:18 PM   
Bearlee


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Status: offline 		Interesting, joyinslavery; tell me, would you DO as told if your Top just said ‘stay’?  What I get is a bunch of flack because I say this politely and use Please and Thankyou…  Does that mean to you…weakness?  I’m must curious here… it’s an interesting dilemma…or can be. 

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 1:11:03 PM   
joyinslavery


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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

Interesting, joyinslavery; tell me, would you DO as told if your Top just said ‘stay’?  What I get is a bunch of flack because I say this politely and use Please and Thankyou…  Does that mean to you…weakness?  I’m must curious here… it’s an interesting dilemma…or can be. 


Hi Bearlee (nice profile btw).  Yes absolutely.  I don't disobey and if given an instruction, I will always comply.  For example, if my Dominant simply said "stay" that's exactly what would happen.  Likewise, if it was an instruction (or an understanding) not to even attempt escape (for whatever reason) then I certainly would not even try to free myself.  But, if there is no clear understanding or instruction, I will typically at least try to free myself.  Sometimes I do this out of sheer boredom or to occupy my time when being kept in long-term bondage (which I do enjoy very much) or sometimes I just see a weakness and work to exploit it to free myself.  There's also a mental aspect to it...just a game to see if I can do it and it's not easy.  Sometimes it takes hours for me to get completely free once I start so it can definitely be a challenge.  But the one thing I DON'T do is disobey.  If I'm told not to attempt escape I won't.   I was just wondering whether this sub was given such an instruction.  

No, I personally don't see that as weakness (please, thank you, etc.) but personally, I prefer a command or direction without them.  That's just me though.  If those words were used, they can also have a bit of intent too.  I'm thinking of a Dominant looking down at me and saying, "Don't move from that position again.  Thank you." with an empasis on the "Thank you" and in a tone of voice that lets me know in no uncertain terms it's all business and I had better pay attention.  That would stop me right in my tracks and you can be sure I wouldn't be moving, LOL. 

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 1:33:28 PM   
skaterboy


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Status: offline 		having not read all the replies but answering the question...what to do with an unruly sub, I would suggest the following.
Let him know you are the ruler
Introduce him to the ruler
Measure him and laugh
and then beat his unruly butt with the ruler.
Good luck

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 2:38:50 PM   
Bearlee


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Status: offline 		Mmmmmmm...  Yes.  Good boy. 
 
What I was thinking was..."Would you go get me a cup of coffee, please"?  That's not really a question, then; is it?
 
As far as the rest goes, I couldn't agree more.  If and when I'm tied up; I want to KNOW I'm tied up.  While I won't go to extraordinary measures to test it...I don't want hold the damn bonds myself (as happened once!  UGG )
 
For me, generally speaking, play is about interaction; so…if I am to ‘hold’ a person some way, it will be for my purposes; dripping was onto, or dragging a knife along…  I don’t understand the point of tying somebody up and leaving them for long periods. 
 
Course, I don’t live with a submissive, either.  Perhaps if I had a cheeky little one like you, I’d tie him up now and then just to get some respite!  LOL

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 8:14:14 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: mistresszariah1
I have a sub that likes to play hudini, test My patience and keep Me on edge? how do I get this puppy uncontrol?

If the problem is that he's efficient at getting out of bondage, get better.  Or fuck with his head and use superglue.  CA is ok for skin....the army uses it for field suturing in emergent situations.  It comes off with acetone (a-based nail polish remover) or with human piss.  That will turn the tables and test HIS patience. 

If it's a matter of disrespectful disobedience, the most effective punishments are removing their pleasures, removing YOU from the equation or completely ignoring them.  Or how about having a sit-down and discussing the disrespect like adults? LOL

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 8:18:10 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs
have the nose of the unruly one hold a dime against the wall.  If it moves, it starts all over again. 

This is one of my most favorites, however, this is generally reserved for a slave who is antsy or who can't stand still.  Yes, it's mean of me to set them up for failure, but in the end, it teaches them to be more calm and graceful.

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/5/2006 8:34:59 PM   
MistressDREAD


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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub

I never deal with subs as I only Own slaves and have always only dealt with slaves
however My acts can be applyed to a sub as well.
This sounds like a sub way past unruly and is tempting to Top from the bottom.
Id get out the bubble wrap and start discussing what kind of human furniture I was
going to make as I stripped tape off the roll and set it on the table as I expressed
in great detail how this human furniture is going to be in this position for a day or two
and how the human body reacts to such mumifications. THEN Id talk about someone who the sub really doesent like comming over
to check on the mummy as I go out to a movie and dining establishment with yet another someone the sub doesent like and Ive been wanting to go to and waiting to see for a while.  ~evil grin~

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/6/2006 12:20:50 AM   
Nikolette


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Status: offline 		I'm a huge fan of kneeling/balancing on something grainy and hard. I recommend everyone try Old Fashioned Grits. These little things are devilishly painful. Fortunately I haven't had any opportunities to use them recently.

I also made notes on using the humbler and having a cup of tea. *laughs* My sub doesn't get out of bondage, but he does get snotty sometimes and needs to be reminded of his position.

And the super glue and thought of human piss dissolving it has epic ranges of usefulness.

Also to those of you who confessed how well it works to be forced to face the wall for a couple hours.... thank you. That has true applicable value.

.... One personal favorite of mine as a punishment is doubling up of chores. Wash the dishes AND scrub the bathroom with a toothbruth, possibly the subs toothbrush... AND wash the walls, scrub the floors on hands and knees... AND get that random spring cleaning type of chore done you've been putting off for months because it as so hard/time consuming/back breaking.

Idle hands ... as they say. *smirks* I like to keep them busy. And hopefully they'll be thinking about "... if only I hadn't been such a bratty sub.. I could be massaging her legs right now instead of this grunt work... (sigh) ...."



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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/10/2006 3:10:52 AM   
mons


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ladies i had my last rope. I wrote before i had a wonderful slave i will put a ? mark on this one. he  started out to be a shy sweet submissive we talk for sometime. He was the one who borke dates with me i am not sure if any of you remember but, i thougth he was shy i went to the submissive and slave forum to ask what in the world is wrong i decide to let him have time to get to know me more so we talk online and we spoke on the phone the problem was i am a person who has sleep apena i sleep at anytime i must use a mask i wake up at odd hours. but when i was on he was on two at 2am or 3 am so i told him i am up in the day time you need to call at this time , will you guess he never call so i wrote him and explain do not be scare do you trust me oh yes he does. but i told him to ccall me this day at 3 and at give him a long time so i said until 8pm i am not fool he is not the only slave i ever had i am a very good domme but i had it it does not matter we have the same mind like things history and art stamp collecting i have a large stamp collection very old. this is not workingat all i am over and i have serevals other who are willing to have me. but has anyone ever just tried to get someone a chance and they fuck up i will not speak with him. it is sad who could had maybe lol just no hello no he is not ready for anything but i wish him well. watch out ladies he is a charmer but not for longer lol thank for listening ladies i thank you so
yes i am alittle mad lolmons

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/11/2006 6:05:47 PM   
LTRsubNW


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Status: offline 		(Hmmmm...I always thought he spelled it "Houdini"...but hey...I've been wrong before...1967 I believe it was...it was raining...8:47 if I recall...ahhh yes...but that was so long ago and another lifetime...)

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RE: what do you do with an unruly sub - 7/12/2006 9:05:17 AM   
HoneyMistNJ


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Status: offline 		Good afternoon,
Occasionally I come across subs who top from the bottom. I just let them rattle on until there done. I will say something like..Are you done and then I have him kneel,  have his arms restrained behind him. He is instructed to clean the bathroom floor. If I don't like how he did, or just because,  I make him do it again....using the whip he dislikes the most. 

Greast ideas from this group...I shall have fun using...Thank you

< Message edited by HoneyMistNJ -- 7/12/2006 9:06:38 AM >

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