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ORIGINAL: Marc2b cheap, smarmy, smiling, arrogant, obnoxious, right wing Christian assholes... your average hate filled, gay bashing, woman oppressing, science hating, racist dickhead is an right wing Christian. How strange that they didn't like you. One of the world's unsolved mysteries, that one. An anonymous Good Samaritan has been traveling around the US since at least September leaving thousands of dollars worth of tips wherever they go. Calling themselves "TipsForJesus," the mysterious stranger or strangers have so far kept their true identity from being leaked as they drop tips ranging from $500 to $10,000 at seemingly random establishments. ~Gawker More here and here. K.
I don't know what this is supposed to prove, do kind deeds negate the very reality of what has passed for religion, the hate and so forth that is out there? There are a lot of people of faith who do good works, who aren't bigots and simply try to live into their faith, the problem is they have been drowned out by the haters, whether it is the Catholic Bishops, the douchebags who write comments any time there is a story about LGBT people, the evangelical Christians and their scumbag leaders like Rick Warren and Joel Osteen or the so called "Concerned Women for America" or the "Family Research Council" and the rest of them, or most of the GOP for that matter....want to know something, Kirata, if you are tired of being accused of being a bigot or seeing the religious denigrated as being such, then speak up...the problem with many of the 'good Christians' is they sit back and watch the action of the Fred Phelps, or the cafeteria Catholics who dominate the RC in the US yet when their Bishops act like the douchebags they are, they hide, they pretend it doesn't exist, pretend their Bishops are just silly old men, but then they get upset when someone in response to pronouncements from the Bishops about gays or trans people, characterizes Catholics as hateful morons..... it is funny, many Christians in the US talk about Muslims and say that the Muslims who are peaceful and whatnot don't say or do anything about the crazies; well, guess what, we have a lot of hateful, stupid Christian types out there, they dominate the GOP, and where are the "good Christians" to shout them down, to tell them to shut up and stop making a mockery of the faith......*chirp chirp chirp*. William Shirer, who bore witness to the rise of Hitler in Germany and the horror of that regime as a CBS reported there all through the 1930's, when the McCarthy scourge and red fever hit the US, made a comment when CBS fired him for being too outspoken about McCarthy and the threat he posed. He said that it was exactly the same thing in Nazi Germany, where the "Good Germans" stayed silent when the loonies started their rise to power, pretended it didn't exist, made fun of it in private, and then after the war claimed there was nothing they could have done about it, they were victims. My answer to people of religious faith who feel like they are being cast in with the loonies, is to speak up and make your voices heard, and loudly. If the idiots put a ballot measure banning same sex marriage or banning the teaching of evolution, speak out and get off your ass and vote (sorry, folks, you stay home, you let the loonies win). Your Bishop goes off about how Catholicism is about being anti abortion and anti same sex marriage, let him know about it, raise a ruckus in your church and make clear you want none of your pledge going to the diocese and to the Bishop, and encourage others to do the same. The reason that good people of faith are being called names is because the rotten side of religion has been allowed to predominate, the anti science, anti reason, and worse, those who believe the law should reflect their version of the Bible, types have become somehow 'the faithful'.....one of the reasons this story resonated so much with people, even if it is false, is what supposedly happened here happens all the time to LGBT people, and it is generally fired up and backed by 'religious belief', whether it is someone fired because they were suspected of being gay, or a truck driver for a supermarket chain who someone ratted out as a closet crossdresser (at home, mind you) and his bosses fired him, this is how many LGBT people experience people of faith. Even in liberal churches, that proclaim their acceptance for all, I/we have had to deal with this incredibly liberal pastor, all full of causes, telling lGBT people that you need to understand the haters, that their faith means so much to them, that they are ignorant and have been brought up this way...my comment to him was that is like telling Jews to ignore the holocaust or anti semitism, because those things were ingrained, too, the people who committed those horrible acts believed the crap spewed at Jews as truth, and that explaining away evangelicals and the like is like explaining away the KKK, doesn't sit well.
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