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RE: The next shoe to drop.... - 1/17/2014 11:27:49 AM   
Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And you attack me for being an alarmist, talk about hypocritical


Here's the difference, since you seem incapable of grasping it:.

You stated as fact that our current energy policy was unsustainable. When in fact, as I pointed out, our current energy policy is sustainable - as any casual google search would turn up. Google coal reserves, oil reserves, uranium availability. Clathyrates.

I point to a phenomenon that is a natural result of the ACA. I provided you two sources to Administration documents that butressed what I said - the federal register, and Sibelius's draft implimentation guidelines. In other posts I have also cited insurance memos that advised the administration what the laws impact would be.

Not that its difficult to provide any number of sources for the low information liberals around here.
For example:

"On October 17, the Obama Department of Health and Human Services, represented by the Obama Justice Department, submitted a brief to the federal district court in Washington, opposing Priests for Life’s summary judgment motion. On page 27 of its brief

It is projected that more group health plans will transition to the requirements under the regulations as time goes on … Defendants have estimated that a majority of group health plans will have lost their grandfather status by the end 2013

Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tygrrrr-express/2013/nov/19/lying-continues-obamacare-has-group-insurance-poli/#ixzz2qgVe3VSq

Now of course the mandate was pushed of for a year subsequently. But nonetheless it was and is the administrations position that more than half of the current group health plans will be lost.

Do the math sonny. Thats well over 50 million people.

Not enough for you? How about this: that says 5% of America has already LOST employer provided health care since the advent of Ostupid care:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152621/fewer-americans-employer-based-health-insurance.aspx

Or this:
The Department of Health and Human Services estimated in 2010 that up to 80 percent of small-group plans, defined as having fewer than 100 workers, could be discontinued by the end of 2013.

Or this:
The International Franchise Association and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have studied the impact and say the president's health care law has resulted in higher costs and fewer full-time positions.

A survey showed 31 percent of franchise businesses, and 12 percent of non-franchise businesses, have already reduced worker hours. It also showed 27 percent of franchise businesses, and 12 percent of non-franchise businesses, have replaced full-time workers with part-time employees.

(Obama care is reducing the number of fulltime workers who thereby are required to be offered healthcare).



See the difference Sonny? Your fantasy occured in your mind.
Insurance cancellations are already happening.

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RE: The next shoe to drop.... - 1/17/2014 11:44:48 AM   
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well, coal dont run in cars, and you've bitched yourself how long it takes to put a coal plant on line and the restrictions on burning that rancid filthy shit into the air we breathe,  water in the oglalla aquifier is drying up due to the fracking, clathyrates are a long ways off and not being r and deed in any large hurry.........so..........dunno. it is not cut and fracked that we are good to go.

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RE: The next shoe to drop.... - 1/17/2014 2:55:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, coal dont run in cars, and you've bitched yourself how long it takes to put a coal plant on line and the restrictions on burning that rancid filthy shit into the air we breathe,  water in the oglalla aquifier is drying up due to the fracking, clathyrates are a long ways off and not being r and deed in any large hurry.........so..........dunno. it is not cut and fracked that we are good to go.


I've bitched about how long it takes to bring a nuclear plant on line. Not a coal plant.

Oil production in the US is strongly up, even if not a lot of trucks et.al are converting to LNG, for the cost savings.

I didn't say there wouldn't be changes - only that it wasn't unsustainable. I mean .. 'no change' is your mantra - go back to walking to spear your mastadon burger.

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RE: The next shoe to drop.... - 1/17/2014 3:38:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, coal dont run in cars, and you've bitched yourself how long it takes to put a coal plant on line and the restrictions on burning that rancid filthy shit into the air we breathe,  water in the oglalla aquifier is drying up due to the fracking, clathyrates are a long ways off and not being r and deed in any large hurry.........so..........dunno. it is not cut and fracked that we are good to go.


I once had a pinto that I used to make chicken out of the hatchback.

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