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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:08:13 AM

Lilmissbossy

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Did I portray Israel as innocent? I must have went to sleep while typing.. let me look over that post again.

While you're looking, count the number of concessions you said everyone around Israel has to do and then count the number of concessions you think Israel should make.
Because by my count, you expected the Palestinians and others to make 6 concessions and Israel to make none.

If the PA wants to have open borders with Egypt, control of the gaza coastline etc. the obvious path is to

1) stop launching rockets into Israel
2) stop kidnapping Israelis from inside Israel
3) change the PLO charter as required by at least three seperate agreements
4) cease teaching the blood libel in PA schools
5)cease the outrageous propoganda about Israeli use of WMD
6) and return to negotiations on the final status of the territories.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:22:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Did I portray Israel as innocent? I must have went to sleep while typing.. let me look over that post again.

While you're looking, count the number of concessions you said everyone around Israel has to do and then count the number of concessions you think Israel should make.
Because by my count, you expected the Palestinians and others to make 6 concessions and Israel to make none.

Ah but here's the rub, I wasn't discussing Israel! Somebody whined that the PA didn't get the priveleges of a nation as an excuse for terrorism. I responded by explaining what the PA could do to get those priveleges.

The concessions Israel should make to bring peace? Cease torture of prisoners, Cease destroying the homes of the families of suicide bombers, release those Hamas legislators who haven't been directly involved in the planning of terrorist actions, Cease expansions of West Bank settlements out side the Jerusalem suburbs, Exercise more caution in the use of force to stop terrorist attacks but no so much caution that it endangers Israeli civilians.

They should also probably find some way to release the money earmarked for the PA without giving it to Hamas or Fatah but I have no idea how to pull that off.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:27:22 AM

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Having peace in the Middle East is simple. Stop attacking Israel and accept the right for Israel to exist. How much more simple do you want it?

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:30:44 AM

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Estring. I think you are saying the Palastinians ought to get just used to living as second class citizens in their own country and what little they have left of their own land they should give that up to more Israeli settlements too.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:41:06 AM

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How the hell did we get from the Dixie Chicks to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict??? Back to the Chicks and the CountryWestern stations that banned them: how typical of the Re-thug-clicans and the redneck crackers: they squawk the loudest about patriotism and being true americans, but they are always the first ones to suppress free speech!!! The hypocrites...

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 10:42:19 AM

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Having peace in the Middle East is simple. Stop attacking Israel and accept the right for Israel to exist. How much more simple do you want it?

Estring, if someone came to your home, threw you out, bulldozed your house, built their own house on your land, sent you to live somewhere else, would you

A) Say "ok then"
B) Fight back

Judging by your comments, you'd be in the 'A' category?

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 11:48:58 AM

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i already tried to get back to the Chicks and the radical opposition just escalated

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 1:50:56 PM

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The Chicks are nothing worth talking about anyways. They suck every bit as much as most of the other "posers" that call them selves "country". Let them try rock. They can not be any worse.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 1:54:55 PM

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You need to keep up...that is exactly what they are doing.... and as long as they keep their actual musical talent dumbed down, they can count on as many fans as the next rock act.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 2:09:35 PM

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That is what they are doing? No shit? Is that why it is spread all over the front page of MSN.com and goodness only knows where else? Well I will be damned.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 2:19:40 PM

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Yeah, that is what 'rock acts' do these days...

Surely you aren't going to trot out that tired old mantra of tone deaf guitar wankers every where that 'girls can't play rock' are you?

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 3:20:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: shtrbg

i already tried to get back to the Chicks and the radical opposition just escalated

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:16:34 PM

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Yeah, that is what 'rock acts' do these days...

Surely you aren't going to trot out that tired old mantra of tone deaf guitar wankers every where that 'girls can't play rock' are you?

Nope. Girls can play rock just fine. My point, because you missed it, was that the Chicks should be allowed to try to, and evidently are, because goodness knows they suck at country. Maybe they will finally find their niche.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:30:07 PM

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hmmm

but it isn't thier land now is it? Palestine lost the war. They need to move on and make a new life somewhere else.

By this same thinking...we would have to give back Chicago to the American Indians that used to live there near the lake, and give back Northern Indiana to the Miami tribe, and the Appalician mountains to the Cherokee.

War doesn't work that way. You lose. You lose. You can either go on....rebuild a life somewhere else, it isn't fair, in fact it sucks big time. But it is a story played out over thousands of years with many different civilizations. The alternative is to keep on fighting the war and diminish your people even more by fighting. Babies die that way. So do the men that plant seeds in the woman's belly's. Women die that bear the children. Sometimes the wisest thing to do is stop fighting. Chief Joseph saved lives by giving up. Less people die that way. You know.....a person that isn't fighting can get a job....build a house.....make a new home somewhere else. And LIVE.

oh shooot

i'm a conservative....and i'm sounding like a.....pacifist....

what's up with that???

yikes....i must need caffiene or something...

grin
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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:32:40 PM

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woops....

it always pays to read all the posts before posting ....

now i look like an inconsiderate boob

sigh

at least the boob part is half right.....

lol
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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:38:32 PM

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hmmm

i love this sort of interaction....

i'm a red state girl at heart...

i didn't stop listening to the chicks because the stations stopped playing the music....

i stopped listening to the channels that played the chicks....

you know...that whole republican market based vote with your on off button or radio dial type thing.

the country channels realized that the base...not the stations...but the people that listen...didn't want to hear anything that came out of the chick's mouths....especially the fat chick.

i love the music....but dang she seriously ticked me off with her comments.....she is not a political person...she is a singer...she should keep to singing and stay out of politics or it ticks off her base....

now on the other hand...i'm not a singer so i can say whatever i want to....
LOL (wry self depreciating grin)

but seriously......

the republican party had nothing to do with the demise of the chicks on country radio.

the fan's that refused to listen to her music did. that isn't a political party...that is the people.....en masse...making themselves heard.

can't get more democratic than that....

grin
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(stir up the pot...add a little humor....taste....stir...)

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:49:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: earthylaughter

hmmm

i love this sort of interaction....

i'm a red state girl at heart...

i didn't stop listening to the chicks because the stations stopped playing the music....

i stopped listening to the channels that played the chicks....

you know...that whole republican market based vote with your on off button or radio dial type thing.

the country channels realized that the base...not the stations...but the people that listen...didn't want to hear anything that came out of the chick's mouths....especially the fat chick.

i love the music....but dang she seriously ticked me off with her comments.....she is not a political person...she is a singer...she should keep to singing and stay out of politics or it ticks off her base....

now on the other hand...i'm not a singer so i can say whatever i want to....
LOL (wry self depreciating grin)

but seriously......

the republican party had nothing to do with the demise of the chicks on country radio.

the fan's that refused to listen to her music did. that isn't a political party...that is the people.....en masse...making themselves heard.

can't get more democratic than that....

grin
earthylaughter

(stir up the pot...add a little humor....taste....stir...)

Country music fans...largely republican voters - But, no matter.....they have the 2nd top selling album...talented ladies. They will be just fine.

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:49:48 PM

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well, you gotta admit most CW listeners, particularly in the states where stations dropped the chicks at listeners' incitement, are GOP voters = republicans -- or krypto-GOPers passing as independent...

However: thank you for proving my point! You said she is a singer, therefore she should just sing without a political word in her music... Last I heard, she has the Constitutional right to sing whatever she wants -- just as the religious right can have their rock singers, such as they are, proselytizing their faith...

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:51:43 PM

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Well put, me bonnie colleen! You impish lass, you!

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RE: Dixie Chicks: Radical Chicks? - 7/20/2006 6:54:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: SCORPIOXXX

well, you gotta admit most CW listeners, particularly in the states where stations dropped the chicks at listeners' incitement, are GOP voters = republicans -- or krypto-GOPers passing as independent...

No matter, Pop culture took the Chicks right in (Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow, Spingsteen....

However: thank you for proving my point! You said she is a singer, therefore she should just sing without a political word in her music... Last I heard, she has the Constitutional right to sing whatever she wants -- just as the religious right can have their rock singers, such as they are, proselytizing their faith...

Good point. Since the media seems to neglect speaking any kind of truth lately....we need someone to remind us that we are American, and....have the right to sing, speak, yell or scream....

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