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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/12/2014 10:43:37 PM   
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The woman was unconcious. Paramedics arrived at her home. She didn't die at her home.

The paramedics, for some reason, decided to transport her without an ambulance. She wasn't dead at this point. According to the reports, they transfered her to one en-route. She didn't die during the transfer and she didn't die en-route to the hospital after the transfer.

She died of cardiac arrest at the hospital.
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You've heard of "the Golden Hour"? Minutes count.



You recall Hillary Clinton's "Who do want to answer the Red phone at 3AM?" during the 2008 Democratic primary? Given what happened in Benghazi before, during and after 9/11/12 obviously neither Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.




There was over a hundred armed CIA operatives there, with in minutes. They were the ones who beat the mob back and rescued the survivors....


When shrub was told of the 9/11 attack......he continued to read "my pet goat"....







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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/12/2014 11:01:24 PM   
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You recall Hillary Clinton's "Who do want to answer the Red phone at 3AM?" during the 2008 Democratic primary? Given what happened in Benghazi before, during and after 9/11/12 obviously neither Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.




There was over a hundred armed CIA operatives there, with in minutes. They were the ones who beat the mob back and rescued the survivors....




Factually untrue. Please provide ANY source that says that.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 7:19:06 AM   
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Christie seems to be under investigation by the Feds now.. and I have heard some of those people "inconvenienced" by the bridge closure are suing him for that too.. the poor dude's problems seem to be multiplying..


"New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, viewed by many as a hero of Superstorm Sandy, is now facing a federal investigation into his use of millions in money his administration received as part of a massive recovery package,"

http://gma.yahoo.com/feds-investigating-christie-39-sandy-relief-funds-132532933--abc-news-topstories.html

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 8:42:00 AM   
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/13/22289528-feds-will-probe-post-sandy-tv-ads-that-starred-christie-lawmaker-says?lite

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 8:48:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		As usual and b/c they`re genetically predisposed and unable not to, rightist media is blaming the MSM media for Christie`s bridge closing and trying to make him into a victim/hero, and trying to drag President Obama into it.... Proof positive that the lunatic-fringe is worried and upset.

Gop leadership is freaked out too. Barber and the very French sounding Reince Priebus are screaming BFD. These are the DBs running the national gop election efforts. One headline I read went "Christie`s worst week was in Washington", because of the buzz going on there. The two words heard above the din on the New York-DC train was "Chris Christie", over and over, said one reporter.

Unless you`re a wonk, it`s hard to understand all the activity in Washington DC.....and why the DC cons are running around like chickens w/ their heads cut off....

Whether or not it`s proven that Christie knew about the political attack in advance(impeachable), his position as the head of the National Republican Governors Association is toast. The cons aren`t going to want Americans to be reminded about Christies` nakedly savage political retribution. The kind the lunatic fringe is always trying to accuse democrats of committing...

Christies` top aid ,who Christie has pawned blame off on, is the #2 guy at the National Republican Governors Association...who of course, will get the boot. It`s also very possible that their top presidential contender, knocked himself out.

My prediction on the Sandy Relief funds thing: The LF will scream Obama/Benghazi and claim it`s proof Obama is behind Bridgegate.



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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 11:55:30 AM   
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You recall Hillary Clinton's "Who do want to answer the Red phone at 3AM?" during the 2008 Democratic primary? Given what happened in Benghazi before, during and after 9/11/12 obviously neither Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.




There was over a hundred armed CIA operatives there, with in minutes. They were the ones who beat the mob back and rescued the survivors....




Factually untrue. Please provide ANY source that says that.



Yeah. I thought not.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 12:24:01 PM   
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You recall Hillary Clinton's "Who do want to answer the Red phone at 3AM?" during the 2008 Democratic primary? Given what happened in Benghazi before, during and after 9/11/12 obviously neither Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.




There was over a hundred armed CIA operatives there, with in minutes. They were the ones who beat the mob back and rescued the survivors....




Factually untrue. Please provide ANY source that says that.



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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 2:57:05 PM   
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Aren't you the one who claimed to have direct information from 'on the ground' at Benghazi? And then refused to back that up yourself?



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You recall Hillary Clinton's "Who do want to answer the Red phone at 3AM?" during the 2008 Democratic primary? Given what happened in Benghazi before, during and after 9/11/12 obviously neither Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.




There was over a hundred armed CIA operatives there, with in minutes. They were the ones who beat the mob back and rescued the survivors....




Factually untrue. Please provide ANY source that says that.





The news?


The recorded accounts, etc...


Is it my job to educate the ignorant?


What if I`m talking with a complete jerk-off-sock-puppet(someone with two or more forum accounts) who has interest with a thoughtful, enlightening exchange of ideas and POVS?




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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 3:11:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		A couple other points the lunatic fringe ignores/doesn`t know/doesn`t want you to know.....1. that the POS republicans leaked the secret location of the compound of said CIA operatives during their witch hunt, that was a couple blocks away form the consulate.


By doing this, those fucking douche-bag traitors compromised the CIA`s operations and any Libyan who was known to associate with the secret CIA compound, namely, the CIA armed, CIA trained and CIA paid Libyan operatives I mentioned.


http://www.juancole.com/2012/11/republicans-tip-world-off-to-covert-cia-role-in-libya.html


"The politicization by the Republican Party of the tragic attack on the US consulate in Benghazi has been a security disaster for the United States. A document dump by Congressman Darrell Issa outed the identities of Libyans working with the US.
Now, it has come out that the annex of the Benghazi consulate was a Central Intelligence Agency HQ. Likely the consulate itself was thought safe because of the large numbers of CIA operatives at the annex, some of them with a background in military special forces. They were seen by the consulate staff as “the cavalry.”


And 2....that the POS republicans cut hundreds of millions of dollars from embassy secrurity and that SofS Clinton had warned that it could put our foreign service personnel at greater risk.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html


Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'


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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 3:53:27 PM   
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Back to the GWB, the NYT ran a good story on how the events played out and impacted the public in its Monday edition. Basically closing the lanes impacted the area significantly and posed a security risk for the bridge.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 4:15:42 PM   
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As well, we had to make a new one, wasting even more of our tax dollars.


dick douche-bag did this with Plamegate, revealing the secret front business the CIA was using as a cover called Brewster Jennings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Jennings_%26_Associates




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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/13/2014 4:45:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was just one lane, sometimes two.....(over a 4 day long period) but there`s a compounding affect that eventually slows most of the lanes down.

Some people reported two hour crossing depending on the approach. There was a middle aged woman who had a panic attack and was livid, screaming she had voted for Christie.

It got so bad that EMTs had to make their way on foot.

No one knew what was happened or was informed. Not the police commander nor the fire-chief. This is how they knew something was fishy and why they called for an investigation.

On the 1st day,one official was fearing that this never ending traffic jam would cause folks harm.

These are the guys who`re supposed to have direct communication with Trenton or Albany because they are in charge of public safety. That they were ignored for days is inexcusable. I don`t care how many high school buddies Chris throws under a bus,he can`t claim he didn`t know.

Christie dissing and mocking a reporter when he asked about Bridgegate shows he was aware of the stunt long before a two days ago.







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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/15/2014 4:45:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you not realize that this is the compound I have been posting and posting and posting about for almost a year.

Are you really only finding out about it just now?

Really?

And for the record the staff at the time was 17 - not hundreds iirc. And no, the compound was known way before the ISSA hearings.






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They had to leave the compound and lost all the millions of dollars we invested in it.


As well, we had to make a new one, wasting even more of our tax dollars.


dick douche-bag did this with Plamegate, revealing the secret front business the CIA was using as a cover called Brewster Jennings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Jennings_%26_Associates








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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/15/2014 4:47:43 PM   
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Time will tell but as of now (as predicted) big ho hum. Commence your wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/15/2014 4:49:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Faux crisis? So the 91 year old woman isn't actually dead, and if she is, it was Obama who did all of this, right?


You've cried 'Wolf' about 100 times too often.


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NBC poll today shows Christie skating through this faux crisis.


Time will tell but as of now (as predicted) big ho hum. Commence your wailing and gnashing of teeth.



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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/15/2014 5:07:11 PM   
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NBC poll today shows Christie skating through this faux crisis.


Time will tell but as of now (as predicted) big ho hum. Commence your wailing and gnashing of teeth.

LOL. Are you unable to read?
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/15/22316680-poll-christie-cruising-through-bridge-scandal-so-far?lite
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Despite those numbers, Christie has lost ground to Hillary Clinton in an early hypothetical presidential match up. In this current poll, he trails Clinton by 13 points, 50 percent to 37 percent among nationwide voters.

But in the same poll a month ago, Clinton’s lead was a mere three points, 48 percent to 45 percent.

And that cratering of his support nationally comes before the months of hearings and trials of underlings in this scandal and cover up.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/16/2014 5:18:59 AM   
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One thing I wonder about while reading this story (and thinking on previous visits to that area of the country), for a city which is built mostly on islands, they obviously have to depend on bridges and tunnels for their commerce and very survival. Yet this story seems to point up the fact that they need more bridges. Maybe they should make that a higher priority.

I heard that one reason the George Washington Bridge has such heavy traffic is because a lot of people are afraid to cross the Tappen Zee Bridge further north, as it's in pretty bad shape, from what I've read. Ever since that bridge collapse in Minnesota several years ago, I've always been a bit leery about the safety of bridges.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/16/2014 5:47:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Tappan Zee does not actually get you from New Jersey into Manhattan. It crosses the Hudson farther upstream and gets you from South Nyack to Westchester county. IIRC the only direct road connections between Manhattan and Jersey are the GW bridge, the Holland and Lincoln tunnels.

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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/16/2014 6:17:56 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/08/new-jersey-lane-closures_n_4564480.html


New Jersey Lane Closures Delayed Emergency Response To 91-Year-Old Woman Who Later Died: Report




http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/chris-christie-bridge-lane-closure-slowed-search-missing-child


Christie Administration's Bridge Lane Closure Slowed Search for Missing 4-Year-Old, Says Official







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RE: Bridge"gate" - 1/16/2014 2:33:04 PM   
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A pretty good article here. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368598/tale-two-scandals-john-fund/page/0/1

Despite a lack of direct tie to Christie, (liberal) media coverage 43x greater on the bridge incident vs the IRS
the fallout to Christie has been relatively minor.

a 10 pt change in preference between Clinton and Christie two years out is about as meaningless as they come.

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