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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What do you think about A&E's decision to shitcan Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty" for his (religious) views on homosexuality?
I think they're wrong, he has the right to his own opinion.
It's all about tolerance.
I wonder if Phil were a muslim, would they be so quick to condemn him?

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub



My thoughts are this. If the gay community wants to be accepted and allowed to live their lives (which I absolutely support 100%) they are going to have to allow those who live THEIR lives according to what they believe to do so too. Live and let live. Nothing Phil said should be a surprise, given the views he expresses all the time. A&E has proven to be politically correct cowards by making this move. I will never watch any show on that station again, even if they reverse this decision.

A politically correct cowared is someone who refuses to listen to bigoted bullshit...who knew?

And, while I will fight for the rights of my gay friends forever, the organizations that started this backlash by whining about someone having beliefs different from theirs may kiss my buttocks.

Would you also offer your buttocks to those who would be offended if your voting rights were to be revoked because of your gender?


I wish everyone who is associated with those organizations would get very vocal about leaving them because they discriminate.

Those in the naacp should leave because the organization disaproves of bigotry?

If they continue to support these organizations, they are proving that they do not want equality, they want special treatment, and that is not something I support now or ever will.

You are free to use all sorts of bigoted lexicon but why be surprised when someone points out that they will not tolerate that shit and they disassociate from you. Why accuse them of being bigots because they refuse to associate with bigots?
Wishing to be treated as an equal does not rise to your assertion of seeking "special treatment"

And this I put on my Facebook.

I honestly do not understand A&E suspending Phil is considered ok, because they are standing up for their beliefs but if a show suspended someone who came out as gay because of their beliefs, that would be wrong. You cannot have it both ways.


He signed a contract to do thus and such...he breached the contract and is being sanctioned for such.




< Message edited by thompsonx -- 12/20/2013 5:04:34 PM >

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Bingo, me too.
Last I checked there's no protected groups in the country, ..that you can't talk about.
We should do that "knockout" game on those evil "politically correct" assholes.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Bingo, me too.
Last I checked there's no protected groups in the country, ..that you can't talk about.
We should do that "knockout" game on those evil "politically correct" assholes.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What do you think about A&E's decision to shitcan Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty" for his (religious) views on homosexuality?
I think they're wrong, he has the right to his own opinion.
It's all about tolerance.
I wonder if Phil were a muslim, would they be so quick to condemn him?

Your buddy phill is free to run his fucking mouth as he chooses and a&e is free to fun their fucking station as they choose.
To engage in childish behaviour and then be astonished when it is pointed out is less than honest.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What do you think about A&E's decision to shitcan Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty" for his (religious) views on homosexuality?
I think they're wrong, he has the right to his own opinion.
It's all about tolerance.
I wonder if Phil were a muslim, would they be so quick to condemn him?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What do you think about A&E's decision to shitcan Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty" for his (religious) views on homosexuality?
I think they're wrong, he has the right to his own opinion.
It's all about tolerance.
I wonder if Phil were a muslim, would they be so quick to condemn him?

Lmfao....... Yep Robertsons obnoxious views were full of tolerance.

That said, I think you will find this is more a case of capitalism at its finest with the TV company protecting its product, more than being outraged at his comments.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What do you think about A&E's decision to shitcan Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty" for his (religious) views on homosexuality?
I think they're wrong, he has the right to his own opinion.
It's all about tolerance.
I wonder if Phil were a muslim, would they be so quick to condemn him?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Just a quick question, Popeye. Do you detect any irony at all announcing a block on EdBowie, in a thread where you are griping about the potential consequences of free speech?

(Not that I'm criticizing your decision - it was a punk slur he threw)

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ORIGINAL: joether

As two other posters stated, this is NOT a first amendment problem. The individual in question is free to say what he wants like any other US citizen. He was not pulled off the airwaves due to the government but by the company he signed a contract to. That contract states where his limits exist and among other things. He decided to exceed those limits in a public speech. A&E at first did not do anything, UNTIL the sponsors of not just the show by the entire network were threating to leave. A&E did what any other business would do when its about to lose customers: 'shit can' the moron into unemployment that created the problem(s). THEN, do damage control.

I found it amusing that notable Republicans Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Bobby Jindal, not to mention Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin all lashed out at A&E that it was a violation of this guy's 1st amendment rights. You have to wonder if any of these individuals have ever seriously studied the US Constitution.....

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Awwww... is somebody butt hurt

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Because flouncing away in a spew of insults, is such a cogent argument.

The man signed a contract. He knowingly breached the contract. He's not ignorant, he has a Master's degree and built a successful business from scratch, he knows what a contract means. Either he'll show the personal responsibility to accept the terms he agreed to, or he won't.

This was a non-story until you stirred the hate-mongering pot with nonsense spin about 'tolerance' and disinformation about freedom of speech being violated...
While StormFront pioneered those memes, it's entirely up to you as to how much personal responsibility you accept for your words.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Is anyone so uninformed about the basics of American citizenship that they truly don't understand that this has nothing to do with the Constitution and freedom of speech?

And that siding with bigotry isn't 'tolerance', it is complicity in intolerance?

Yes, if it was a Muslim actor in a reality show who had signed a contract to not say or do anything in public that would reflect badly on the show to it's advertisers, then I would expect the show to enforce the terms of the contract should that actor go public with their religious announcement e.g. that anyone who followed the Bible was a sinner.

Do you have any other tired old StormFront memes that you want debunked?

"Stormfront?"
Well, that's it for you, Cowgirl.
"BLOCK"

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Or if Sarah Palin happened to recall that MSNBC did, eventually, fire the guy who suggested someone should pin her down and shit in her mouth.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Just a quick question, Popeye. Do you detect any irony at all announcing a block on EdBowie, in a thread where you are griping about the potential consequences of free speech?

(Not that I'm criticizing your decision - it was a punk slur he threw)

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“My guess is that they [suspended Robertson] on the basis of a morality clause,” one entertainment attorney told TheWrap on Wednesday.

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A&E knew of Robertson's controversial views - expounded in videotaped sermons and elsewhere - before the show premiered in spring 2012, and warned him not to overshare on hot-button topics such as gay rights and race relations, according to a producer familiar with the situation. Phil and other family members also probably signed contracts containing "morals clauses" in which they promised to, among other things, avoid anything that would embarrass or bring shame to A&E or the brand. Such clauses are standard in the entertainment and sports industries.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Just for curiousity sake.. how do you know he violated a contract?