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People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 9:33:22 PM   
David92506


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I love reading the forums because I get a chance to share with others. I was hoping to create a thread where we can share how someone has harmed us leaving us shocked.

I'm a Chiropractor/Acupuncturist and I was treating a patient that goes to my church. She was starting her own business, in which she sends out gift packages, so her client doesn't have to go to a store, buy it and mail it. She wanted to barter with me so I did. For a whole year I sent out so many gift packages to my family, relatives, friends and business associates; close to $2,000! I kept a record of how much I owed her and each time she came in for a treatment I would deduct it from what I owed her.

After she used up what I owed her, she went to another Chiropractor. I asked her if she is doing bartering with her new Chiropractor and she said no she is paying cash. Well, I wanted to keep her as a patient and get cash payments. I asked her why did she switch?

She said that she really screwed me over. She tripled the price for each gift package she sent. For example, she charges $50 for each gift package but she charged me $150.00. And 3/4 of the packages she never sent. At the end of our conversation this Christian woman actually said to me, "I feel so bad fucking you over that I can't go back to you. That's why I'm seeing someone else." She then walked away.

I started calling my friends, family and business associates and I was shocked that most of them never received the gift package!

WHAT'S YOUR STORY :)
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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 9:50:50 PM   
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I'm curious.

You didn't think it was weird none of those people thanked you for the gifts? You never heard before this that so many didn't receive their presents?

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 10:28:10 PM   
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So basically you met this woman at church and decided to not check her background? And like reverencia said, you never bothered to ask those people if they ever received their packages before all of this? Maybe it's just me but after about a week, I would call my family and say "hey did you get that package I sent you?". Also, she never gave you the tracking numbers for the packages? That's just plain old common sense.

And yes, I've had people "screw me over" but I've always just figured it was my stupid fault for not doing my homework, shrugged it off and learned my lesson. Never felt a reason to announce it out loud.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 10:43:50 PM   
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Maybe you could try small claims court? Just a thought.



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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 10:52:14 PM   
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Maybe, the OP could get her on fraud charges? He said he kept a record of what he supposedly "owed" her, but did she give him any receipts, I wonder? Does he have any paperwork other than his own personal deductions to back up his claim?

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/25/2013 10:54:55 PM   
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That really is absurd, OP.

Who does not get a tracking number in this day and age?

And you didn't ask ANY of those recipients if they got your gifts?

Something is very wrong here.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 12:34:13 AM   
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I read 'fraud and theft of services' here.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 1:53:26 AM   
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I agree with the others here. she really saw you coming, and the fact that you have friends, and FAMILY who don't call to thank you for a gift would suggest that you are a walkover. I would never enter into a barter system these days without having everything in writing first, no matter how well I knew someone. also i'd have to make sure that it worked in my favour too, not just theirs. you obviously have access to a computer, but didn't bother to check her out, or see how much she charges for these packages?

as one of your friends, or family member I may also be a bit miffed that you care so little about me that you didn't even bother to spend enough time to choose my gift yourself. I get that people use these services, but you seriously can't be so busy that you can't spend a few moments to choose a gift for someone. had you done that you would have been aware of how much she was over charging you.

just may be it's that entire lack of thought, and care that got you ripped off in the first place. also the reason why the people you sent the gifts to didn't bother to thank you, and you found nothing strange about that.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 3:53:11 AM   
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OP - it wouldn't occur to me that she wouldn't follow through with her declared intentions. Cudos to you for not beating the shit out of her.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:03:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: David92506

I love reading the forums because I get a chance to share with others. I was hoping to create a thread where we can share how someone has harmed us leaving us shocked.

I'm a Chiropractor/Acupuncturist and I was treating a patient that goes to my church. She was starting her own business, in which she sends out gift packages, so her client doesn't have to go to a store, buy it and mail it. She wanted to barter with me so I did. For a whole year I sent out so many gift packages to my family, relatives, friends and business associates; close to $2,000! I kept a record of how much I owed her and each time she came in for a treatment I would deduct it from what I owed her.

After she used up what I owed her, she went to another Chiropractor. I asked her if she is doing bartering with her new Chiropractor and she said no she is paying cash. Well, I wanted to keep her as a patient and get cash payments. I asked her why did she switch?

She said that she really screwed me over. She tripled the price for each gift package she sent. For example, she charges $50 for each gift package but she charged me $150.00. And 3/4 of the packages she never sent. At the end of our conversation this Christian woman actually said to me, "I feel so bad fucking you over that I can't go back to you. That's why I'm seeing someone else." She then walked away.

I started calling my friends, family and business associates and I was shocked that most of them never received the gift package!

WHAT'S YOUR STORY :)

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:09:38 AM   
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I think most of us are guilty of trusting the wrong person one time or another.

As my grandmother used to say 'she seemed like such a nice girl'!

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:15:22 AM   
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quote:

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OP - it wouldn't occur to me that she wouldn't follow through with her declared intentions. Cudos to you for not beating the shit out of her.


Me too.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:27:37 AM   
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quote:

You didn't think it was weird none of those people thanked you for the gifts? You never heard before this that so many didn't receive their presents?


Ya, I ask my man how his mom likes the cookies I sent home, lol.

David92506 - I think you should take her to court. You could start by telling her that you are going to file a small claims case against her unless she makes good. Do this in writing.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:41:44 AM   
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quote:

I was hoping to create a thread where we can share how someone has harmed us leaving us shocked.


My ex bf and I broke up in April 2012. We had separate bedrooms, and were living together peacefully. I told him that I was going to move out when I found a job. I got one October 4, and told him I was looking for a new place. A few weeks later, he started being a real dickhead. I won't go into details, but it was really surprising, because we'd never fought before then.

After initially telling me he was going to keep the place, he moved out early, giving me one day's notice, and shafting me with the last month's rent, which was not a surprise, as he had clearly telegraphed his lack of financial responsibility.

I did attempt to file a small claims case against him, but found out the court near me does not have jurisdiction and after weighing all the time I would miss from work between filing and the court appearance, decided to not bother.

After four years of monthly payments, my boyfriend before that has finished paying me all the money he owed me, which did shock me, but in a pleasant way, off course :)

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:47:55 AM   
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OP, I think I'll pass on the 'somebody did wrong' contribution. However, I have to admit I'm thinking along the lines that some of the other folks shared. One or two people that didn't thank you for a gift out of a whole bunch, I might see. Three quarters that wouldn't send an email or call to say thanks? I think I'd find that odd, if nothing else.

I am sorry you got taken for such a ride.


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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 7:59:53 AM   
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This event happened to me over 5 years ago. This thread wasn't meant to "fix" anything but rather to share stories of what happened to us. There is no edit button where I can write this on the original post.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 9:11:57 AM   
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FR -

Even if this happened more recently, and even though as described this is a form of theft, proving the deception in small claims or any other type of court could prove difficult. It would probably come down to the business records of the OP and the manner in which he listed her "payments" for the treatments he gave her.

He would have to have included the value of those treatments in the declaration of his business income and paid the appropriate resulting income tax.
If he did, the payment for each event would have to listed as a "trade" or "payment in kind," rather than as a payment by cash, check, etc.
If he did not, I think he would be out of luck at recovering anything in court because he would have nothing to prove that any of the transactions ever actually happened.


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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 10:00:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: David92506

This event happened to me over 5 years ago. This thread wasn't meant to "fix" anything but rather to share stories of what happened to us. There is no edit button where I can write this on the original post.


I try not to focus on the negative things that happen to me. I try not to let people live rent free in my head. Especially five years later.




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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 10:24:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: David92506

There is no edit button where I can write this on the original post.


CollarChat allows one hour from the time of original posting to edit, after that it might as well be written in stone.

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RE: People Who Have Done You Wrong Leaving You In Shock - 12/26/2013 11:29:10 AM   
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every time someone has left me it has been well-deserved and has followed abundant warnings!

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