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Takecharge13 -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/16/2014 10:25:39 AM)

This is an interesting discussion and kind of a revelation to me as far as women who didn't enjoy someone going down on them.
As far as face sitting. During vanilla sex I have suggested or guided several girlfriends to sit on my face and my sense was they all had a more enjoyable orgasm. I thought that being a little bit in control, being able to position their vagina just right and the ability to put the right amount of pressure on their vagina was exciting to them. I enjoy my partner getting very excited and getting a little carried away which is possible with face sitting.

A word to you women as far as oral sex and I guess its a matter of visual likes but there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.



AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/16/2014 11:37:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Takecharge13

This is an interesting discussion and kind of a revelation to me as far as women who didn't enjoy someone going down on them.
As far as face sitting. During vanilla sex I have suggested or guided several girlfriends to sit on my face and my sense was they all had a more enjoyable orgasm. I thought that being a little bit in control, being able to position their vagina just right and the ability to put the right amount of pressure on their vagina was exciting to them. I enjoy my partner getting very excited and getting a little carried away which is possible with face sitting.

A word to you women as far as oral sex and I guess its a matter of visual likes but there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.


This sort of statement is one of the reasons some women don't like oral sex. You basically said that some vaginas are ugly and don't deserve to get oral. A lot of women carry that round as a major insecurity.



FieryOpal -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/16/2014 7:32:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

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ORIGINAL: Takecharge13

This is an interesting discussion and kind of a revelation to me as far as women who didn't enjoy someone going down on them.
As far as face sitting. During vanilla sex I have suggested or guided several girlfriends to sit on my face and my sense was they all had a more enjoyable orgasm. I thought that being a little bit in control, being able to position their vagina just right and the ability to put the right amount of pressure on their vagina was exciting to them. I enjoy my partner getting very excited and getting a little carried away which is possible with face sitting.

A word to you women as far as oral sex and I guess its a matter of visual likes but there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.


This sort of statement is one of the reasons some women don't like oral sex. You basically said that some vaginas are ugly and don't deserve to get oral. A lot of women carry that round as a major insecurity.

Gee, are you going to Baskin-Robbins us on a critique of all 31 flavors next? Perhaps broken down by demographic? [8|]



dollenburg -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/17/2014 10:45:06 PM)

This face sitting position isn't all that uncomfortable (http://www.drtuber.com/video/85189/sexy-ebony-lesbians-facesitting)



Ilyrium -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/19/2014 5:59:37 AM)


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This sort of statement is one of the reasons some women don't like oral sex. You basically said that some vaginas are ugly and don't deserve to get oral. A lot of women carry that round as a major insecurity.


I can understand that, as I too, when I was in my teens, thought the genitalia too dirty to put my mouth on (although my first girlfriend disabused me of that notion after a month or two of persuasion, with willing examples of blowjobs by way of persuasion).

Along the same vein, I've read here that women don't actually like looking at cock shots, which, at first, was surprising to me (I'm constantly trying to learn though), because, at this point in my life, not only is every delectable pussy different, but, each set of lips on the same kitty is delightfully different.

I could stare at a pussy, close up, with my nose in the flesh, for hours, and *never* ever get bored. Of course, it's a combination of factors that makes each and every vagina so lusciously different - from the fragrant bouquet, to the exquisite taste, to the various types of orgasmic wetness, and on.

In fact, if it's true that you should 'do what you love, the money will follow', I should offer to lick every lady in the Silicon Valley for hours at a time, and then have them shoo me away, I love it so much now.



shiftyw -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/19/2014 7:00:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


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ORIGINAL: Takecharge13

This is an interesting discussion and kind of a revelation to me as far as women who didn't enjoy someone going down on them.
As far as face sitting. During vanilla sex I have suggested or guided several girlfriends to sit on my face and my sense was they all had a more enjoyable orgasm. I thought that being a little bit in control, being able to position their vagina just right and the ability to put the right amount of pressure on their vagina was exciting to them. I enjoy my partner getting very excited and getting a little carried away which is possible with face sitting.

A word to you women as far as oral sex and I guess its a matter of visual likes but there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.


This sort of statement is one of the reasons some women don't like oral sex. You basically said that some vaginas are ugly and don't deserve to get oral. A lot of women carry that round as a major insecurity.


Yup. I don't like oral because it makes me self conscious. I never know what to do with my hands/body while a guy is trying to prove to me he is 'the best at it' and despite having never cum from it...this time he thinks I will...then he gets all butthurt when I don't and on more than one occasion people have blamed my vagina for it. Now receiving oral is just this side of a hard limit for me.



tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/19/2014 8:09:47 PM)

I have no problems with women (I am one, after all) who dislike or don't feel comfortable getting oral. I happen to love it, but that's just me.

Where my problem lies is with the men who want/expect untold blow jobs and aren't willing to reciprocate. I also very much dislike that some expect baby soft smoothness and aren't willing to take the weed whacker to their own fully grown prickly brush. Sorry guys (those who do this), I prefer to use actual dental floss to clean my teeth.

And don't even pull the "it's not manly" card, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. As well as showing some basic manners, if asked. If the guys wherever laugh at you, then man up & don't let it bother you. You have your big boy pants on don't you?!?



PeonForHer -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/20/2014 4:48:27 AM)

FR

This topic reminds me of an epiphany I once had when a femdom friend of mine was railing against the idea of 'forced face sitting'. 'How low do you think a woman would feel', she said, 'that she has to *force* someone to lick her vagina?'

Some males - especially sub males, I'd guess - wouldn't think in those terms at all. They'd take it as self-evident that men are attracted to the vaginas of women who, overall, are attractive to them . . . and they assume that such women will *know* this. Further, the fantasy femdom for submales never questions that every part of her is powerful, because of its attractiveness to him (amongst other things) . . . and, again, he'll assume that she knows that. Most of all, it will never occur to said femdom to ask for his approval of (any part of) her body. So, being 'forced' to lick her vagina is just the extra sub-buzz that sub-males want.

The bottom line is that I'd suspect that males generally don't quite get how sensitive women can be about the attractiveness of their vaginas.



Pyramus -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/20/2014 6:51:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear
men who ... aren't willing to reciprocate ... and aren't willing to take the weed whacker to their own ... brush.


I have to assume everyone is different, but, as for me, I feel guilty when I get a bj and I don't reciprocate. Usually in the same lovemaking session, but certainly in the prior or next. But, I think my personality profile is just that way. Win:win. What's pleasure for the goose is also pleasant for the gander.

Likewise with trimming the brush. I find it easily done, while in the daily shower, just sending a razor down there, up, and along the bark, and then around the roots, and even around the back a bit.

It even feels shamelessly sexy to shave, as, well, any attention is good attention I guess. :)



littlewonder -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/20/2014 9:29:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

I have no problems with women (I am one, after all) who dislike or don't feel comfortable getting oral. I happen to love it, but that's just me.

Where my problem lies is with the men who want/expect untold blow jobs and aren't willing to reciprocate. I also very much dislike that some expect baby soft smoothness and aren't willing to take the weed whacker to their own fully grown prickly brush. Sorry guys (those who do this), I prefer to use actual dental floss to clean my teeth.

And don't even pull the "it's not manly" card, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. As well as showing some basic manners, if asked. If the guys wherever laugh at you, then man up & don't let it bother you. You have your big boy pants on don't you?!?


As Master reminds me, "This is not a democracy". So I don't expect him to shave or reciprocate. He may not go down on me but he reciprocates in many other ways that are even better.



Ilyrium -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/20/2014 4:04:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
"This is not a democracy".


On that point, I must agree. I, for one, live to provide pleasure, and then, I disappear, having served my purpose. Until I'm needed again. It's a one-way street when it comes to service (although two ways for pleasure derived).



tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/20/2014 4:52:37 PM)

As long as you're getting pleasure, even in other ways, that's fine. Different strokes for different folks. I meant no insult to anyone.

And it's also sexy as hell to have your partner shave you. I did it years ago to my first Dom, although he was kinda worried at first, that soon went out the window. [;)]



Lucienne -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 4:50:27 PM)

Face sitting is pretty awesome and something it didn't occur to me to try until I'd spent some time on these boards. I'd never had a guy request it and the idea itself seemed to carry more concern about smothering than I was interested in. But after reading about guys really enjoying it, I spent about 30 seconds on some amateur porn site checking out different, um, angles of approach? Found one that looked comfortable, tried it on the next sub guy I had. Amazing. Although I don't really "sit" as much as ride his chin and mouth. The closest thing I have to a criticism of it is that I almost orgasm too quickly. In my experience, even vanilla guys love the experience and (because?) it doesn't really require much technique on their part. They get the "I love having my mouth on pussy!" experience without the performance anxiety and this leaves them grinning like fools. At this point, I wouldn't feel self conscious asking a guy if I could sit on his face as long as he showed any enthusiasm for oral.



Rawni -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 4:57:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
"This is not a democracy".


On that point, I must agree. I, for one, live to provide pleasure, and then, I disappear, having served my purpose. Until I'm needed again. It's a one-way street when it comes to service (although two ways for pleasure derived).



How would you know? I mean really... you have never served a dominant woman. That disappearing act is pure fantasy... as well as being of use tongue wise. One way street? Yeah... I guess it is.



kalikshama -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 5:26:48 PM)

Ilyrium - where did you get the idea that women are clamoring to receive drive-by sexual servicing?



Rawni -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 5:27:17 PM)

Femdom art.



ResidentSadist -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 6:46:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
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ORIGINAL: Takecharge13
This is an interesting discussion and kind of a revelation to me as far as women who didn't enjoy someone going down on them.
As far as face sitting. During vanilla sex I have suggested or guided several girlfriends to sit on my face and my sense was they all had a more enjoyable orgasm. I thought that being a little bit in control, being able to position their vagina just right and the ability to put the right amount of pressure on their vagina was exciting to them. I enjoy my partner getting very excited and getting a little carried away which is possible with face sitting.

A word to you women as far as oral sex and I guess its a matter of visual likes but there are pussies that just look like they deserved kissed and licked and some not so much.

This sort of statement is one of the reasons some women don't like oral sex. You basically said that some vaginas are ugly and don't deserve to get oral. A lot of women carry that round as a major insecurity.

I take your posts with respect and sincerity. I hope you see my reply in the same light.

Fact is, some genitalia is not as attractive as others, male or female. I don't think he said he wouldn't lick what he sees as an ugly vagina or that a gnarly snatch doesn't deserve to get oral. If pussy were food, it would be like someone goes "dinning at the Y" when they are inspired but seeing a beautiful pussy makes them hungry and inspires some spontaneous lickage. I just don't see that as derogatory. For example, I really like ethnic women. In a crowd I am more inspired to approach an ethnic looking girl first. But that doesn't mean I won't fall so much in love with a white slave that I'll marry her. Which I did.

My mother was a professional artist. I inherited her eye for form and beauty. In the 60s I was trained in the arts. In the 70s I owned an OB-GYN facility and was part owner of 7 others. When I wasn't doing admin, I worked in those facilities as a lab tech and doctor's assistant doing smears and cryo. We saw 300 patients a week and I was face to face with 30 or more female genitalia a week for more than 6 years. 4 years ago I was also involved in the porn industry, photography, photo retouching, building websites and reviewing model portfolios for content. I have seen an enormous amount of pussy in my day. My artistic eye observed that some women are truly works of art and any part of her body can be beautiful . . . even her pussy.

I also understand a women's insecurities to some degree. My ex christy had a lot of cosmetic surgeries. Chin implant, breast implants, vaginal rejuvenation, tummy tuck, butt lift and a face lift. She made Hustler magazine, 2nd from centerfold, at age 68. Now christy isn't insecure. She is vain and she takes that vanity with a grain of salt. She didn't start having cosmetic surgery until her late 50s and with her new look she went into modeling. Wanna see what about 50 grand in cosmetic surgery looks like at 67 ChristyCougar at CollarMe more at FetLife (graphic content).

I saw the days when the media used to push big tits as a sexual icon and understand how that could inspire insecurity. The media still pushes fashion standards to create insecurity and bias in consumers and it saturates the public mind. What I don't see is hundreds of millions of dollars worth of mass media plastered around with bleached assholes and vaginal rejuvenation surgery being thrust on the public. Even the porn industry is a multi-branched tree with the bleached and trimmed "babes" facet only being a fraction of the market.

So I don't see how the fact I see some pussy as more artistically appealing or orally inspiring would make other women dislike oral sex? I don't see how you make that connection?


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FieryOpal -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 9:07:47 PM)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Fact is, some genitalia is not as attractive as others, male or female.


Taking an aesthetic approach is another thing and can work both ways. There are plenty of unattractive dicks that I wouldn't have anything to do with, I have to admit. A long time ago, I once went out with a guy who turned out to have the gnarliest-looking one I had ever seen in my life. It even had birthmarky purple splotches. Unfortunately, we were already undressed and in bed when I made my horrific discovery. He didn't have much else going for him either (yuppie poser). I said to myself, there's no way that thing is going anywhere near my pussy or my mouth. Yeah, I was too nice back then to kick him out in the middle of the night, semi-inebriated and with a 30-mile drive back on the highways. So I did a public service and prayed the condom would do the job. Let's just say after 18 months of celibacy, this was considered a bump in the road into another 18 months of celibacy, technically a 3-year stretch.

To tie back to your ex's plastic surgery, this is why I could never get with a plastic surgeon. I would immediately become self-conscious knowing the wheels in his head were spinning constantly about the numerous "improvements" he thought might be necessary or that I could use. Uh-uh. If the guy I'm with doesn't find my pussy the most beautiful, irresistibly desirable, the most delectably sweet one he's ever had in his life and can't get enough of it, then that's not gonna fly with me. There are some things you just can't fake, and I would know instantly if he didn't consider this so.



MistressDarkArt -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/22/2014 9:20:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rawni

Femdom art.


Aka porn contamination. [&:]

More on that subject here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4623240/mpage_1/tm.htm



Ilyrium -> RE: Why don't women ask for face sitting (as opposed to cunnilingus) more often (akin to fellatio)? (1/23/2014 6:20:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt
porn contamination. [&:]


Contaminated, yes.
Hopefully not ruined.

Like airing out musty underthings stored in the wrong places, I must keep an open mind, open to the fresh air and sunlit light of the ideas offered by those in the know.



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