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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

For all the big noting of Marsailles as a crime infested gang ruled city, the actual murder rates (according to the BBC) there are:
*up to Oct 13 2013; 15
* 2012: 24
* 2011 : 20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24380941

These figures appear to be for all murders, not just organised crime or drug related murders. I imagine these figures are petty low compared to many US cities. But hey, who ever let the facts get in the way of a bit of Muslim-bashing?

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

For all the big noting of Marsailles as a crime infested gang ruled city, the actual murder rates (according to the BBC) there are:
*up to Oct 13 2013; 15
* 2012: 24
* 2011 : 20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24380941

These figures appear to be for all murders, not just organised crime or drug related murders. I imagine these figures are petty low compared to many US cities. But hey, who ever let the facts get in the way of a bit of Muslim-bashing?

That's total murders? For the whole city? That is pretty low compared with a lot of US cities. Chicago had the highest number of murders in the US last year, at 500.

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ORIGINAL: CountrySong

One does not walk among grizzly bears without protection. One should not walk around Muslims without understanding the fundamentalists!

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/french-city-with-40-muslim-population-is-the-most-dangerous-city-in-europe/

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French City with 40% Muslim Population is the Most Dangerous City in Europe

The gritty Mediterranean port, France's second-largest city, was appointed the "cultural capital of Europe," a rotating European Union honor. City fathers launched beautification projects, created new tourism attractions and invited people from around the world to visit. A splendid stone esplanade was laid around the Old Port, peppered with novel sculpture, and a high-tech historical museum went up next to City Hall.

How did that work out?

The eruption has refocused attention on Marseille's long-standing reputation as a European drug-smuggling hub, a place where entire neighborhoods have slipped away from police control and fallen under the command of gangsters who earn millions importing and selling North African hashish and settle turf disputes with AK-47 assault rifles.

"Marseille is sick with its violence," Interior Minister Manuel Valls said.

Vowing to squash the drug trade and end the violence, Valls last week dispatched 250 paramilitary and other national police officers to reinforce the usual deployment of around 3,000. The night after they were deployed, with television cameras in tow, another body was found, burned to a crisp with a bullet in its charred skull, the execution method local traffickers call the "barbecue." The next day, two Turkish immigrants were shot and wounded, and a pair of youths driving by on a motor scooter opened fire with a pistol on a third man, wounding him in the legs.

Marseille doesn't have a violence problem. It has a Muslim immigrant problem.

More at the link dealing with No Go Zones and other issues in that particular AO.

But what solution is there to the "Muslim Problem" that doesn't culminate in a "Final Solution"?

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Marseille doesn't have a violence problem. It has a Muslim immigrant problem.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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Marseille doesn't have a violence problem. It has a Muslim immigrant problem.

The first step towards a solution to any problem is to correctly identify the problem. Most people posting here have identified the problem here as "Muslim-bashing" or Islamophobia, not the "Muslim immigrant problem" the OP claimed. As shown above, this view is supported by the relevant data.

This being the case, obviously the first step towards a solution is for Islamophobes to cease their campaign of incitement against Muslims, and for Islamophobia to be identified, combated and eradicated as the distasteful vicious racism it is.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/french-city-with-40-muslim-population-is-the-most-dangerous-city-in-europe/

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French City with 40% Muslim Population is the Most Dangerous City in Europe

The gritty Mediterranean port, France's second-largest city, was appointed the "cultural capital of Europe," a rotating European Union honor. City fathers launched beautification projects, created new tourism attractions and invited people from around the world to visit. A splendid stone esplanade was laid around the Old Port, peppered with novel sculpture, and a high-tech historical museum went up next to City Hall.

How did that work out?

The eruption has refocused attention on Marseille's long-standing reputation as a European drug-smuggling hub, a place where entire neighborhoods have slipped away from police control and fallen under the command of gangsters who earn millions importing and selling North African hashish and settle turf disputes with AK-47 assault rifles.

"Marseille is sick with its violence," Interior Minister Manuel Valls said.

Vowing to squash the drug trade and end the violence, Valls last week dispatched 250 paramilitary and other national police officers to reinforce the usual deployment of around 3,000. The night after they were deployed, with television cameras in tow, another body was found, burned to a crisp with a bullet in its charred skull, the execution method local traffickers call the "barbecue." The next day, two Turkish immigrants were shot and wounded, and a pair of youths driving by on a motor scooter opened fire with a pistol on a third man, wounding him in the legs.

Marseille doesn't have a violence problem. It has a Muslim immigrant problem.

More at the link dealing with No Go Zones and other issues in that particular AO.

But what solution is there to the "Muslim Problem" that doesn't culminate in a "Final Solution"?

Sounds like Miami in the 80's.


Of course, there were no muslims involved. the vast majority of the murderers/traffickers were Catholic.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Maybe the French will send in The Legion as they did in Algiers many years ago................Between The Legion, the SDECE and Les Barbouzes, there was no problem at all within a couple of months. The french version of the Pax Romani

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Maybe the French will send in The Legion as they did in Algiers many years ago................Between The Legion, the SDECE and Les Barbouzes, there was no problem at all within a couple of months. The french version of the Pax Romani

The first wave of muslims in Marseilles came over from Algeria before the French lost that colony, in fact.
I think the bulk of the SS deserters in the Legion had mostly been wiped out in French Indochina (as it was then) before the trouble in Algeria really got going properly, though.

(And, as eulero says, Marseilles has always been a shithole. Ports cities often are.)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux



Funny, how its ok to be a catholic hater - but not an Islamic hater.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Funny, how its ok to be a catholic hater - but not an Islamic hater.

Who said I hated Catholics?

I was simply pointing out that most of the Cocaine Cowboys of the 80's in Miami were Cuban and Columbian and primarily Catholic. Pure correlation.
They murdered people in the streets to eliminate the competition. They imported the drugs that poisoned our youth.
I was simply using an example of how ridiculous it is to blame a religion for the of a few dozen (or in the case of Miami a few thousand ) adherents and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: CountrySong

One does not walk among grizzly bears without protection. One should not walk around Muslims without understanding the fundamentalists!

An Islamophobic statement if ever I heard one. Do you actually know any Muslims, because like most Islamophobes on here, I actually doubt it.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

FR

The headline of the OP's article would be equally accurate with a bit of tweaking.

French City with 62% Christian Population is the Most Dangerous City in Europe

Now if we could just solve that "Christian Problem" . . .

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

For all the big noting of Marsailles as a crime infested gang ruled city, the actual murder rates (according to the BBC) there are:
*up to Oct 13 2013; 15
* 2012: 24
* 2011 : 20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24380941

These figures appear to be for all murders, not just organised crime or drug related murders. I imagine these figures are petty low compared to many US cities. But hey, who ever let the facts get in the way of a bit of Muslim-bashing?

That's total murders? For the whole city? That is pretty low compared with a lot of US cities. Chicago had the highest number of murders in the US last year, at 500.