What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC)

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jlf1961 -> What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 5:22:09 AM)
quote: 34 Officers At Nuclear Site May Have Cheated On Exams Already reeling from reports about alleged drug use by some officers in its nuclear missile corps and the alleged "drunken and inappropriate behavior" of that command's top general, the Air Force now has another scandal on its hands. Thirty-four nuclear launch officers at Malmstrom Air Force base in Montana have been suspended because they allegedly either cheated on a proficiency test or knew about cheating by others, NPR's Tom Bowman tells our Newscast Desk. Source First there was a drug ring exposed, and now this. When it was Strategic Air Command, these were the best the air force had to offer, so what happened?

servantforuse -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 5:56:10 AM)
Maybe it has something to do with the Commander in Chief ?

EdBowie -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 6:16:01 AM)
That's right, once again the evil mastermind Obama used his time machine to make sure that these druggies and cheats got into sensitive positions. [8\|] quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Maybe it has something to do with the Commander in Chief ?

jlf1961 -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 6:27:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Maybe it has something to do with the Commander in Chief ? Seriously? Let me guess, Obama is to blame for the ongoing volcanic activity in Hawaii? He was the reason for the freezing weather in December? What the fuck else non political do you want to blame on him? Yeah, he is a fucking moron, but since the rearrangement of Air Force commands in 1992, there has been problems with Air Combat Command. SAC was one of the most disciplined organizations in the military. My father was in SAC for part of his air force career. You could lose a rank grade for a minor screw up. Wing Commanders could lose their command for failing a Readiness Drill, which were never scheduled. Hell, SAC had the least turn over in the Air Force for most of its history. Men made careers out of SAC.

joether -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:13:38 AM)
Perhaps we should be asking the Joint Chiefs or those that handle US Defense in Congress. That seems to be more their area of responsibility.

TheHeretic -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 6:56:21 PM)
Maybe SAC was something special once upon a time, Jlf, but they sure the hell didn't impress me when I came home from overseas 25 years ago. My squadron was down nearly 15% on manpower when I reported in, due to a series of drug busts. I think it might be the lack of job satisfaction. They never actually get to do what they are trained for.

Phydeaux -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 6:59:20 PM)
There was a huge expose on this a few month back. Long shifts (like 4 days on then 8 off). And basically constantly ready to unleash destruction on the planet. But they also said people's attititude toward them had change - they were no longer the heroes of the cold war....

FellowSlave -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:02:15 PM)
It is a preparation for WW III. Loyal command structure is necessary.

thishereboi -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:02:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Maybe it has something to do with the Commander in Chief ? Most people learn the difference between right and wrong as kids. Unless you are suggesting that Obama raised the 34 little idiots I can't see how you can even remotely connect him to it.

TheHeretic -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:22:37 PM)
I'm going to disagree, Boi. Morale is easily affected by the view of the bottom that comes from the top, and we currently have a CIC that thinks because the military is prepared to die for their country, he can send them off to do that, while he tries to figure out what to do next. President Obama keeps right on sending troops to Afghanistan to fight battles he not only isn't interested in winning, but doesn't believe can be won.

FelineRanger -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:28:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I'm going to disagree, Boi. Morale is easily affected by the view of the bottom that comes from the top, and we currently have a CIC that thinks because the military is prepared to die for their country, he can send them off to do that, while he tries to figure out what to do next. President Obama keeps right on sending troops to Afghanistan to fight battles he not only isn't interested in winning, but doesn't believe can be won. Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job.

TheHeretic -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:37:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job. As did LBJ and Nixon. You go losing wars, military morale goes to hell. President Obama has been CIC for 5 years now. When are the libbies going to get it through their heads that blaming Bush just makes them look like pathetic children?

EdBowie -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 7:59:32 PM)
Have you tried going down to the local VFW and announcing that they are all a bunch of 'libbies'? quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job. As did LBJ and Nixon. You go losing wars, military morale goes to hell. President Obama has been CIC for 5 years now. When are the libbies going to get it through their heads that blaming Bush just makes them look like pathetic children?

Phydeaux -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 8:20:21 PM)
I'm wondering where you get your statement from heretics. I'm thinking some kind of aphasia.. quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Have you tried going down to the local VFW and announcing that they are all a bunch of 'libbies'? quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job. As did LBJ and Nixon. You go losing wars, military morale goes to hell. President Obama has been CIC for 5 years now. When are the libbies going to get it through their heads that blaming Bush just makes them look like pathetic children?

TheHeretic -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/16/2014 8:45:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Have you tried going down to the local VFW and announcing that they are all a bunch of 'libbies'? What the fuck are you talking about? I'd suggest reading for comprehension, rather than argumentation, but it seems the lights are on with nobody home on that anyway.

thishereboi -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/17/2014 4:55:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job. As did LBJ and Nixon. You go losing wars, military morale goes to hell. President Obama has been CIC for 5 years now. When are the libbies going to get it through their heads that blaming Bush just makes them look like pathetic children? Well I still see cracks about Reagon on here and he has been gone a lot longer than 5 years so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

Lucylastic -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/17/2014 5:23:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger Sure, blame the piss poor military performance on Obama. Because Bush did such a brilliant job. As did LBJ and Nixon. You go losing wars, military morale goes to hell. President Obama has been CIC for 5 years now. When are the libbies going to get it through their heads that blaming Bush just makes them look like pathetic children? maybe if some righties took responsibility for what put the country IN the mess, and about the aftermath of what was put into place back in 2000-2008..... ...oh hang on, who am I kidding LMAO ignoring your history dooms you to repeat it. Good luck LMAO

graceadieu -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/17/2014 7:03:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Have you tried going down to the local VFW and announcing that they are all a bunch of 'libbies'? What the fuck are you talking about? I'd suggest reading for comprehension, rather than argumentation, but it seems the lights are on with nobody home on that anyway. I think he means that a lot of veterans blame Bush for the Iraq war. Which jives with my anecdotal experience with people I've talked to.

mnottertail -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/17/2014 7:05:43 AM)
I don't find that misguided.

EdBowie -> RE: What the hell happened to Air Combat Command (formerly SAC) (1/17/2014 5:23:08 PM)
That's what I thought... another internet tough guy with the personal attacks, but nothing of substance. Snore. quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie Have you tried going down to the local VFW and announcing that they are all a bunch of 'libbies'? What the fuck are you talking about? I'd suggest reading for comprehension, rather than argumentation, but it seems the lights are on with nobody home on that anyway.

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