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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 7:49:20 AM

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Then we can talk about how the human body wasn't really designed to eat wheat, and the version of wheat out now is actually worse for us. People with wheat allergies/issues will gain weight from wheat.

Yep, hello. I figured this out a couple years ago by trial and error. I lost 30 pounds and am still losing gradually just from drastically reducing the amount of wheat I consume. Forget whole grains. I can have some plain, cheap white bread and it doesn't seem to bother me too bad. Rice cakes are now a staple in my diet, and I really don't mind them that much. They're good smeared with peanut butter :)

I was amazed at how much better I felt after 3 days of being totally wheat-free. And my big fat belly shrunk drastically, lol. It wasn't fat as much as it was just bloated up with gas and undigested wheat, ugh. All my old jeans that I could barely squeeze into now almost fall off me. I was even able to buy a smaller size, yay!

Being "sensitive" to wheat or having a wheat allergy isn't necessarily the same as having celiac disease. I eat a lot of gluten-free now even though I don't have to because I don't have celiac, I'm just sensitive to wheat and limit how much of it I eat. Sometimes I go days without any and I don't miss it at all. It's hard, though, because EVERYTHING has wheat in it.

I've also eliminated almost all processed food, anything boxed, except wheat-free crackers and cereal. I cook fresh most of the time, and I have found that the fast food I "treat" myself to maybe once a month doesn't seem like such a treat anymore, yuk. I've been so much healthier the past two years, it's amazing.

Good for you! That's great :)

I'm sensitive to wheat flour. Interestingly, I can tolerate Ezekiel bread, which is made from sprouted wheat berries. Since I met my man almost a year ago, I've been eating a lot more pasta and regular bread, and have gained 20 pounds.

I also spend less time at the gym when I'm in a relationship.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 7:51:43 AM

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I SO agree with Oside girl, even eating nothing but cereal and milk all day (touted to help in weight loss) isn't good for you because you're not really getting a balanced diet.
There is also the issue of food deserts, which actually do exist in this very country believe it or not.
Where healthy and affordable food is unattainable. So the issue is not how much, as OsideGirl said, but the quality.
Even simple transitions like brown rice instead of white, same for pasta and sugar can make a DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE.
Unfortunately we don't get this advice from our doctors (which we should) unless assigned a dietician.
Also there is such a HUGE ISSUE with people starving themselves to lose weight. DIETS ARE EVIL!!!!
Well not all, a balanced diet is sane, great for your body and eating 6 small meals throughout the day keeps your digestive system constantly working, under low pressure and increases metabolism.
Think of a parked car in winter as your stomach. If throughout the day you eat two large meals and having a lot of "not eating" time in between there is a higher chance of metabolic slowdown. So you're warming up the car everytime to get going as opposed to the engine already being warm and rearing to go. (Remember consistence)
When people do these extreme diets also, all it does it put your body in starvation mode where it CLINGS to the food desperately when you do finally eat for survival sake and you retain bodyfat that much faster.
It's like a metabolic shutdown almost.
So eating is good but people unfortunately because of work schedules, families and day to day stresses and distractions find it incredibly hard to stick to such a regimen without planning for "incidentals". Also in part, it is lack of knowledge of how and what to consume (not that we should obsess over it, I don't). 2000-2500 calorie diet is the rule of thumb most should follow, but consistence in quantities, eating times (your body has a schedule for these things) and a lack of knowledge about food and nutrition is really something I would blame on the practitioners who should be advising these individuals.

200 lbs overweight is extreme, but I bet you at some point that person tried some horrible diet like Atkins etc etc which makes carbs IMMEDIATELY convert to bodyfat should you ever dare allow it to pass your lips. Then you think, "oh no, carbs are the enemy!" But not the case, it is the LACK of carbs. Your body is starving for them and needs them for energy.
This is a really interesting topic and I'm glad it's helping people get a better scope of why X individual may be a certain way as I find sometimes we are oft far too judgemental of others without really knowing the circumstances surrounding why they are a particular way.
That said, if the men don't want the lovely BBWs I'll take em gladly. ;) Point em in my direction pretty please, haha. :)
My favorite diet format is 5:3:2 servings of protein:fat:carbs in that order but do I keep it? Not really, sometimes the 5: ends up being carbs and I don't freak out about it (important). :)

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:07:29 AM

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This thread is so apropos for me today. TWICE someone mentioned that my lack of "body pics" made them question "my size"

Ugh!!!!!

While I'm sure they were douchey about it, there's a reality underlying this. One reality of internet dating that I've discovered is this:

No pics - she's usually thin or athletic
Only face pics - she's usually heavy, or at least thinks she is (not always the same thing)
Only Myspace-angle selfies - obese 100% of the time

Only share what you're comfortable with, of course, especially to "the world in general." But if you're interested in flirting with a guy, it's worth knowing what profile-land looks to him.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:18:55 AM

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~ General reply to the thread ~

People tend to be motivated through support and acceptance, not shame. But accepting someone doesn't mean accepting their "fatness," it means accepting their humanity. "I know you're not perfect -- hell, I'm not perfect either -- but you're important and valuable because you're you." So shaming strangers on the internet, especially unsolicited, is unhelpful. Worse than unhelpful, really, because someone might decide to injure themselves because of what you said to them. (Like the OP -- it's either rant or eat a bowl of ice cream. And she probably doesn't always rant.)

So be nice to people. It improves their health.

All that said, there's a dangerous movement, especially online, called "Healthy at any Size." This thought-pattern is a lot like the televangelist faith healers of the 1980s, who became popular by convincing people that they would be healthy if they just wanted it enough, if they just believed enough, if they just had enough faith in Jesus, that arthritis and that stomach cancer would disappear. Well, they were liars, and people on Tumblr who say the morbidly obese can be just as healthy as anyone else are liars, too. Morbid obesity not only worsens arthritis, but also increases the risk of deadly illnesses, like diabetes and cancer. There's no getting around that, without deciding to ignore logic and science, which is why Healthy at any Size is a form of faith healing.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:23:04 AM

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I was diagnosed full celiac just under 3 years ago. I was getting sick and for the first time in my life I was putting on weight and had raised blood sugar levels which led to me having an over active Vagus nerve. That in turn stopped my lungs working properly and three times I was admitted into hospital as a medical emergency.

All of that was down to the food I was eating. I was always a big bread eater and I baked a lot using whole wheat flour. Up until getting ill, I had always been a little too skinny and eating what I wanted didn't make any difference, therefore I ate what I liked, all the while building up poisons in my body that would eventually put my health in imminent danger.

Lots of people in the western world have decided to give up glutens or wheat through personal choice. They have educated themselves about what these foods can do to our system and what happens when it all goes wrong. The wheat of today isn't the same wheat your grandmother used in her baking. Modern day wheat has been scientifically engineered and now contains super gluten, super starch and additives that are so addictive that 'food addiction' is now a very real thing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

The crazy thing is, people don't have to eat any more than their ancestors ate to gain weight because scientifically engineered wheat is so much more fattening, unlike its natural ancestor. The chances are though, you do eat more carbs because wheat is in virtually everything on your supermarket shelves and the more you eat modern day wheat the more you crave it.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:30:06 AM

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The crazy thing is, people don't have to eat any more than their ancestors ate to gain weight because scientifically engineered wheat is so much more fattening, unlike its natural ancestor.

While I agree with your post, there's another factor: our ancestors were more physically active, on average, because they had to be. Medications and diet can cause weight gain, but if someone isn't drinking unless they draw water from a well, or isn't wearing clean clothes unless they wash those clothes with a washboard, the weight gain won't be as significant as what we are seeing now. The lifestyle required to survive today is much more sedentary than at any previous time in history, which is part of why we are seeing an epidemic that never previously existed in history.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:44:58 AM

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The crazy thing is, people don't have to eat any more than their ancestors ate to gain weight because scientifically engineered wheat is so much more fattening, unlike its natural ancestor.

While I agree with your post, there's another factor: our ancestors were more physically active, on average, because they had to be. Medications and diet can cause weight gain, but if someone isn't drinking unless they draw water from a well, or isn't wearing clean clothes unless they wash those clothes with a washboard, the weight gain won't be as significant as what we are seeing now. The lifestyle required to survive today is much more sedentary than at any previous time in history, which is part of why we are seeing an epidemic that never previously existed in history.

Totally agree. The whole thing is accumulative.

I will add though, people who eat a lot of carbs will have a tendency to feel lazy. They say, never eat carbs before an exam because your brain will become foggy and never eat carbs when you intend doing anything energetic within the next few hours, because you will probably change your mind!

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 8:55:53 AM

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I definitely agree MariaB, though I will add a fast sugar like eating an apple before an exam or a workout regimen is something I DO encourage because your body isn't working as hard to break down the sugars one will find in complex carbs and they give you that ZING of energy you need to get through that (usually) hour long exercise. Complex carbs (along with other food groups) should be eaten POST workout/exam/strenuous activity to help your body recover from the intense caloric burn (even thinking burns calories). :)

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/21/2014 6:55:11 PM

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Yep, hello. I figured this out a couple years ago by trial and error. I lost 30 pounds and am still losing gradually just from drastically reducing the amount of wheat I consume.

Wow! How long did losing 30lbs take? I am 140lbs now, and I need to be 110lbs for my short height of 5'4 to be healthy.
Although I have cut my carbo intake and been focusing on meat and vegetables, as well as I do interval trainings and long distance skate and hikes, I know I burn about 3000 calories from exercise every week and all the stair climbing at hikes has really shaped my butt to bums of steel but I am not losing a single pound at all and it's been nearly a year and am in despair. All I see is more muscles growing from work outs and getting firmer, but not slimmer! I purposely am doing more half marathon distances for my hikes, and it's on a interval, walk/run pace to burn more calories, because I want the slim lean marathon physique, but it's not working.

The only time I ever managed to lose weight was living on one cup of yogurt a day for a month, and I lost 10lbs. But that was an extremely difficult diet to keep up for long term, although it works.

Oh damn, I forgot I am chinese, rice is not wheat! I don't have wheat in my diet anyway! I don't eat bread. I eat 3 table spoons of rice maybe for each meal, stir fry green leafy veges like brocolli or spinach, which are my favourites, and lots of chicken and fish. So the wheat thing probably is not working for me. I don't even eat red meat because I don't like the taste of it.

The 30 lbs. have come off very gradually, there was no drastic or fast weight loss. I just felt better right away, and even better as time went on minus the wheat. I didn't realize I was losing weight because I rarely get on the scales. I just noticed that my clothes were getting looser, and I started trying on things I had that were too small and they fit. And then they started getting looser. (I love that feeling, lol) So, I'd say the 30 came off in a year or so. I've plateaued the past 6 or 8 months, maybe go up and then down a couple pounds. And I was laid off for a couple months over the holidays, so I was kind of couch-potatoey. I'm back to work now, so I'm be-bopping around again and expect to lose some more.

I advise you, especially if you are the athletic type and have a muscular athletic build, not to try to lose "weight" because muscle is heavy. Gaining muscle ADDS weight, it doesn't take it away. Think about it....if your muscles keep getting bigger, how can you get slimmer??? I don't think 140 pounds for an athletic, 5'4" woman is unhealthy, not by any means.

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