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SylvereApLeanan -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 6:54:51 PM)

LL, LGH still can't spell or form coherent sentences half the time. I don't know what improvement you think you see, but I've been here since 2007 and I haven't seen any. I think you're fooling yourself, but that's just my opinion.

In any case, I know that income any income has to be reported if you're on disability because my mother is on disability. She can work up to a certain number of hours (25?) without losing any of her disability, but she still has to report. She also has to report James' income since they are living together and sharing expenses. So don't tell me LGH doesn't have to report or that she isn't committing fraud, because I know that's not true. If you're so well-versed in the legal field, you should know better. If you don't know better, then I question your credentials as well as your motivation.

LGH should be looking into programs that help people with disabilities find work. I know these exist not only because of my mother but also because I've worked with people who used such agencies. A former coworker was mentally handicapped and was still able to do simple data entry in an office setting. LGH most certainly could do something like that, since she can manage to type well enough to spend all day on a message board, but she won't. Instead, she would rather come up with half-baked schemes to collect and resell used tires or some other cockamamie thing. So no, I have zero sympathy for that, especially when she's been told time and again that there are services specifically for people like her to learn marketable skills and become more independent.

And yes, you do coddle and enable her when you defend her by bitching out new members who question her story or criticize her poor decisions, especially when you, yourself, are now saying the exact same things as Inmate did. What the actual fuck? It's so hypocritical I can't even.




angelikaJ -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 6:57:55 PM)

FR:
I am someone who collects SSDI.
And I work part time, in a job that is fairly physical.

I am not defrauding anyone.
There is a ticket to work program, and last year I earned so little I got back all the taxes I paid in at the end of the year.

The assertion that one is committing fraud if one is able to do unskilled labor is just silly.
For LGH to be able to work on a regular basis she would have to be able to have some control over her mental illness and the ability to deal with her mood instability.
Currently she does not have that ability.

If she worked with a job coach she might be able to begin working part time.
But sadly, there just don't seem to be many services available for someone in her situation.
I think her IQ is too high for her to qualify for ARC-type services and that leaves her in a pretty big crack to get out of.

According to the CA state website info, she is supposed to have a case manager, and yet when she has asked about it was told they don't do that.
She has tried to get plugged into services that could help her and there just don't seem to be any.




SeekingTrinity -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 7:51:09 PM)

~FRing it~

The deal with Social Security though is that all...ALL...income has...HAS...to be reported. It doesn't say to report it when you make over a certain amount. All of it has to be reported. Where the amount made comes into play is when the month's benefits are set to be distributed. If it's under a certain amount, Social Security will not reduce benefit amount. When it is above the limit, Social Security reduces that amount. But that's on Social Security to determine. It's not on the benefit recipient to decide when they have to report, otherwise people would just not bother reporting anything because they don't think they made enough.

This is in no way an attack for/against. I frankly have no doubts at all the SSI is completely warranted. Not my place to question that either. Its not fraud that benefits are being received. But it enters fraud territory when not reporting the things that need to be reported to Social Security because it becomes an obligation on the part of the person receiving benefits to report this stuff.

It's just a caution and a warning since this stuff is being put out there for anyone, including a fraud investigator, to eventually read if it ever came to that. And with talk of a lawsuit, Id be really really careful with what is getting put out there on the Internet. It's far better to be safe than sorry later on, right? I got the following link from the Social Security Administration website, which includes everything that has to be reported and how to do it. If LGH only has the people on this site to count on because she has no one else, we owe it to her to make sure she has the tools she needs so she doesn't get into a huge mess with Social Security. They can fine you or they can cut off your benefits completely for failure to report on time. I, for one would definitely hate to see anything bad happen because I think enough is already on the plate to deal with without that added headache.

What you need to know when you get Supplemental Security Income (SSI)






LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 8:20:19 PM)

Ok,if you're so smart, then tell me why i was given SSI based on the fact that I have diagnosed disabilities, and I can ist every single diagnosis i have and it's why i have SSI. I had a pych evaluation, i had testing and everything. and based on that they said i qualify for disablity. I am disabled legally because how else would i get medicare, something you have to prove you're disabled 65 and over or disabled to get.

I have a bad back, i fell off a horse in 20024 twice and it took 8 years to find out that i have a slipped disk. so when did you get a medical degree and become my dr to tell me there's nothing wrong in my body. my dr has told me i have spinal degeneration, arthritus a slipped disk a pinched nerve a bruised tailbone, and a whole host of other disabilities. i have bad knees bad ankles , i broke both my ankles when i was a kid, and i have bone spurs and arthritis in my ankles. this is all stuff i have over shared with people for years. it's common knowledge

My dr worte me a letter of proof, stating i am disabled and gravely injured for the DMV for a plackard, and for the disabled bus.

I get programs you have to medically prove you're disabled to get, i don't qualify for most jobs because I am to disabled to do them.

Put your money where you mouth is. do you want to see my medical papers. I will provide them to you. Ask me for them. I will go get letters and show you.

If not then stop spouting shit you don't know.

I believe in everything you're saying, it's been something i say for a long time the way our old people and disabled people are treated. i believe it's a shame the way our old or our sick and homeless are treated. if you'd pull your head out of your butt and actually get to know me you'll see I am a good person doing the best i can to help people. I go wrong here and there, but im not this bad person you're painting me to be
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ORIGINAL: inmate822210




This is blatantly angry, but coherent. However, the US government does not give papers disclosing the diagnosis leading to disability. In fact, you as the beneficiary could not call and even have that information given to you. Emotionally disturbed is not a medical diagnosis; nor is it a qualifying condition for disability.

Now the bipolar can be disabling, but you don't even exhibit that exclusively as per DSM criteria, so we're all basically listening to your crap with the alleged "proof" in your hand if we come to get it despite the fact that it doesn't actually exist. There is nothing physically wrong with you that confines you to a bed other than lethargy and perhaps avolition. Those are signs of a schizotypal disorder.




I think the key here is that you don't qualify to get most jobs (and that was paraphrased due to the fact that you don't have a ride). That is being unemployed, not disabled. In fact, everything here exhibits that you CAN work, but choose not to. It's actually illegal to volunteer as a disabled person technically, as it demonstrates behavior contradictory to that which you swore under an oath of perjury.

Actually, you've only said one truthful thing that is clear in all of your posts, "I'm severely emotionally disturbed." We could all empathize with that. Regardless, you seem to act above the law and are most ungrateful for the benefits which you receive. SSI means you never paid into SS, and you're getting this out of the nearly 42% taxes I had to pay on my former income; the same taxes most people on here pay. Now I can't speak for everyone, and granted I had to make a claim on SSDI, however... happy to pay my taxes. I realize that sounds incredibly self-serving at the moment, but I was always more socialistic. We should be taking care of our elderly, young and disabled (mentally and physically).

What is disturbing is the fact that you're displaying abilities with all of this that are not consistent with federal disability. That means the ability to perform unskilled labor. It seems you can do that, but don't want to listen to anyone (go figure from your postings). Lack of resources is a major reason why homeless people are homeless and not disabled. Being able to go door to door and proposing that you have a lawsuit demonstrate coherent thinking, regardless of the intellect behind it.

Nonetheless, what I've been saying since my first post regarding you is that you have resources that will cover inpatient medical care. You desperately need that to get all things sorted out. If it is bipolar alone, then the most severe delusional manifestations are present and it is most definitely not managed at the current status quo. That setting will also allow all medical conditions to be examined.











angelikaJ -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 9:43:32 PM)

LGH,

you could just hide him.





LafayetteLady -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 9:54:57 PM)

She does a lot better than when she started. I've been on this site in one incarnation or other since 04 or 05.

If you are so concerned she is committing fraud, why aren't you reporting her? Perhaps because regardless of all your snark, you are going to kick someone when they down!

Actually inmate has stated various diagnosis and stated the ones she has doesn't exist, all the while he has also made statements that indicate he may have commited his own fraud.

Yes, there should be programs too help her, but she doesn't have people who can go with her and help explain properly what she needs or fight to get them for her. Kalikshana and rawni, can both tell you what a battle it is to get someone with limited communication and disabilities to get. Honestly, if I were in her area, I would personally do it, as I do it in my state on a regular basis. However, I'm not nearby, and I don't know her area at all to even search for things.

I have given her the names of organizations we have in NJ that she can look for in her area as well as providing her with information on what to communicate to these organizations.

So please, since you are so aware of what is available in her are, why don't you post links? You admit she has limit capabilities, yet are callous enough to just snark rather than help.

The only stupid statement other than inmates over inflated ego and ill informed statement was Rule's who suggested she could eventually become a teacher.

If her posts annoy you so much, why bother to read her threads?




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 10:06:09 PM)

angelika, yeah. but these haters here today are actually giving me strength to get off my ass an get out of my own way cuz i have something to prove, not to them. to me.
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

LGH,

you could just hide him.







LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 10:13:28 PM)

I do very well when slow down and use my head. I type fast, i talk fast. I do not communicate clearly no. but you know the garbled mess I made when I didn't have spell check. Want proof? I'll stop spell checking my work and you will quickly see the garbled mess that my posts are.


If you can't see improvement it's on you SylvereAp, because plenty of other people do see improvement. My therapist being one. She says i have been more honest and played less games and done more work this week alone than she's ever seen me to do.



You wanna shout me down that what im doing is not working come to my house. go with me when I turn an entire dumpster full of what you said was worthless hazardous garbage into gold.


I've already proven all ya nay sayers wrong. in just 3 days with walking and some care before I got hurt I rescued and turned around more garbage you all shouted down as worthless and i am wasting my time. I took a car load of other people's worthless junk and got 10 bucks for it. so far I've made 20 bucks , and i have more offers of others "useless junk" and some is useless but i make it into something that you will ever have had.


If you spent half as much time using your head for positive as you do shouting down the faults of one person. you'd be amazed.

And yes I didn't report james living here because we don't make enough to have his piddly little income count against me. but GUESS WHAT I TOLD THEM HE IS LIVING WITH ME LAST YEAR AN THEY SAID FINE.
DON'T BELIEVE ME IT'S NOT MY JOB O CARE.


And yes I will report my earnings to SSI, and NO they won't care. because I'm not making enough to make a difference. I'm more honestly into this for the love and support and community I am finding by trying to help others. And you all can nay say all you want but i have proven these last 3 days i know what i am talking about an ya'll don;t. because I had a plan an i put it into action, I don't care if another one of you don't believe me your snark fuels my determination to prove to myself i can do it. AND I HAVE.
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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

LL, LGH still can't spell or form coherent sentences half the time. I don't know what improvement you think you see, but I've been here since 2007 and I haven't seen any. I think you're fooling yourself, but that's just my opinion.

In any case, I know that income any income has to be reported if you're on disability because my mother is on disability. She can work up to a certain number of hours (25?) without losing any of her disability, but she still has to report. She also has to report James' income since they are living together and sharing expenses. So don't tell me LGH doesn't have to report or that she isn't committing fraud, because I know that's not true. If you're so well-versed in the legal field, you should know better. If you don't know better, then I question your credentials as well as your motivation.

LGH should be looking into programs that help people with disabilities find work. I know these exist not only because of my mother but also because I've worked with people who used such agencies. A former coworker was mentally handicapped and was still able to do simple data entry in an office setting. LGH most certainly could do something like that, since she can manage to type well enough to spend all day on a message board, but she won't. Instead, she would rather come up with half-baked schemes to collect and resell used tires or some other cockamamie thing. So no, I have zero sympathy for that, especially when she's been told time and again that there are services specifically for people like her to learn marketable skills and become more independent.

And yes, you do coddle and enable her when you defend her by bitching out new members who question her story or criticize her poor decisions, especially when you, yourself, are now saying the exact same things as Inmate did. What the actual fuck? It's so hypocritical I can't even.






LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 10:40:58 PM)

YES. YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD HON. I don't and they loose patience with me and treat me like I am not a decent human being deserving of compassion and medical care like every one else. and THAT is why I am finally going after all these programs ive been accused of trying to gobble. I will not be victimized again that badly. I'm getting legal representation to go with me to dr's so they can not rail road me because I do not understand. I am carrying my disability papers with me I will politely cram them down the dr's throat and make him eat them. I never wanted to be a looket me looket me here's my papers treat me different person. but they picked the wrong woman to marginalize. their mistreatment has finally made me see i DESERVE PROGRAMS I AM QUALIFIED FOR. i have always refused to take them because I felt i was taking programs out of the mouths of more needier than I. when fuck I need them. if they were not in place for people like me to take and use, then they wouldn't be being offered. and I have been to polite to take programs, and no more.

It broke my heart to realize I was gonna have to be a card carying disability paper thumping bitch to get listened to, but it's made me stronger.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Inmate, how about if we point out that if you go through the rigors of medical school, you certainly don't qualify as disabled? I don't question that you went or that you learned something. However, I do know that you don't learn enogh oabout medical specialties like psychiatry to be spouting off the way you are. I also know that the Social Security Administration would question your disability if they knew you were able to attend medical school even if just for the sake of learning.

So tell me, how does that shoe feel on the other foot?

You are new, and really know nothing about LGH. She has been on this site for quite a while, and while her communicaton skills are still lacking, you are very unaware of the progress she HAS made. She could barely string two sentences together at the beginning. She suffered childhood trauma you couldn't even contemplate understanding with your limited education and total lack of real time experience with applying your knowledge from anywhere but the armchair.

Does SL make a valid point about the liklihood of co-morbidity and incomplete diagnosis? Definitely. LGH sadly does not have people in her life who have the knowledge or ability to help her. All she has in the way of intelligent help are the people on this board. She likely has no idea what title someone in a lab coat held, whether it is technician, radiologist , er doctor or social worker. She likely doesn't always fully understand what they tell her and has trouble communicating the questions many of us would naturally ask.

Can you imagine having not finished high school, having a borderline IQ and trying to understand let alone navigate through a system with no help from someone who understands and can help you navigate? I doubt you can. You have had the audacity to comment on advice given here and elsewhere and have even in one post talked about how giving advice without the proper license is illegal, yet you, with no license feel it is appropriate for you to do so.

Your comments to LGH WOULD in a court of law constitute medical advice. Oh and I do have necessary education and license to make such statments. Meanwhile, the couple of psych classes you took in med school in no way qualify you to even contemplate LGH's mental health status. Osidegirl, who is licensed, educated, trained and experienced in such thing knows to tread carefully in that regard and she know much more of LGH's history than you do.

So now that we have cleared up YOUR fraud commision with the federal government as well as your lack of credentials, perhaps , since you wish so much to try to help people and have time on your hands, you can research some programs in her area and advocate a little in her behalf.

I have talked with LGH quite a bit privately, and know a great deal about her situation. However, I am not in a location or have themeans to do more than I currently do. If you really want to help, learn how to decipher her communications (not too diificult) and offer contructive advice instead of accusations and critism.





LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 10:46:56 PM)



IS SHE EMOTIONALLY DISABLED OR MEDICALLY.


I AM BOTH, AND I KNOW MY RIGHTS TO WORK, AND IT'S NOT LIMITED TO HOURS, IT'S LIMITED TO INCOME. I CAN MAKE 100 DOLLARS A PAY CHECK BEFORE I GET REDUCTIONS.


HAND TO GOD, I GOT THAT STRAIT FROM THE SSI RIGHT TO WORK PROGRAM IN MY STATE

I talked to SSI people and I got right to work packets. I know what I am talkng about. at least partially. I may not know the whole picture but i understand it's 100 dollars a pay check then my check gets deducted.
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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

LL, LGH still can't spell or form coherent sentences half the time. I don't know what improvement you think you see, but I've been here since 2007 and I haven't seen any. I think you're fooling yourself, but that's just my opinion.

In any case, I know that income any income has to be reported if you're on disability because my mother is on disability. She can work up to a certain number of hours (25?) without losing any of her disability, but she still has to report. She also has to report James' income since they are living together and sharing expenses. So don't tell me LGH doesn't have to report or that she isn't committing fraud, because I know that's not true. If you're so well-versed in the legal field, you should know better. If you don't know better, then I question your credentials as well as your motivation.

LGH should be looking into programs that help people with disabilities find work. I know these exist not only because of my mother but also because I've worked with people who used such agencies. A former coworker was mentally handicapped and was still able to do simple data entry in an office setting. LGH most certainly could do something like that, since she can manage to type well enough to spend all day on a message board, but she won't. Instead, she would rather come up with half-baked schemes to collect and resell used tires or some other cockamamie thing. So no, I have zero sympathy for that, especially when she's been told time and again that there are services specifically for people like her to learn marketable skills and become more independent.

And yes, you do coddle and enable her when you defend her by bitching out new members who question her story or criticize her poor decisions, especially when you, yourself, are now saying the exact same things as Inmate did. What the actual fuck? It's so hypocritical I can't even.






LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 10:51:30 PM)

No. he's incredibly smart and has degrees and stuff but he is emotionally broken. and that is almost more crippling than being developmentally delayed, because for DD there's more help in place than for people who are so depressed and fucked up and what not, that they cant function. there's programs but when you're so depressed you can't function but to just go to work an that's it. it's all on you and nothing else to get the programs and depression sucks that will right out of you.
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

And her daddy it sounds like is just above developmentally delayed, enough to work but that's about it.





LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 11:01:52 PM)

our laptop caps lock key is broke an tricky. so forgive un intentional shouting. sometimes i am shouting but more often the keyboard is stuck.




Rule -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 11:05:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
No. he's incredibly smart and has degrees and stuff but he is emotionally broken. and that is almost more crippling than being developmentally delayed, because for DD there's more help in place than for people who are so depressed and fucked up and what not, that they cant function. there's programs but when you're so depressed you can't function but to just go to work an that's it. it's all on you and nothing else to get the programs and depression sucks that will right out of you.

I think that it may be best for your daddy to consult me - mainly about his issues - by cmail.




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 11:17:03 PM)

Can I too? I appreciate the help and support you've offered and I'd be more than happy to share my good news with you when i do not feel like being shouted down by those who love to argye. and maybe share a down and kicked in teeth moment in provate too.
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ORIGINAL: Rule

I think that it may be best for your daddy to consult me - mainly about his issues - by cmail.





LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/1/2014 11:21:20 PM)

inmate, we've all been saying me included, we know im not fine, and I am fighting to get help and being shouted down and marginalized by local dr's and programs. i was told litterally i can't be as disabled as i claim to be im not old enough to be. from a medical dr who had my medical files up right in front of him.

wanna know something? The night I went into the ER? I was willing to talk to someone because i do feel out of control and scred, but the moment the actions that happend that went south i wanted representation before talking to them cuz i was being rail roaded an i knew it.

You wanna know what i thought? i thought i had maybe some how broke my foot or something cuz i felt so great i did to much walking. there WAS injury and trauma preceeding the loos of sensation and going to ER. and there STILL IS. my foot still feels numb and at times i can't move it.
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ORIGINAL: inmate822210


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

inmate - you sure are giving out a lot of medical advice and armchair diagnoses in some of these current threads. If you are in fact a medical professional, I'm sure you know how foolish and potentially dangerous it is to diagnose the physical and mental health conditions of people you have never met based on a few message board posts.


Foolishness is being wrong. I've always cited that it's conjecture and not an official Dx. I've always attempted to point to the proper health care facilitators in respective regions. What seems more foolish is telling someone with a severe mental condition that they're fine, or telling someone with a clinical tachycardia that it's just about exercising. Blind conjecture from the choir is advice, but because of respective education one should simply let potential hazards go unchecked?

But people like you will get them in the right direction, right? So I digress--I'll retire.





Rule -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/2/2014 12:06:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
Can I too? I appreciate the help and support you've offered and I'd be more than happy to share my good news with you when i do not feel like being shouted down by those who love to argye. and maybe share a down and kicked in teeth moment in provate too.

LGH, your issues are complex: they are both medical and psychological.

I have my own thoughts about your chronic illness - but I may be wrong, and if I recall correctly according to you I am wrong.

I also work with my own model of the human mind and in this model you are a natural slave. Such a person requires a protector, someone to obey, someone who is in control. Your daddy appears to be unable to (though I suspect that he may be a responsible person; but that is not enough) - and you therefore are stuck into having to face the world on your own.

That you have brain damage is new to me. (I do not follow all of your posts and threads. I just look in now and again.) Since I do not know the nature of this brain damage, I cannot assess what it means for my interpretation of your mind.

You already seem to have a good contact with LafayetteLady, who is quite knowledgable about your situation and who seems competent. If only there was someone for you locally like her.

I am a foreigner and cannot take care of myself.

I do not know about you mailing me. I have enough on my plate already, mainly my own issues, and I fear that you would burden me and that I cannot supply what you need. You may mail me, but I do not promise anything.





ElectraGlide -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/4/2014 4:50:40 PM)

Scrap metal prices must be high, I hike at this one place that has been used as a illegal dump for years, I saw a guy in a van pulling all the scrap metal out of it one day. I thought that was nice to see that piece of woods getting cleaned up.




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/4/2014 4:54:58 PM)

yup:) actually no it's not i made 1.88 today but it's found money, if i work my connections right, i will have tons of stuff to give, and i am not out to get rich. i do it more for my health cuz i am walking when i do this, and i am helping the neighborhood and i make friends doing this.
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ORIGINAL: ElectraGlide

Scrap metal prices must be high, I hike at this one place that has been used as a illegal dump for years, I saw a guy in a van pulling all the scrap metal out of it one day. I thought that was nice to see that piece of woods getting cleaned up.





LittleGirlHeart -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/4/2014 5:28:42 PM)

when i say scrap, it's mostly small stuff but i get lucky every now and then and i find larger stuff. most the stuff i'll admit it's not worth much 30 cents,, 1.40 kind of stuff, but it all adds up and i am getting exercise walking about looking for it. when ican wa;l better that will be a great help.




SlaveOh -> RE: I thought up a way of helping me, the environment and other people and i can make a job out of it. (2/4/2014 7:45:29 PM)

LGH,

I hope things work out well for you. Sounds like you're having a tough time.

I will not assume to know you, talk down to you, or accuse you of being manic.

I don't have a lot of advice to offer, but I truly hope you start feeling better.




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