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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 1:41:46 PM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/christie-bridge.html?_r=0

Mr. Wildstein contests the accuracy of various statements that the governor made about him and he can prove the inaccuracy of some,” the letter added.

The letter marked the first signal that Mr. Christie may have been aware of the closings, something he repeatedly denied during thenews conference.




How the hell is he gonna get outta this one.
You can give him the benefit of the doubt or the walks like a duck etc etc,
shennanigansssssssssss





"Mr Wildstein contests the accuracy of some statements made by the Governor about him and can prove the inaccuracy of some"

I didn't see anything in the letter that stated he can prove the order to close the bridge came from Christie...only that "some" of the words Mr Christie said (about him....Mr Wildstein) were inaccurate.

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 4:00:29 PM   
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It only has to be shown that Christie knew of the bridge attack during the time his staff was attacking it.....


Him knowing (it was 4 frink`n days) and not doing anything to stop the 4 day long attack.....is the same thing as ordering it.....


The guy in charge of tunnel security is supposed to have a direct line to the gov. office.Most likely to the NSA as well.This is one of the most vital traffic arteries in the western hemisphere.Like air and sea ports,it is a national security level thing.


Christie nor his staff would take that guy`s call.....


Thinking about what rich whined about before.....


Is it the universe`s fault that crook-Christie got caught thuging, or is it the media`s?


A DNC anti-Christie advert to run during the super bowl..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5f-MS-vzOA


Devastating...


Just the fact that we can say these things and they`re arguable...just the fact that this is in the conversation means it`s toast time for Christie....

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 4:10:28 PM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/christie-bridge.html?_r=0
Mr. Wildstein contests the accuracy of various statements that the governor made about him and he can prove the inaccuracy of some,” the letter added.
The letter marked the first signal that Mr. Christie may have been aware of the closings, something he repeatedly denied during thenews conference.
How the hell is he gonna get outta this one.
You can give him the benefit of the doubt or the walks like a duck etc etc,
shennanigansssssssssss

"Mr Wildstein contests the accuracy of some statements made by the Governor about him and can prove the inaccuracy of some"
I didn't see anything in the letter that stated he can prove the order to close the bridge came from Christie...only that "some" of the words Mr Christie said (about him....Mr Wildstein) were inaccurate.


I highly doubt there will be proof that Christie sent the order, even if he did, in fact, send the order. Wildstein's claims, though, bring statements Christie made about the lane closures and the knowledge of them, into question. When Wildstein didn't toe the line, Christie made statements about Wildstein, which Wildstein claims he can prove inaccurate.


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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 4:40:17 PM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/christie-bridge.html?_r=0
Mr. Wildstein contests the accuracy of various statements that the governor made about him and he can prove the inaccuracy of some,” the letter added.
The letter marked the first signal that Mr. Christie may have been aware of the closings, something he repeatedly denied during thenews conference.
How the hell is he gonna get outta this one.
You can give him the benefit of the doubt or the walks like a duck etc etc,
shennanigansssssssssss

"Mr Wildstein contests the accuracy of some statements made by the Governor about him and can prove the inaccuracy of some"
I didn't see anything in the letter that stated he can prove the order to close the bridge came from Christie...only that "some" of the words Mr Christie said (about him....Mr Wildstein) were inaccurate.


I highly doubt there will be proof that Christie sent the order, even if he did, in fact, send the order. Wildstein's claims, though, bring statements Christie made about the lane closures and the knowledge of them, into question. When Wildstein didn't toe the line, Christie made statements about Wildstein, which Wildstein claims he can prove inaccurate.



"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

Frankly four days of traffic snarls compared to what happened with Nakoula Nakoula. . . and the deaths of diplomatic personal. . . really, the New Jersey Whale needs to work on his bullying. Fisking piker.

I am sure that some one is going to try and explain to me that New Jersey (the armpit of the US) politics are really different from Chicago politics.

This really looks like "Dog bites man" to me.

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 4:53:21 PM   
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Here`s a good sober explanation of how this was illegal and why it adds up to corruption.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrsOVZDRWQ


The way we know we`re getting under the republican`s skin.....is their attempt to talk about anything else other`s then their presidential front-runner`s corruption.....


The good news though,is a new poll replacing Christie as #1 with Sarah Palin......


New news....another staffer has resigned and another has taken the 5th.




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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/2/2014 5:05:39 PM   
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Killer....


"Chris Christie's Bridge Scandal Explained"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En_43F4ycLc


As for the arm pit comment....

I live in Morris Co. where farms,horse ranches and stone homesteads are common.Where Washington operated,successfully defeating a much bigger army.I mountain bike on the paths and trails they used and can ride for hours through the woods and never see a soul.....



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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/3/2014 2:53:46 PM   
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It's fascinating to me that no one caught the purposeful inaccuracies of my quote in my post which, by default shows that "some" of the words (I) said (about him....Mr Wildstein) were inaccurate."

Which only goes to show....words can be derived to say anything one wants them to say, moreover, cause others to believe a particular thing.

(It doesn't however, by default....make them true).


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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/3/2014 3:03:53 PM   
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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 6:20:05 AM   
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Here you go, Lucy. I doubt this update/Mea Culpa from the NYT will be making its way into any of your news feeds

http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/as-the-latest-christie-story-evolved-the-times-should-have-noted-a-change/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=2&


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But what about a case in which an early version of a story says something that proves to be, if not untrue, then at least overstated?
That happened at The Times on Friday. The reporter Kate Zernike broke a story based on a letter from David Wildstein’s lawyer saying that the former ally of Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey “had the evidence to prove” that Mr. Christie knew about the now infamous lane closings at the George Washington Bridge in real time last September. Mr. Christie has consistently stated that he only learned about them recently.
Later, within the hour, the story was changed to soften the wording from “had the evidence” to “evidence exists.” Breaking news alerts had gone out immediately after the first version was posted, which meant that many people read the initial article with its stronger wording.


And they finish on this note;

quote:

Some sort of notice was due to the reader that the initial story had changed in a substantial way.



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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 6:29:42 AM   
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...you are about three days late, thankfully I had nothing to do since then, so Ive been holding my breath...such a pretty shade of purple and no spittle either!!!
have a superb week


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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 6:46:30 AM   
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No, it's the NYT that was three days late, Lucy. I told you they were doing this, when the conversation was fresh.

Sorry you got suckered into being a tool. That happens when people set themselves up as service subs to the manipulative, deceitful, and uncaring.

Thanks for the good wishes, but it's shaping up to be a bitch of a week at the office.



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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 6:54:43 AM   
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oh dear gawd..call me a liar, I dont give a shit...and I hope your week....continues

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 2:39:33 PM   
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No, it's the NYT that was three days late, Lucy. I told you they were doing this, when the conversation was fresh.
Sorry you got suckered into being a tool. That happens when people set themselves up as service subs to the manipulative, deceitful, and uncaring.
Thanks for the good wishes, but it's shaping up to be a bitch of a week at the office.


"Got suckered"

You're so kind, Rich!


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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 9:12:35 PM   
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oh dear gawd..call me a liar, I dont give a shit...and I hope your week....continues


Some never grow up....


"How high school explains Chris Christie’s problems"


"At a nearly two-hour news conference, Christie notably distanced himself from Wildstein, disputing reports that the two of them were high school friends -- or close at all, really.

"You know, I was the class president and athlete," Christie said. "I don't know what David was doing during that period of time."

Ouch.


Christie then proceeded to denounce Wildstein in no uncertain terms, citing his "callous indifference" about the four-day traffic snarl in Fort Lee in e-mails and text messages turned over to investigators. Christie called Wildstein's conduct "over the top and outrageous."

Flash forward to Saturday, the day after Wildstein alleged that damning evidence against Christie exists.

The Christie team's response? Going back to high school.


In a lengthy background document distributed by the governor's office, it was noted that a 16-year-old Wildstein once "sued over a local school board election" and that his high school social studies teacher accused him of "deceptive behavior."

That's right, folks. Christie's office is seeking to discredit Wildstein using evidence ... from high school.

Regardless of whether you think that's below the belt -- and several folks on the Sunday shows seemed to think it was -- it's definitely bare-knuckle politics.

Now, Wildstein was never going to be Christie's ally in this whole matter. Everyone involved is in self-preservation mode, and for Wildstein, providing information about Christie could potentially help him personally -- something Christie's office noted Saturday.

But in these kinds of situations, there's a difference between throwing someone under a bus and running them over with that same bus based on information from high school.

In Wildstein, Christie's take-no-prisoners style has created a bitter enemy who now has an extra incentive to take him down.

Christie might have already thought that Wildstein was out to get him, and he might not think Wildstein has the goods to make it happen. But he has virtually assured that Wildstein is going to try."



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/02/03/how-high-school-explains-chris-christies-problems/



Did the wibawool media create Wildstein ?


Or did Chris Christie?




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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 9:23:06 PM   
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Christie`s HS coach calls BS on governor`s claim he doesn`t really know the guy Christie created a whole new job title for.



"I met David on the Tom Kean for governor campaign in 1977. He was a youth volunteer, and so was I. Really, after that time, I completely lost touch with David. We didn't travel in the same circles in high school. You know, I was the class president and athlete. I don't know what David was doing during that period of time…We went 23 years without seeing each other. And in the years we did see each other, we passed in the hallways.

In other words: David Wildstein, are you kidding me? Different lunch table, dudes.

Except, like so much in Christie’s explanation for what happened with the retaliatory lane closures, it may not be as simple as that. I recently spoke with Tony Hope, the former coach of the Livingston High baseball team, the Lancers. He recalled Christie’s years as the team’s catcher. He also recalled that David Wildstein was right there on the team with Christie:


http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116177/chris-christie-did-know-david-wildstein-high-school-coach


"David Wildstein was our baseball statistician. He was a very quiet, unassuming, brilliant kid. He’d do the baseball stats like you wouldn’t believe. He gave you the stats from the previous week’s games, he had a brilliant mind for numbers and figures….And he was doing it without any of the computers you have today. He’s doing it all with a calculator, none of the fancy technology…You know, averages against righthander and against lefthander, that sort of thing…He knew the game but he wasn’t at all a player. I mean, not at all.

Yes, young Wildstein was into sabermetrics before it was cool, sitting on the bench and providing the Lancers with data that helped make them one of the best teams in the state. The classic loyal geek. And decades later, he was still doing what he could behind the scenes to help the big man on campus, Chris Christie. Except it was again in Christie’s interest to look right past him. “Didn't travel in the same circles.” "Not even acquaintances." "Passed in the wallways." Nice knowing you, kid. Or not knowing you.

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 9:24:43 PM   
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The former Port Authority official who personally oversaw the lane closings on the George Washington Bridge ... said on Friday that the governor knew about the lane closings when they were happening, and that he had the evidence to prove it.

Evidence? Bring it. Then Bye Bye Christie.




Well,about two weeks after the "Traffic Safety Study",Christie...........and about two weeks before his two hour apologia`novela,

he mocked a reporter for asking about the lane closers.I think they knew they had fucked up and hoped to get past the story without it catching fire.

At that news conference, shortly after winning a 2nd term btw,he 1st joked that yeah,"he was there himself putting out the cones","he had overalls on, I was that guy"....hoping to get a laugh......then his fake smile turn to distain when he mockingly asked the reporter "if she was serious" with the question....making her the bad gal.

The very 1st official denial was a written statement that I say read on the Daily Show.

This is just after the shit hit the fan.

What stuck me most about the release was how in the very 1st sentence, before anything else was said ,there was Christie SWEARING that he really didn`t know about the closers, for realz ya`ll that is, till just two days prior to the my-staff-fucked-they-did-it-I-didn`t-fuck-them press conference.




The came the two hour marathon sorry-fest, where he "took responsibility" by blaming everyone but himself and again swearing he didn`t know till two days prior......more than a month after the political retaliation/dick-punch.But at the end of the two hour lie-fest,Christie laughingly mentions the "Traffic Safety Study" and that "they still may hear from it"....





They aid who`s pulled Christie`s testacals over top the anvil is a long time buddy from Livingston HS football who Christie appointed to the $150,000.00 a year Port Authority post.Christie is so throwing him under the bus that he`s saying he hardly knows the guy.....


He`s the guy who did it and he says Christie knew.....


"Chris Christie knew about GWB lane closures, ex-loyalist David Wildstein says"


http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/chris-christie-knew-about-gwb-lane-closures-ex-loyalist-david-wildstein-says-1.6920465


A couple more months tops and he`s out. Funny,that clown won here on an anti-corruption message after putting a dozen NJ mayors in jail.....




I had on a news station during the novella and thought oh my god will this guy every shut up! Oy talk about long winded.

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/4/2014 10:12:05 PM   
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You're so kind, Rich!




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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/5/2014 3:32:38 AM   
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The former Port Authority official who personally oversaw the lane closings on the George Washington Bridge ... said on Friday that the governor knew about the lane closings when they were happening, and that he had the evidence to prove it.




As best as I can tell, 300 million people in the U.S. knew about the lane closures. Most of Canada knew about the lane closures.

Last week, I knew the SeaHawks had just won....I didn't pass any of the touch downs.

A month ago, I knew someone killed a guy with a knife in a bar in downtown Seattle. I didn't kill the guy.

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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/5/2014 3:53:28 AM   
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Last week, I knew the SeaHawks had just won....I didn't pass any of the touch downs.



But, did you approve of them winning? Did you order your underlings to make sure they won? When did you know they had won? When you realized they were winning, did you take any steps to prevent it or *gasp* help them to victory? We want answers, damn it!

You have the right to remain ...





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RE: Christie Knew About Lane Closings???? - 2/5/2014 8:34:38 AM   
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The former Port Authority official who personally oversaw the lane closings on the George Washington Bridge ... said on Friday that the governor knew about the lane closings when they were happening, and that he had the evidence to prove it.




As best as I can tell, 300 million people in the U.S. knew about the lane closures. Most of Canada knew about the lane closures.

Last week, I knew the SeaHawks had just won....I didn't pass any of the touch downs.

A month ago, I knew someone killed a guy with a knife in a bar in downtown Seattle. I didn't kill the guy.



Actually no.....no one the public knew about the closures or the phony "Traffic Satiety Study", that Christie still says is forthcoming...

Not even the PO police nor PO emergency officials, knew about the political attack/pay-back...

Oddly enough, it was the traffic reporter at the Burgan Co Record ,a local rag who on Friday of the week,the day after the bogus traffic safety study was pulled,who reported about the strangely heavy week of traffic jams at the bridge and at all the surrounding streets/roads.

This dogged intrepid traffic reporter,, kept asking the PO about the extraordinary ,3 and 4 hour tie-ups....when finally, a PO official gave him the "traffic safety study" scam-line......that he then reported in the local news-paper.

It was that "announcement" by the PO(a Christie-crony),published in the newspaper that tipped off the entire lower echelon of bridge officials, like the fire chief, the police chief, the EMTs,etc...the commander who`re actually on the ground there......that something wasn`t right.

Right away they all knew something was FUBAR because they would have HAD to be notified about the so called "traffic safety study".......

And as it was unfolding into a four day long dick-punch......NONE of these commanders , who`re supposed to have direct lines of communication to the gov.s office, could get through to the governor or any of his aids. Wildstein,who started the attack,did`nt help either.

About two weeks AFTER the attack, Christie was asked about the week long traffic jams by a reporter, where he belittles the reporter for asking the question (ASS!!) and attempts some humor by saying "yeah,I was there putting out the cones...

So we know, HE knew, about the closings at that time but not the general public......yet... It`s clear that they(Christie/crew)are in damage control mode by that point and were readying their BS stories ,which Christie has since changed.

Christie was extremely emphatic and made sure to say in the very 1st sentence of the very 1st public statement on Bridgegate,that he never knew, ever, about the closings until weeks later...when we found out....now he says...he might have known all along"

It wasn`t until another additional two more weeks had passed(more than a month) that the governor had his "I`m sorry-they did it" two hour press conference. and we all learned of it.





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